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The Steelers are almost a lock...they own the new Browns
Which is exactly why I'm going to say WE sweep the Steelers.. 
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Ddubia,it isn't a secret that you have had a problem with me posting on here.
So now you decide to play "Dr.Phil" and try to put me under a proverbial microscope and analyze my "true" efforts on here.
See it wasn't good enough for you to merely answer my simple and straightfoward question.
But you felt it was more important to belittle and tear me down instead of sticking to the topic instead.
If you are expecting me to leave DawgTalk,the answer is no,so deal with it and stop whining.
When did you appoint yourself the judge of posters on DawgTalk....
Since in your own mind,that you "know" so much about me,inside and out can you find that "Bengal board" that I supposedely "scamper" back to and tell my "Bengalbuddies" that I got a 2 page reply to a honest question.....
So take all your unparrelled smugness and find that Bengals board I post on so much.
Tell me this Ddubia,if I was sitting beside you in a bar and proposed this same question to you and you didn't know who I was,how would you answer it?
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Tell me this Ddubia,if I was sitting beside you in a bar and proposed this same question to you and you didn't know who I was,how would you answer it?
I know that, that question isn't directed at me but honestly I doubt that we go 2-4 vs. our divisional foes. I mean look:
Can anyone say 100% who our QB is?.....(Never good)
Our offense line is improved on paper but will we see it (Thomas is new and may be a holdout, maybe Steinbach gets hurt)
If Jamal Lewis goes down we could be in trouble.
Our defense line is big but can we stop the run?
Will Quinn start week 1, week 5 next year?
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There are just too many questions the browns have. Besides there could even be a coach change midway through. This year should be more about finding an identity and consistency. If Crennel can put a team on the field that is competitive, doesn't look lost, and finds an identity I in all honesty wouldn't care what the win total was.
I figure 1-5/2-4 is realistic anything other than that is setting yourself up for a long hard fall.
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I have been around a while and have answered some of your questions. I gotta say that if ddubia is calling you a troll I have to believe it. ddubia isn't one to go around calling people out. I will continue to feed you and I hope you remain the poster I have noticed. I do know there are others on this board who are respected even though they are not Browns fans. Maybe you are turning around your MO. Since I am a sucker, you probably aren't. 
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hmmmm Impacta once again starts a thread designed to cause Browns to disagree, while he sits back and laughs at them, yet they just can't figure it out 
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Tell me this Ddubia,if I was sitting beside you in a bar and proposed this same question to you and you didn't know who I was,how would you answer it?
I think he would be smart enough to sniff you out before he answered the question. Maybe that "troll body spray" would give you away.
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What post does not tear Browns' fans apart? Until we start winning it will always be like that.
I think we can sweep the Ravens this year.
Reasons:
1. McGahee (sp) - I am not sure he can do much better in Baltimore than he has done in Buff.
2. I said this last year and was wrong, I dont think Mcnair can play the whole year.. He will be slowing down due to injury.
3. Lewis is still a beast, but losing adalius thomas is big.
4. We played them well last year and that will be a confidence builder for them.
5. Jamal will want blood.
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I think we can sweep all of the AFC North.
I expect it.
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What post does not tear Browns' fans apart? Until we start winning it will always be like that.
Ding, Ding, we have a winner!
I don't even think it will stop once we start winning, no one will ever egree on EVERYTHING the Browns do.
As far as Impact's question, who really cares if he is a troll or not?
That one question seemed like a legit one, so I answered it, if he or anyone else wants to turn it into something else.......I'll just move on to another thread.
As I stated in an earlier post, I don't think we'll sweep any team in the AFC North this year, we are still a yr. or two from serious contention, but I also don't think we have any SB contenders in our division this yr. either. What we have right now are three teams that "could" be playoff teams, but all three have serious questions that need answered.
The 4th team is us, I don't think we even sniff the playoffs this yr., but hey, what do I know?
What I DO know.........is that right now all four teams are undefeated ........and their is a reason we actually play the season instead of just skipping to the playoffs. 
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Tell me this Ddubia,if I was sitting beside you in a bar and proposed this same question to you and you didn't know who I was,how would you answer it?
I'd say, "Dude, what the hell kind of question is that considering our recent past vs. our division?"
Something like that.
You see, other than blowing it off, a question posed as you did yours leaves only two possible responses. Either to come up with this or that AFC North team I think we can sweep, or, to admit that my team has no chance in hell of accomplishing that feat.
Either way it's amusing to a rival fan.
To have made that a legitimate question you could have asked,"What AFC North team do the Browns best match up against?" That question would be valid and could garner some consideraton and discussion. As you've seen, some did approach it that way.
But asking a legitimate question is not in your agenda.
And, as I said in my post, "You may never even see this post because most of the time you don't even come back to your stupid thread", you have made no responses in your own thread except to JulesDawg and myself who were the only ones who called you out as a troll. You've added none of your own input to the topic that you claim is a valid discussion.
You did the same thing here in your "Who are the Browns best to worst tacklers on defense." thread. You start a thread and just sit by never responding with any valid input to it. This is a big part of your M.O.
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So now you decide to play "Dr.Phil" and try to put me under a proverbial microscope and analyze my "true" efforts on here.
It doesn't take a Dr. Phil to discern your "true efforts" on here. Your own history of posting and starting threads stand on their own.
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See it wasn't good enough for you to merely answer my simple and straightfoward question.
It was not a valid straightforward question. I've told you how you could have worded it to be one but that is of no real interest to you.
And personally, I don't care if I do hijack your thread at the risk of getting banned for it. I don't think calling out a troll is against the rules.
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So take all your unparrelled smugness and find that Bengals board I post on so much.
Dude, there's no way in hell I'm going to take the time to dig up posts from a year and a half ago on your various Bengals boards just to prove something to others of which you and I already know to be true.
But I will quote this from your "Official Board" which I checked out a week or so ago and decided not to join, which is the description of the "Jungle Noise" forum which is basically the equivilent of our "Pure Football" forum...
"Bengals Football Discussion for BENGALS FANS ONLY. Visiting team fans please keep your postings in one of our other forums. "
The other forum to discuss football is described as this..."Around the NFL
There is actually football outside Cincinnati? Talk about it here."
So, as I take it, no one is actually allowed to talk Bengals football there except Bengals fans.
On the other hand, we welcome all fans of all teams, even our rivals. But it is in the best interest of all if they refrain from trolling at the risk of being called on it.
Now, with all that being said, I have read posts of yours on here that have contributed to the discussion in a constructive manner. Just not in the threads that you start.
When you start a thread you're not doing it from any real concern or interest in the Browns.
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Do you guys play us at Cleveland or Baltimore first? That will be the barometer for the Browns if they win at home first...JMHO..... 
Well, the Ravens are at Cleveland first but I really think beating the Ravens at home first would be a bigger blow the them than losing at Cleveland first, hell, losing at Cleveland first gives them some motivation to win in Baltimore later.
and it would give us some motivation to beat them again..
Yes HBYT, you are absolutely correct, and that would be a shot of confidence the Browns sorely need. (Beating Pitt and Cincy would help too.)
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What I still have to wonder ddubia is how many of us have know impacta's M.O. for a long time, but how other posters let it fly right over their heads
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Ddubia,is there a rule that says you have to reply to a post you started? No there isn't. See, you think just because I don't reply to my own posts that I'm just sitting back and finding some kind of fun,looking at Browns fans go at it.
NOTHING COULD BE FARTHER FROM THE TRUTH.
Whatever question I post here,I take seriously and I'm intrested in the type of responses I get.I like to read what people think. Theres no jest in my actions.
If you don't like the way I word things,get over it.....what should I do, e-mail you 1st to get your approval?
As far as Bengals boards go, I'm not regristered at the one on the offical site.I'm only signed up at Bengalszone and FootballHuddles(in which I haven't posted in quite some time.)
So there,I saved you the time of searching.
Because I rarely reply to the posts I started,doesn't make me a troll...
BTW,I did reply to a topic I started.....when I asked about the Browns best to worst tacklers on defense, I stated Sean Jones IMO was the Browns best tackler and left it at that.....
If you don't like the questions I propose on here,don't reply. Its that simple.
I don't have appease you,GM,Jules or anybody else here at DawgTalk.....
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.....what should I do, e-mail you 1st to get your approval?
That would be great!
Just shoot me a PM next time.
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"Bengals Football Discussion for BENGALS FANS ONLY. Visiting team fans please keep your postings in one of our other forums. "
Which is exactly why I know longer go to the Bengals board.
I posted something very positive about a guy who has been involved with the Bengals for years after seeing something about him on Inside the NFL.......I said how great it was for the Bengals Org, and its fans to embrace him.
and I got back....that if I continue to post in the "jungle noise:football talk" area that I would be banned from the site....and to keep all future postings to the SMACK-TALK forum.
That was pretty much it for me on there....as you guys know...I do very little smack talking....but evidently since they have so few fans knowledgeable enough to talk "real football" they would rather just funnel everyone into the smack....that they at least can hang with other teams board members....and they should be able to...the have been hearing every SMACK line in the book for the last 17 years.
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Pittsburgh. They are going to struggle this year between going to a spread offense.... This just in, Big Ben is not Peyton Manning.... and switching to a Cover 2. Pittsburgh doesn't have the Cover 2 personell right now. They are going to really struggle this year. IMO.
Reading that i felt sorry for steeler fans.....good thing it past and only lasted 1/2 a second
Took that long? 
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I don't think it is going to be a lock. They have owned us but I feel times may be changing. They have changed coaching staffs and I don't think they have improved that much if at all. No way do I think we can sweep them but pulling out a win at home doesn't seem impossible, or even improbable to me.
Anybody who feels the Steelers are somehow going from a very talented team to struggling because of a new coach are crazy IMO.
Harrison replacing Porter could be an upgrade, also IMO. The Faneca situation is not going to hurt them. He will get a new contract next year, so he will play balls out this year to make sure someone pays him. Him holding out doesn't bode well with many teams, where as , if he has a stellar year, next year he will be certain of a big payday.
All in all the Steelers still have LaBeau, and he still has the same players he's had for a couple years. I honestly think teams are going to pay for taking them lightly.
I think we do have a chance to beat them at home, but it depends on the Oline. They, I mean Labeau, has the Browns number and I believe he will be rallying their defense. If for once we could run the ball on them, something that still won't be easy, even with a good line, we could squeeze out the upset.
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we've only won a single game in the AFCN in the last 2 years, and that was a super tight game at that in week 17 of '05. We aren't sweeping anybody this year. The 'best' longshot would be against the Steelers though, IMO.
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...1st and foremost they have to go 4-2 or better in the divsion.
1st and foremost in your opinion. You state it as though it is a fact. The Browns have to go 4-2 - OR BETTER - in our division. Anyone getting the BS in that statement?
Not really. Let's assume it's going to take 10-6 at least to make the playoffs. (who knows maybe that's BS too  ) Going 4-2 in the division would go a long way in getting there. It's not a must, but it's not a stretch to say it would be hard otherwise.
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And there it is. The Browns go 4-12 in '06, that's 0-6 in the division and 1-11 in the division overall with this regime, and you want to see how many Browns fans you can get to lay claim that they can sweep an AFC North team so you can scamper back to your own board and tell all your BengalsBuddies that you actually got some Browns fans to answer that question.
To what incredible, miracle heights do the Browns have to improve to go 4-2 - OR BETTER - in THIS division?
Anyone who even answers this question is unaware that you are a Bengals fan who, more often than not, poses what appears to be legitimate questions on the surface but has the ultimate ulterior motive just underneath it to be a troll thread to get the fans talking about something rediculous.
"that you actually got some Browns fans to answer that question"
"get the fans talking about something ridiculous"
Why do you say it like that? Why is so hard to believe we could sweep one of our division opponents. I understand the losing makes people bitter. It sucks. But some of us still have hope and faith. Even if it's misplaced and unwarranted. But I don't see any reason we couldn't sweep any of the teams in our division.
Our team's two biggest weaknesses coming into the offseason were OL and stopping the run. We've done some patchwork on the DL, but I don't think it's enough to fix the problem. On OL it's a different story. We went out and got arguably the best free agent in the OL market and we drafted a top prospect. Not to mention addition by subtraction. Andruzzi and Coleman were serviceable and nothing more. If Steinbach just continues his career as he has that would go a long way in helping our line. If Thomas can come in and play at a competitive level from the start that's another piece of the puzzle. Shaffer moving to RT and Tucker playing G or vice versa. Again solid pieces to the puzzle. At C we've got Fraley and what may turn out to be a miracle in a rejuvenated Bentley. Both solid pieces of the puzzle. Then you throw in potential like Sowells and McKinney as depth or even starters. Point is, the line's a lot better than it was in the past.
Our offense, minus 2002, has been horrendous since our return. And a lot of that's been the OL and our lack of ability to sustain drives, score points, and eat up the clock with a lead. When our OL play improves and we start getting some points on the board, a lot of those games we've been losing close (and that's a fair amount of them) are going to turn into victories. So no I don't think us sweeping one of our division opponents is out of the question. I don't think us sweeping two of our division opponents is out of the question. Although that would be highly improbable.
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Mission accomplished. You actually got a lot of serious replies. That was what you were hoping for; serious replies which, to you, translates into "gullible replies".
Why is it gullible? Even if he is a troll. It's a legit question. You think it's out of the question for some reason. I don't see that.
So here's my gullible reply
I think it's the Steelers. They lost a lot and haven't gained much. That D is sorely going to miss Porter. Stellar player and more importantly he boosted team morale with his lively attitude and swagger. Steelers fans can try to play them losing him down, but I'm not buying it. Hard to replace. I do expect Big Ben to step back into form, but I still don't think he's good enough to carry an offense that has lost a step.
The Ravens would be my next choice. And my second team of a two team teaser in a highly improbable bet for us to sweep them. Any takers? I want good odds!  I have no reasoning. We just always seem to play them close.
The Bengals would be the hardest, in my opinion. We just haven't matched up well with them in the past. Hopefully with an improved offense we can keep their playmakers off the field a little longer and our improving defense can do a better job containing the combustion that is the Bengals offense. It's definitely not out of the question. But the most improbable in my eyes.
Who knows though. We've got trolls. And accusers. You name it. All I know is that I think it's a valid topic and I'm interested in discussing it. Troll thread or not. What in the hell else is there to talk about in no man's land of the offseason anyways? I think some of us need to lighten up. 
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j/c: I never really understood this "troll" thing. I don't know if he is a troll or not. LOL.......that sounds so childish. But the fact is I could care less if he is a troll. Why would it bother me if he went back to a Bengal board and made fun of me? Why would it bother me if he sits behind his computer and laughed at me for answering his questions? If he were doing those things, that would be more of an indictment on his character than mine. I also am not buying him getting Brown's fans to turn on each other. We argue about everything.......all the time. Jesus, I can't post in a thread w/out dealing w/multiple attacks on my character. All I know is that Impact treats me in a more civil manner than most Brown's fans do. One more thing.........the whole idea of a troll is moronic. This is a message board. It is not our countries government and we are not being invaded by spies. We are not in danger of giving up our most intimate secrets that will spell our doom. It's a freaking message board! If a person [troll, as you call them] actually gets enjoyment out of upsetting others.......it is he who should be ashamed. Not us. Seriously, you would have to be a dweeb to get off on that. It's like the dweebs who spread internet viruses. What kind of a person would get off on that? Do they sit there and whack their teeny-weeny willies while they screw up other people's computers? Do trolls do the same thing when they go to another team's message board? Guys, they are the ones w/the problems. Btw............I am not saying Impact is a troll and getting his jollies off at our expense. I'm just saying that trolls are the real losers, not those that they irritate.
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Oh......I almost forgot about the thread. I don't think the Browns will sweep any team. The Steelers appear to be the weakest. They've undergone a lot of change and they showed cracks in their armor last year before the changes. However, the Browns are still the least talented and/or experienced team in the division. Oh No! I fed the Troll!  Will the world survive?
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I can't see them sweeping anybody. Just don't have the players this year. Hope we can go 4-2. That would be a real strech. Way too many ? marks.
Can't see OL jelling in the first 3 Games. QB whoever it is will be running
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I can't see them sweeping anybody. Just don't have the players this year. Hope we can go 4-2. That would be a real strech. Way too many ? marks.
Can't see OL jelling in the first 3 Games. QB whoever it is will be running
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Hey Verse, remember this, This board must be one of the best on the web/net or NFL because EVERYONE is over here including myself (Ravens Fan). I like the way you guys do things and I feel as though I have known everyone here since birth except GM (sorry, I wasn't around for the parting of the Red Sea ). I enjoy the people here even when my team is being plastered and I don't care, it's all in fun with the most sacred time of the year, NFL SEASON....
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I don't mind other team fans as long as they want to talk football. I gave an answer early in this thread that we will sweep our division. I still think we will. I wanted to look at this seriously though so here goes. I looked at our schedule last year vs division foes. Here is the run down. Cincy 17-34 lost. Bal 14-15 lost Pit 20-24 lost Cincy 0-30 lost (ggggrrrrr) Pit 7-27 lost Bal 17-27 lost. I think we all agree that we were really hurt (ha ha) last year with injuries. I'd also say for the most part the other AFC north teams weren't. (yeah I know each had some injuries, but nothing like us) I am hoping we will have less injuries this year, and I'd also say we are deeeper than last year anyway. So I see that swinging in our favor. Another piece. Our total time of possesion last year (vs all teams we played) was 29:21 (us) to 30:39 (them.) If we impove here I see our record being much better. So given we have a) better players. b) less injuries  c) better coaching We'll win more. How many more? I have no idea but I always think we'll win every game until we don't. Now lets look at our schedule last year objectively (from me? Ha). Cincy looks very good, and beat us up last year. I say they are tough, and we split maybe. (win baby win!!) Baltimore....I say we sweep them. They were lucky last year. I don't think McNair can hold up. Thier o-line is old, thier D is old. We play better with better players and we sweep. Pit. Tough call here. I think they will be ok. Ben will play much better. LeBaue is still there. Still I say we sweep but hey I'm an idiot. So 5-1 or maybe 6-0.
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Trolls can easily ruin a board if left to do as they normally do. You might find the name childish, however, it does define a group of people who come to a board simply to wreak havoc and not for real discussion. You of all people should understand that, I've seen you complain many times about posts in PF that were "B.S." or not warranted.
Being on this board and the old one, you may have no knowledge of how much these types of people can make a board cease to be enjoyable. Impact has toned down his behavior from the past however, if it would get to the level he used post, he would be dealt with by the moderators.
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