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I want to thank the Cleveland Browns for giving me my opportunity and looking forward to seeing the change. Time for the next step.

https://twitter.com/garybarnidge/status/858014858486444032


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Dang, was hoping to see Njoku and Barnidge both. The youth movement continues...

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i'm surprised by this. he probably requested it


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I was afraid that could happen. I don't like it, but I get it. I thought we might trade him. Disappointing.

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Uhh.....damn I really thought we was gonna see some nasty two TE sets.


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I want to thank the Cleveland Browns for giving me my opportunity and looking forward to seeing the change. Time for the next step.

https://twitter.com/garybarnidge/status/858014858486444032


Wait, what?

Didn't see this coming. Like others have said, I thought we'd be in the two TE sets often.

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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
i'm surprised by this. he probably requested it


I'm not. Not because of Njoku but because he clearly isn't a top-end TE. He had one good year and some freak catches in 2015 when teams weren't paying attention to him. The minute they did, he was marginalized. Couple in the fact it's only $1.6MM in dead cap with three young TEs on the roster, it seemed somewhat inevitable.

Best of luck, Gary.


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That sucks for Gary. Seems like he was welcoming the kid with open arms. thumbsdown


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I was worried he would be a preseason cut. Still sad to see him go, but I'm sure he's happier to be released now than later. Maybe we got something for him though?


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he was a one hit wonder. good that they cut bait now if he isn't in the plans. I like Seth better than gary at this point.

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This one hurts. Barnidge is a great guy and performed pretty well last year.

My only guess is that they don't want to take first team reps away from DeValve and Njoku in practice.

Crap.

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I would also like to say that Barnidge will be 32 in September and we save $2,187,500 in cutting him.

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Originally Posted By: clevesteve
why.


Is this proof the Browns are totally opposed to ever getting better.

(nullifies the Njouku pick)

Barnidge is head and shoulders, and then some better than Seth DeValve.

in other news...

You know what the Steelers did, (besides making the playoffs perennially)...

The Steelers sid NOT release Ryan Shazier 12 hours after drafting T.J. Watt.

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I would also like to say that Barnidge will be 32 in September and we save $2,187,500 in cutting him.


This.

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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
Originally Posted By: clevesteve
why.


Is this proof the Browns are totally opposed to ever getting better.

(nullifies the Njouku pick)

Barnidge is head and shoulders, and then some better than Seth DeValve.

in other news...

You know what the Steelers did, (besides making the playoffs perennially)...

The Steelers sid NOT release Ryan Shazier 12 hours after drafting T.J. Watt.



That entire post is a joke, right?

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I said in the off season how the Browns needed to upgrade the TE position and most said TE was a not a position of need
I knew Barnidge was never going to peak after a productive
2015 season
He hit his ceiling.
He basically got his yards because the Browns had really no one to go in the offense

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Is the 2,187,000 a start to budget for the fact Osweiler might hang around since they whiffed on a QB last night?
I don't know.
What I know is, this isn't a calander day when players usually have to be cut.
So something must have changed since last night!

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This is almost as bad as trading Trent Richardson!

Oh, wait...... Never mind.


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Originally Posted By: WSU Willie
Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
Originally Posted By: clevesteve
why.


Is this proof the Browns are totally opposed to ever getting better.

(nullifies the Njouku pick)

Barnidge is head and shoulders, and then some better than Seth DeValve.

in other news...

You know what the Steelers did, (besides making the playoffs perennially)...

The Steelers sid NOT release Ryan Shazier 12 hours after drafting T.J. Watt.



That entire post is a joke, right?

You do realize another long time player in a Browns uniform just went bye bye, without explanation, on a team with very few long time returning players, and he was arguably in the top 3-5 skill position offensive players on your team, Veteran Player,

And with the draft/aquisiton of one at his position,
HE is gone!

Show me the Joke! No it was not a joke.

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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
Originally Posted By: clevesteve
why.


Is this proof the Browns are totally opposed to ever getting better.

(nullifies the Njouku pick)

Barnidge is head and shoulders, and then some better than Seth DeValve.

in other news...

You know what the Steelers did, (besides making the playoffs perennially)...

The Steelers sid NOT release Ryan Shazier 12 hours after drafting T.J. Watt.



That entire post is a joke, right?

You do realize another long time player in a Browns uniform just went bye bye, without explanation, on a team with very few long time returning players, and he was arguably in the top 3-5 skill position offensive players on your team, Veteran Player,

And with the draft/aquisiton of one at his position,
HE is gone!

Show me the Joke! No it was not a joke.


The Cleveland Browns, where a guy who has been on the team for four seasons is a long time player.

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Why anyone is surprised that we swapped out one of our oldest players is beyond me.

We are getting younger, so we can grow. A 32 year old TE doesn't grow. We now have a total of 4 players who are older then 28; Colquitt, Thomas, Greco, and Des Bryant. Bryant could be on his way out, especially if we draft another DL. Greco could be on his way our, with us having signed his replacement in Zeitler. A 32 year old P isn't a huge concern, and Joe Thomas is Joe Thomas.

Heck, we have only 4 guys who are 28. (Britt, Demario Davis, Haden, and Carder) I would be stunned if Carder is still on the team come opening day. I dunno about Davis either.

Times are a-changin' if you are an older player on the Cleveland Browns.


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Sorry...can't get behind this move. Njoku, for all his potential, is still an unproven asset. We've seen very little of DeValve. So we cut a good all around TE?

This angers me.

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Well, I'm surprised because we gave barnidge a decent contract.

And it would've been great to have a pro bowl TE and a guy with just drafted with pro bowl talent on the field together, at least for one season.


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They gave Gary a good contract and he didn't play up to it. Man he killed so many drives last year with the ball bouncing off his chest. Hell there was a few where I don't know if he even got his hands on the ball that bounced off his head or chest. He really was horrible last year.

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I'm surprised.

Character guy. Decent if not great. We might save some $$$ but it's a drop in the ocean compared to where our cap number is.


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I dunno bro.

With just average QB play, he got to the pro bowl.

He's had some trash guys tossing him the rock the last few years. And last year specifically was a tough year for the entire O.

he was actually the last guy I thought about when complaining about our offense. I'm gonna miss him, and he would've helped groom our new TE cause now we lack experience at that position.


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30+ year old players (not named Joe Thomas) on a rebuilding team should not expect longevity.

That's just the facts of NFL life.


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Sorry...can't get behind this move. Njoku, for all his potential, is still an unproven asset. We've seen very little of DeValve. So we cut a good all around TE?

This angers me.


DeValve was already clearly better than Gary, in my opinion. Gary cannot block well anymore, and DeValve is much better as a receiver at this point and getting better.


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Originally Posted By: Mourgrym
They gave Gary a good contract and he didn't play up to it. Man he killed so many drives last year with the ball bouncing off his chest. Hell there was a few where I don't know if he even got his hands on the ball that bounced off his head or chest. He really was horrible last year.


He wasn't the guy he was the year before, that's for sure. Barnidge dropped a lot of balls last year and struggled to get separation. He's 32. His best days are behind him.

It's sad to see cause he's a nice guy, but at least we let him go now and not later. Hopefully he can find himself a new team


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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
Is the 2,187,000 a start to budget for the fact Osweiler might hang around since they whiffed on a QB last night?
I don't know.
What I know is, this isn't a calander day when players usually have to be cut.
So something must have changed since last night!


My guess is one of two things:

1. Barnidge requested it because he is older and it's getting to be a crowded room

2. The FO knows that Barn isn't in their plans for this year, so they are releasing him early so that he has a fair shot at catching on somewhere well before camps begin.



Both are fine and respectable.


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Just stop! You're making too much sense! Do you realize where you're posting right now?


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why.


Is this proof the Browns are totally opposed to ever getting better.That's NOT a joke?

(nullifies the Njouku pick)

Barnidge is head and shoulders, and then some better than Seth DeValve.And slower and older and can no longer block

in other news...

You know what the Steelers did, (besides making the playoffs perennially)...

The Steelers sid NOT release Ryan Shazier 12 hours after drafting T.J. Watt. The joke is that you are comparing apples to oranges



That entire post is a joke, right?

You do realize another long time player in a Browns uniform just went bye bye, without explanation, on a team with very few long time returning players, and he was arguably in the top 3-5 skill position offensive players on your team, Veteran Player,

And with the draft/aquisiton of one at his position,
HE is gone!

Show me the Joke! No it was not a joke.


Peek at the bold and italics above. If not a joke, then it's a simply ridiculous take. I'm disappointed...but the sky is NOT falling here.

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Gary has played behind some good TEs in his day. His age of 32 isn't like he's played every snap and his body has been taking a beating all these years.

But yeah, he's a fragile old man. Glad we cut him before his pacemaker gets put in.

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Barnidge may be done.

This is a deep draft for TEs, and a 31 or 32 year old had a hard enough time finding work in the NFL as it is.


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We could be looking at another TE in the draft or as an UDFA before the weekend is over.


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. The FO knows that Barn isn't in their plans for this year, so they are releasing him early so that he has a fair shot at catching on somewhere well before camps begin.


wonder if the coaching staff knew he wasnt in the plans....


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Thanks Gary You Will Be missed ... God Bless You thumbsup


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. The FO knows that Barn isn't in their plans for this year, so they are releasing him early so that he has a fair shot at catching on somewhere well before camps begin.


wonder if the coaching staff knew he wasnt in the plans....


If this is the option that happened, I would bet that they did.
Despite our local media's regular attempts to paint a picture of discord in Berea between the coaches and the FO, I think that every move like this is a joint decision -- they're smart enough to not do things in a vacuum or "silos".


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. The FO knows that Barn isn't in their plans for this year, so they are releasing him early so that he has a fair shot at catching on somewhere well before camps begin.


wonder if the coaching staff knew he wasnt in the plans....


If this is the option that happened, I would bet that they did.
Despite our local media's regular attempts to paint a picture of discord in Berea between the coaches and the FO, I think that every move like this is a joint decision -- they're smart enough to not do things in a vacuum or "silos".



I completely feel the same way. I mean the reports of the Chicago coach not knowing about the trade/drafting Mitch was like, wow. I think we're not like that.

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