Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 9 of 12 1 2 7 8 9 10 11 12
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 18,204
C
CHSDawg Offline OP
~
Legend
OP Offline
~
Legend
C
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 18,204
Poll up. Running until tomorrow morningish at latest. Get those picks in!

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,447
P
Dawg Talker
Offline
Dawg Talker
P
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,447
I can't believe there's no love for malik lol. I got shot down for saying 3T wasn't a huge need and now one of my top 15 prospects is sitting at 33 and no one's going crazy

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,806
Hall of Famer
Online
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,806
Not nominating anyone. Just throwing out a couple names of players who are available and will likely go in this range. The tough part of these kind of drafts is keeping track of who is available and who has been taken.

TJ Watt
Charles Harris
Jordon Willis
Caleb Brantley
Sydney Jones


Am I perfect? No
Am I trying to be a better person?
Also no
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 7,059
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 7,059
Originally Posted By: Jester
Not nominating anyone. Just throwing out a couple names of players who are available and will likely go in this range. The tough part of these kind of drafts is keeping track of who is available and who has been taken.

TJ Watt
Charles Harris
Jordon Willis
Caleb Brantley
Sydney Jones


I nominate Caleb Brantley. Surprised that he is still available...


When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers...Socrates
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,341
D
Dawg Talker
Offline
Dawg Talker
D
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,341
Taco Charlton is also still there...

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,341
P
Legend
Offline
Legend
P
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,341
This draft is as rich with defensive talent from every position as I have ever seen and with all our picks I hope we take advantage of it ... JMHO cool


John 3:16 Jesus said "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,440
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,440
I'm all for loading up on DBs


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,447
P
Dawg Talker
Offline
Dawg Talker
P
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,447
Question CHS as we have so many picks what do you guys think about a trade up? We have 2 late 2nds, extra picks later and I'm not certain the safety we need will be there(the poll looks like we are going cb now at 33).

Last edited by predator16; 04/04/17 03:07 PM.
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,654
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,654
White.



Last edited by ChargerDawg; 04/04/17 03:31 PM.

Welcome back, Joe, we missed you!
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,341
D
Dawg Talker
Offline
Dawg Talker
D
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,341
I think at safety, from the options left we have:

Melifonwu
King
Williams
Maye

I like the first 3 over Maye. However looking at other players still available:

DT Brantley, Adams, McDowell
OL Feeney - I know we invested in free agency but he's going to be good
OL Dawkins - we've shown interest
WR Jones, Kupp, Schuster
LB Watt, Jarrad Davis
CB Quincy Wilson, Awuzie, Tabor and Sidney Jones

That's just off the top of my head. Lots of talent left. Take BPA.

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
E
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
E
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
White- I feel like he could come in a start and provide some of that LSU swagger/attitude to go along w/ Gregg Williams tone

Brantley- Not sure if reaching here but I would really want to add a 3-tech to round out the front 7

Williams- Center field FS that imo is flying under the radar

Obi- long defender with speed that can cover RBs, WRs & TE, doesn't hit with the pop I like but doesn't miss a bunch of tackles either
for me though its his ability to cover different positions that is his calling card

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,440
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,440
tabor might be an option too


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
E
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
E
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
My other thought is truly if you would have asked me three weeks ago I would say the most talented player left is clearly Malik McDowell.

We're not privy to what actually happened at the combine and how is interviews went but the rumors and the talk suggests that does something off the field with him.

I have no idea if that's correct or not could be a hundred percent true could be or could be 100% false.

So being that we don't know or I don't know at least I'm not going to hold that against him and go with what I see on film and based on that film McDowell to me is the highest rated player on the board.

But the next question is scheme fit his profile is that of the Prototype five technique. But comma I've always thought that if you are a good coordinator then you find a place in your defense for a good player. So I've been bouncing around in my mind different ways that you could use McDowell with in a 4-3 and different things that Greg Williams has done as far as playing a bigger base defensive end and using a player like Myles Garrett or old but as a pass-rushing outside linebacker. But then I just realized that I don't have to figure it out I just have to provide the player as a GM.

Sorry for the stream-of-consciousness Rambo I'm using voice to text

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
E
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
E
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
Oh also do we mirror real transaction?

nfl.com:

Philadelphia has acquired defensive tackle Timmy Jernigan and the No. 99 overall pick in the 2017 NFL Draft from Baltimore in exchange for the draft's No. 74 overall selection, the two teams announced Tuesday.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,440
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,440
i woulda traded for jernigan


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Guys I had a typo in my trade information. The pick Miami sent to the Jets in he talks third round was 104 (acquire some from KC in my first trade down), not 107. The Jets already owned 107. THe Jets should be in possession of both 104 and 107.

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 18,204
C
CHSDawg Offline OP
~
Legend
OP Offline
~
Legend
C
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 18,204
Sorry. Too late to fix it.

Second Round is on the way.

The Vikings are looking to move up.

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 7,059
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 7,059
The Bears have selected Marcus Williams, FS Utah with the 36th pick. He was a targeted player before the draft commenced. Admittedly a "need" pick but also very close to BPA. TJ Watt was also seriously considered for this pick...


When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers...Socrates
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 12,065
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 12,065
I also considered Watt. But went with Taco.

Because everyone loves tacos.


Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,341
D
Dawg Talker
Offline
Dawg Talker
D
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,341
Originally Posted By: clevesteve
Guys I had a typo in my trade information. The pick Miami sent to the Jets in he talks third round was 104 (acquire some from KC in my first trade down), not 107. The Jets already owned 107. THe Jets should be in possession of both 104 and 107.


I assume this can be sorted? Not sure if the reply immediately after was to this or not smile

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
With the 34th pick in the 2017 Dawgtalkers Mock Draft,

The Miami Dolphins select Malik McDowell, Defensive Tackle, Michigan State



The Dolphins were abysmal against the run last year and are looking to get better up front. Early in the season, McDowell showed the ability to penetrate and stop the run. Pro Football Focus credited him with 11 run stops in his first four games this season, to go along with 18 pressures in that same span. Questions about his effort and attitude have resulted in this fall, but the potential is there.

Originally Posted By: OrlandoSentinel
We have to do things to make sure Suh isn’t doubled the entire game,” Gase said, referring to Suh taking on two blockers. “Whoever is playing opposite him, he has to make plays.

Defensive tackle is one the thinnest positions in next month’s draft, so if the Dolphins plan to find a player who can come in and help immediately they might be forced to use an early pick on a top-shelf talent like Michigan State’s Malik McDowell...


Originally Posted By: MiamiHerald
The Dolphins didn’t add a defensive tackle in free agency.
But they do have keen interest in adding one in the draft — perhaps in the very first round.
In fact, they think highly enough of Michigan State’s Malik McDowell that defensive line coach Terrell Williamstraveled to East Lansing, Michigan, on Tuesday for a private workout.

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
With the 37th pick in the 2017 Dawgtalkers Mock Draft,

The Los Angeles Rams select Antonio Garcia, Offensive Line, Troy



The Rams have been unable to field a decent offensive line for more than a decade, but it hasn't been for lack of trying. Once again, they've committed significant resources to the OL, signing 34 year old Andrew Whitworth to a three year deal worth eight figures annually. Here, they add Garcia, the small school left tackle out of Troy.

In one game, a dominant performance against a ferocious Clemson defense, Antonio Garcia proved he had the skills to play with the big boys, displaying true left tackle feet and a sturdy base. The Rams envision their draftee as a left guard year one, then swapping places with the aging Whitworth once he shows signs of slowing down.

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Originally Posted By: drobs
Originally Posted By: clevesteve
Guys I had a typo in my trade information. The pick Miami sent to the Jets in he talks third round was 104 (acquire some from KC in my first trade down), not 107. The Jets already owned 107. THe Jets should be in possession of both 104 and 107.


I assume this can be sorted? Not sure if the reply immediately after was to this or not smile


This is an easy fix... just change the owner on the google sheet of pick 104 from Miami to the Jets. Everything else is correct.

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
E
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
E
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
Originally Posted By: bbrowns32
The Bears have selected Marcus Williams, FS Utah with the 36th pick. He was a targeted player before the draft commenced. Admittedly a "need" pick but also very close to BPA. TJ Watt was also seriously considered for this pick...
Solid pick. One of the best S in the draft imo.

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
E
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
E
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
Originally Posted By: edromeo
Oh also do we mirror real transaction?

nfl.com:

Philadelphia has acquired defensive tackle Timmy Jernigan and the No. 99 overall pick in the 2017 NFL Draft from Baltimore in exchange for the draft's No. 74 overall selection, the two teams announced Tuesday.
Any comment?

What say the mob?

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 18,204
C
CHSDawg Offline OP
~
Legend
OP Offline
~
Legend
C
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 18,204
This going through. I just haven't updated the spreadsheet yet. Real life trades should mirror this to the best of our ability.

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 7,059
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 7,059
Originally Posted By: edromeo
Originally Posted By: bbrowns32
The Bears have selected Marcus Williams, FS Utah with the 36th pick. He was a targeted player before the draft commenced. Admittedly a "need" pick but also very close to BPA. TJ Watt was also seriously considered for this pick...
Solid pick. One of the best S in the draft imo.


Adams, SS in the 1st and Williams, FS in the 2nd along with 2 CB's signed in FA, has hopefully addressed the Bears porous secondary from 2016...


When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers...Socrates
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,440
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,440
wow, yeah that's a big commitment to the secondary


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 7,059
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 7,059
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
wow, yeah that's a big commitment to the secondary


When you've got Aaron Rodgers in your division. Need to upgrade the pass rush (not too bad currently), but can't fix everything in one go...


When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers...Socrates
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,558
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,558
Is this the new trend - 3 safties on the field at the same time?

New Orleans now has SS Vaccaro, FS Bell, and FS Baker and now Chicago has S Amos, SS Adams, and FS Williams plus S Quinton Demps and 2 guys they drafted last year.


#gmstrong

Live, Love, Laugh
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,440
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,440
good point


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,341
D
Dawg Talker
Offline
Dawg Talker
D
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,341
Can someone update the sheet to reflect the Jets own 104 please? Thanks!

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
drobs, if it doesn't get updated soon I'll re-trade it to you for an authentic game-worn Geno Smith jersey.

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 7,059
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 7,059
Originally Posted By: dawg66
Is this the new trend - 3 safties on the field at the same time?

New Orleans now has SS Vaccaro, FS Bell, and FS Baker and now Chicago has S Amos, SS Adams, and FS Williams plus S Quinton Demps and 2 guys they drafted last year.


(Actually they drafted 3 DB's last year, but 3rd day picks with limited potential). Demps is a keeper but a major upgrade in talent was required thus the acquisition of FA CB's Cooper and Amukamara and the drafting of 2 Safeties. The Bears should have a stout secondary...


When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers...Socrates
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Miami has their pick ready pending responses from two trades solicited by other teams.

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
E
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
E
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
I don't know if its new.

Redskins used to do this back when they had Blache/Gregg Williams.

They used a "big nickel" package of 3 Safeties and called it Cobra. I know the Giants used it sometimes also. This was around 2012.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,440
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,440
I envision Jabril Peppers in that spot


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 816
B
All Pro
Offline
All Pro
B
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 816

The bengals selected Joe Mixon, not because they are the bungles (which they are poke ), rather because several of their fans have told me they want him and that marvin is big on taking guys like this and helping them, i.e. burfict and pacman. I think he fits right in and is a top talent rb. This also spells the end of Jeremy Hill.


Statistics are like a bikini; what they show is interesting, but what they hide is vital.
Drive for show (1st round), Putt for dough (rest of draft).
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,558
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,558
Originally Posted By: bbrowns32
Originally Posted By: dawg66
Is this the new trend - 3 safties on the field at the same time?

New Orleans now has SS Vaccaro, FS Bell, and FS Baker and now Chicago has S Amos, SS Adams, and FS Williams plus S Quinton Demps and 2 guys they drafted last year.


(Actually they drafted 3 DB's last year, but 3rd day picks with limited potential). Demps is a keeper but a major upgrade in talent was required thus the acquisition of FA CB's Cooper and Amukamara and the drafting of 2 Safeties. The Bears should have a stout secondary...


I was just talking about the Safties. They drafted Deon Bush in the 4th rnd and DeAndre Houston-Carson in the 6th rnd last year to go along with the recently signed Demps and Adrian Amos their 5th rnd pick from 2015 who has developed into a real good player.


#gmstrong

Live, Love, Laugh
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,101
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,101
In case he is still on the board, and with back-to-back picks coming up, I would again like to nominate Obi-wu (Kenobi smile ). (I really like the kid)


1. #GMstrong
2. "I'm just trying to be the best Nick I can be." ~ Nick Chubb
3. Forgive me Elf, I didn’t have faith. ~ Tulsa
4. ClemenZa #1
Page 9 of 12 1 2 7 8 9 10 11 12
DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2017 NFL Season 2017 NFL Draft Board Mock Draft?

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5