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And hopefully, give the young guys - rookies and second-year players - time to develop.

I have been wondering this as well, but didn't ask because then I would just be an OSU homer.

There are 2-3 players in front of him that haven't signed.

agent trying to save face after creating the firestorm of afraid to take drug test by not signing waiver for ota's, would be my guess. Imagine he will be done shortly. No idea why anyone would hire an agent to do their rookie contract anyway.

Playing well? Doing what he's told? Learning the system? Good attitude and energy? Just guessing.

Tank Carder gets hyped up just about every pre-season.

Perhaps. But he doesn't always get first reps with the ones.

I thought he only got 1st reps with special teams. lol.

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He practiced with the team the next day.

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John Greco - G - Browns

Browns OL John Greco (foot) is questionable for training camp.
Greco missed the offseason recovering from Lisfranc surgery. He's unlikely to be cleared for training camp and isn't a lock to be ready for Week 1. ESPN Cleveland believes the "odds are stacked against" Greco making the final roster.

Source: clevelandbrowns.com Jun 30 - 6:59 PM

I'd be shocked if Greco was cut loose...

I don't know. A quick look at the roster and I counted 15 OL on board at this time, including Greco.

At 32, he is at the age we might not keep him if a younger player shows some promise. Greco is probably playing for a back-up role.

In his favor is he is pretty good at several positions. That covers a few positions and adds value. For some positions, 32 is getting a bit long in the tooth. I don't know if OL is included in that. Lot's a good Olinemen have held up well in to their late 30's, early 40's.

John has never impressed me as a physical freak. He may not last until near 40, but at 32, I could see him playing well for another 3 years. So it just depends on if we want a vet back-up who is going to decline in a few years, or a young guy who we think is going to get better for the next 7 years?


Something to be said for either way we go.

I hope he sticks, but I hope some others stick as well. I wouldn't be shocked if he is cut loose. If he is cut, I hope we give him the veteran nod and make it early enough and not the last round of cuts. Give him a good shot and landing on another team. After 10 years in the league, he deserves that.

For years, I have believed that Greco was the most underrated player on the team.

No argument here. He's been a solid member of the team. I am just saying we shouldn't be shocked if he is cut, especially if he is limited through camp. It's not like he is a all-pro like Joe who can skate through camp if he wishes.

John is a lunch pail type of player. Kind of like Hank Frailey. Good guys to have on the team, solid players, everybody like them, but not so good they can't be replaced.

I'd bet money he starts the year on the PUP list

I see NO WAY he gets cut UNLESS he's not healthy and his health is questionable long term ...

U cant have enough OLman in todays NFL .. IMO injuries are the biggest factors in who wins and who doesn't ... this games gotten crazy ...

I'm with Jester ... i think worse case for him is he starts the season on IR and is designated for return ... if hes cut were going to miss him this year at least ...

Yeah, I would not cut Greco. Bitonio has missed significant time due to injuries in his brief career.

You would probably win.

FYI: IF he starts TC on the PUP and is unable to participate through TC (and then stays on the PUP) we wouldn't have to use the designated-to-return tag on him. He'd be unavailable though part of the year just like several other guys who could start the year on the PUP.

I believe the designated-to-return tag is for guys who were active for TC and/or for sometime during the regular season. I believe two guys can now be given that tag.

I agree, and in that case, we really don't have to make a determination on his making the 53 to start the season.