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Here are Myles Garrett's measurables compared to every other edge rusher in combine since 1999:

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/myles-garrett?position=EDGE

His Draft Breakdown page:

http://draftbreakdown.com/players/myles-garrett/

Voch Lombardi's Film Breakdown (prior to the 2016 season):



A link to a video of Myles Garrett doing dinosaur trivia:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000000790375/Myles-Garrett-plays-dinosaur-trivia

And his top five dinosaurs:

http://www.myaggienation.com/aggie_sport...d802503df2.html

K.

Garrett is a complete physical freak but I don't think he's absent bust potential. Don't get me wrong... He's the first overall pick- no ifs, ands, or buts. And I'll be happy to see him in brown and orange

BUT if someone gave us a sweet package to move down a hair (still top 10) I think I'd take it.

Here's what McFarland said about Garrett during the show, via The Big Lead:

“I haven’t always seen the athleticism turn into playmaking ability on the football field, nor have I seen the physicality. To me, that’s the one question I have. So, in a day and age where we’re all watching the Combine saying, ‘Hey there he is, he’s the number 1 pick, best player ever,’ I’m just a little hesitant. And I always take a step back — because I’ve seen the guy play football — he is a tremendous athlete.

“But being an athlete doesn’t make you a football player. Ask Mike Mamula, who tore up the Combine but couldn’t break an egg in the NFL. I’m not saying Myles Garrett is gonna do that, but I just look at the tape — and the tape never lies, Greeny — and the tape has said that although he is a tremendous athlete, I just wonder how much does he love playing defensive line and being hit and the collisions that take place time after time. The tape says he’s been hesitant to do that over the last couple years.”

http://tamu.247sports.com/Bolt/Myles-Garrett-refuses-ESPN-interview-with-Booger-McFarland-52239580

The bolded parts .... thats what i see also ... u see a physical freak with mad ass skills ... and on some plays your like ... HOLY CRAP I can't believe what i just saw ... then the next 5 plays I'd wonder what the hell he was doing ... it was like he wanted to play patty cake with the OLman as opposed to going around him or moving him ... the way he engaged his blockers on a lot of plays was eerily similiar to one Courtney Brown ...

He's going to be a Brown .. so i hope what I'm seeing is a mirage ... if not, he's going to be good .. just not the difference maker most think ...

I wonder if he is going to be like clowney.... Clowney was similar to that his last year at South Carolina... And then his first years at Houston he had issues with injuries... But this year has taken off...

I think Garrett has the tools to be a great edge rusher... But he needs the right situation with some good leadership.... Not sure if we have it but worth taking a shot...

Clowney was lazy, faked injuries, took himself out of games, didn't practice, dogged it his last year, had issues in the classroom, etc.

Garrett is none of those things.

It kills me that Garrett gets more grief than Mixon. LOL.....only on this board.

It looks like he won't be a problem off the field. Seems to be a good kid with sound judgment.

If he busts, no one can blame us for drafting MG.

This thread is more of a get to know him because he is as good as a Brown.

My only concern with Garrett is his maturity. Not lack of maturity but the fact that he acts, talks and even looks like a guy thats 40 not 21. I wanta see a birth certificate before draft day lol

He fricken better be.

Like.

Seriously.

We could trade back 1 spot and get 2 extra 1sts.

I'd still be pissed.

I can live with a big kid that likes dinosaurs and classic rock, and has seen others talented fail.

I have a different opinion about party animals and woman beaters.

The foundation for Garrett is far more solid.

It's hard to fault the guys who have great motors and easy to seethe POTENTIAL for a bust with the ones who don't have that type of motor. I'll take a guy with less athletic ability but who love the game and don't know how to stop over an athletic freak who's desire and motor are questioned. I liked Allen at 1 for awhile then the shoulders became an issue. Now I think you almost have to go with Garrett, just don't see anyone pushing him for the #1 overall pick.

Consistency is all I ask for from Garrett if we draft him. I think some of you expect one player to make a play every down. Just not realistic, especially in the NFL.

with the #1 pick, I expect Garrett to eventually be a top 5 rusher in the NFL. The likes of Miller, Freeney or Ware in their heyday, etc

This is sorta the year having the #1 overall when a De is considered the best player is a crappy position to be in.

I'd really like to see the Browns trade out of #1 and move down 3-4 spots, maybe pick up an additional pick or two. This draft is deep on defense, and Hooker just screams "Ed Reed" to me. I think Hooker makes a far bigger impact on the Browns, even long term...he is a Reed ballhawking kinda safety and the NFL being a pass happy league a guy like him is simply going to be a big time playmaker...he will be the best safety we have had since Eric Turner.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...d-reed-shocking

The Browns need value right now, and honestly, moving down makes the most sense for us if we can from straight value perspective...Garret isn't going to really change the W or L column. We will still be able to get a big time player at 3 or 4, but gain additional picks in a draft deep at Rb and defense simply sounds like a win-win to me.

WHAT???

Your Trubisky man crush is starting to be ridiculous, unless you are from his family or agent.

None of this crap w/ Garrett going on this week sways me. I say get him.

HOWEVER, if we traded down and somehow still got Adams, Hooker, and whatever else, I would be just as happy. But what are the odds of pulling that off?

We are without any shadow of doubt the worst franchise drafting, so for anyone to trade with us its because they know better than us.

Say no to Trades

That's ridiculous. We are SO LUCKY to have the #1 pick this year. An edge rusher like Garrett doesn't come out every year or even every other year. Last year we had 26 sacks as a team, tied for second-fewest and only one more than last place Oakland who had 25. We gave up the most passign touchdowns (36) in the league and had few (10) interceptions. Garrett is what this team needs as much as anything that's not a quarterback.

#1 - You are holding the sins of past front offices (and coaching staffs) against the current front office.

#2 - The trades were good, the picks were bad.

That's ridiculous. We are SO LUCKY to have the #1 pick this year. An edge rusher like Garrett doesn't come out every year or even every other year. Last year we had 26 sacks as a team, tied for second-fewest and only one more than last place Oakland who had 25. We gave up the most passign touchdowns (36) in the league and had few (10) interceptions. Garrett is what this team needs as much as anything that's not a quarterback.



Agree, Steve this is one of if not the strongest draft classes I have seen period. there will be players going in the 3rd this year that would have been top 20 last year. We get the best of the best.

Myles Garrett - DL - Player

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Cleveland "has not made up its mind" with the No. 1 overall pick, and some Browns executives like Myles Garrett while others prefer Mitchell Trubisky.
Additionally, Schefter had an NFL executive text him to "not be surprised" if Texas A&M's Garrett is not selected with the top pick. Garrett has been the overwhelming favorite to be the first player off the board to the Browns for months now, but Trubisky appears to be picking up steam. Cleveland obviously is desperate for a quarterback, but it would be hard to see them passing on Garrett.

Related: Browns
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter Apr 11 - 9:36 PM

probably just driving up the value of #1. I don't buy it, but we're doing our due diligence.

if we'd draft anyone else at #1 we'd be destroyed

I'm gonna get flack for this but what exactly makes Garrett a "generational player"? He is a superb athlete(with some question marks, he's not without faults or concerns), he has good but not stellar production, he doesn't have any off-field issues, but other then being such an exceptional athlete I don't see him as a Lawrence Taylor or Bruce smith type of talent. I just don't see the same dominance or impact plays that those guys showed almost every time they stepped onto the field. I see a very good athlete who has to be more consistent and show some more fire on the field. So please tell me what it is i'm missing in his tape.

I think to really get a grip on Garrett you can't just watch his games. You have to watch the teams that faced him in other games to get a sense of how much they adjust what they do to account for him.

I think Garrett is the best prospect in the draft. I don't think that there is a box that he doesn't check as far as can he do it.

I'll admit I do have a nagging thought of could this be a Vernon Gholston situation, but I think that's mainly a result of being a Browns fan. I somewhat expect things to go badly no matter what they do.

I see the reasons some people question his motor, but I'm not sure it's really a good argument. With the increased use of the hurry up, should 270+ lb. Linemen be chasing skill players 20+ yards across the field play after play? Can you explode at the snap and disrupt plays if you are constantly winded? Where does he make his money? You pick Garrett to make plays at or behind the line of scrimmage.

Sure a guy can run all over the place and look really active. If that causes what you are counting on him for to suffer, though, is it really productive?

I think the big saying in New England is "Do your job." What Garrett does, he does well. It's not really his job to run and chase down the field. His job is to affect the QB, disrupt plays in the backfield, and keep guys from getting to the outside on his side of the field.

a little levity...

http://sportspickle.com/nfl/browns-myles-garrett-football-iq.html



Browns worried about Myles Garrett’s football IQ after he expresses desire to play for them




(SP) – The Cleveland Browns say they are continuing to look at various options with the No. 1 overall pick and admit they have cooled a bit on Myles Garrett after the Texas A&M defensive end expressed a strong desire to play for the team.

“Obviously Myles is an impressive player with a lot of upside,” said Browns general manager Sashi Brown. “That said, football I.Q. is a big part of what we evaluate in a player and we are growing concerned it’s just not there for him.”

Garrett repeatedly proclaimed this week that he would “punish” the Browns if they don’t use the top pick on him, telling ESPN: “I’m gonna start winning and winning now. And because if you don’t draft me No. 1, I will punish your team for the next 10 to 12 years. I’ll knock your QB out of the game every time we play you, and I’ll have to kick the hell out of No. 1, whoever it is.”

Cleveland’s GM said that he “appreciates” Garrett’s enthusiasm, “but that’s just not realistic for him to say. Best case scenario with the Browns, we win in three or four years, not now. And the idea that he will punish us if we don’t draft him? Laughable. We’re the Browns. We ruin the careers of people we do draft. Come on.”

With Garrett likely off the board, the Browns are set to move onto someone a bit more grounded in reality.

“We want a good player, but we need someone with some knowledge of how the NFL works,” said Brown. “I just don’t think Myles Garrett is mentally able to deal with a few 3-13 seasons. Our model player is Joe Thomas: productive on the field, but can handle crushing and sustained disappointment. Getting players like that is the only chance we have of turning this franchise around.”

Yeah, I heard this on Mike and Mike this morning. Uggh. Either Schefty is desperate for some click-bait late in the draft process, or Haslam has been bringing in more bums as draft consultants.

j/c
I think it's silly season, and if the Team put anything out there then it's pure smoke. I think we know were taking Garrett. But the NFL, has a habit of coming down on the Teams that hold the #1 pick and tells them they have to keep the draft exciting and if they come out and say who they are drafting then it ruins it for everybody.
I really think that's the only reason we have not declared Garrett. We don't want to fight the NFL.

It' a joke website. Kinda like 'The Onion'.

I heard the rumor this morning that they're considering Trubisky at #1. If they do that, you can add it to the list of draft mistakes the Browns made. Hopefully this is just talk to muddy the waters or force a trade offer. Unless the offer includes a high #1 pick this year, and a #1 next year, I'm not interested. And I'm barely interested in that. Experience says, take Garrett and move on. If Trub's not there at #12, take BPA and figure out a way to get Mahomes.

JMHO

That's a very good reply, good read, and I understand your and many others take on Garrett. I don't see it that way myself but I did enjoy reading your post. I just don't see the "generational" player others see. I just kinda see an exceptional athlete who has gotten by on that alone and doesn't show me enough for me to think he can provide the impact IMO that a generational player would provide. AKA Bruce Smith or Lawrence Taylor. I see a guy who with his athletic ability and motivation, assuming it gets at least a bit better, a 8-10 sack a year guy. Very good production but I just can't call him a once in a generation player. But it's just my own opinion on him. Been wrong before and may be wrong now. Thanks for the reply.

Came across this earlier:



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I disagree Trubisky is most certainly worth the 1st overall pick and he will be a good QB in this league. Most importantly he is a football player, he LOVES football and he loves OHIO. NO ONE will work harder to win here then Mitchell.

If you don't have a QB you don't have a team. You cna't win without one. IMO i'd take Trubisky over Wentz and folks were mad we didn't take Wentz.

Again the only DE taken #1 overall that has had a career worth that selection was Bruce Smith back in 1985...the odds are not in Garretts favor of having that kinda career...not saying he wont, just saying odds don't favor it.

At this point, im ok with them taking either Trub or Garret. I'd prefer Trub, but i guess i could live with Garret....

this talk of Trubisky not being worth a top 5 pick is nonsense...the kid is a winner, and many will never see him coming...just like no one saw Tom Brady coming either...except Bellichik....

// .just like no one saw Tom Brady coming either...except Bellichik ..

Yep ,thats why Bily boy drafted him in the first round !