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The only reason to keep the logo is because the owner wants to - everyone else is just another opinion that matters if, and only IF, the owner wants their opinion to matter.

There are no other reasons. None.

LOL.........I was just using the same dumb argument that 40 and others are using. I do this more than people think. I use the same approach that others are using and just post it from the other side to show how freaking dumb it is. Of course, most miss it and get offended.

It was those who love the logo that were calling others whiners and bringing up things like white men feeling guilty and comparing N. Americans to ISIS.

Let me be clear. I don't whine about it. I have ZERO guilt. And I think there is brutality w/in all groups of people and good in all groups of people. I don't like being accused of things that aren't true. Thus, if you don't want to be stoned [and I am not talking about you personally,] do not cast the first stone.

I agree w/most of that. That is why I said that I am not in favor of legislation. I believe the owner should act w/common decency and do the right thing.

So far HE HAS done the right thing.

You know I once suggested they drop the Indian in Washington and replace him with a Potato.

The Washington Redskins (redskin potato)

j/c:

So, everyone is okay w/40 comparing Native Americans to ISIS? And everyone is okay w/the pictures that Vambo posted w/N. Americans torturing a white woman? Were those pics truly representational of that time in history?

Nah, you ignore it and get on my case for defending N. Americans.

I hope those of you who have just been reading and are a minority, whether it be blacks, gays, women, Jews, etc......are taking note of this thread.

Oh I've taken notice.

It's funny how their ancestors can wipe out 90% of the native population, then act all confused as to why native Americans hate they asses.

You may want to check your figures there as most Natives died of disease or assimilated into the better way of life we had.

Hey 40...glad you showed up again. But, you still haven't answered the question about what would you do if people from another land invaded our country and tried to take it over. Would you stand idly by and let them have it? Would you give them your riches? Would you change your way of life to assist them?

Man, it's cool how open minded you are. You must be a big proponent of illegal aliens in our country. You probably love all the Muslims and people of the Middle East moving here. I bet you welcome all w/open arms. After all, you compared the N. Americans to ISIS for defending the land they lived on. I guess your belief is to allow others to take whatever they want while you stand by w/idle hands and an idle mind.

Check this one out:



Interesting.....

Assimilated based on who's standard? They seemed to have been doing pretty well for themselves til the white Europeans showed up.

Actually....that seems to be a recurring theme around the world.

“Historically...there is NOTHING that blacks have contributed to the historical struggle and genocide of American Indians...unless I am missing something. Buffalo soldiers received 15 Medals of Honor for tracking down and killing Indians or leading the WHITES to do the same. The black interpreter which translated the words of Crazy Horse from Lakota to English...was said to have purposely mistranslated his words which in the end was directly connected to his assassination. The 9th and 10th Coloured Calvary...all blacks...were with the 7th Calvary at Wounded Knee and more then likely brought with them 2 of the 4 Hotchkiss gattling guns/cannons that shredded to pieces 150 of the 300 bodies of Big Foots people which were "never buried" or identified because they were in to many pieces. NONE of the BLACK soldiers there did one thing during or after the slaughter on behalf of Big Foots people. In fact they made up a RED SKIN SONG to honor the massacre.”

Most died from smallpox brought to them by the Spanish as they traveled thru South America and then headed north. wherever the Indians came in contact with the Spanish, smallpox would soon spread thru the tribes.

This was long before the European settlers came to America.

The truth doesn't add to their agenda.

Yep, it was the blacks who took over the N. American lands. LMAO

Pit, Peen, YTown, others...........you hear these guys?

Or is "okay," because they support the same "logo" you do?

Sorry vers, this is not an emotional thing, it is history.

Even before the European settlement of what is now the United States, Native Americans suffered high fatalities from contact with European diseases spread throughout the Americas by the Spanish to which they had yet not acquired immunity. Smallpox epidemics are thought to have caused the greatest loss of life for indigenous populations, although estimates of the pre-Columbian population of what today constitutes the U.S. vary significantly, from one million to eighteen million.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States

After 1492, European exploration and colonization of the Americas revolutionized how the Old and New Worlds perceived themselves. Many of the first major contacts were in Florida and the Gulf coast by Spanish explorers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States


The settlers didn't start arriving until the 1600's.

1607
The first colony was founded at Jamestown, Virginia, in 1607. Many of the people who settled in the New World came to escape religious persecution. The Pilgrims, founders of Plymouth, Massachusetts, arrived in 1620. In both Virginia and Massachusetts, the colonists flourished with some assistance from Native Americans.
http://www.americaslibrary.gov/jb/colonial/jb_colonial_subj.html

What are you talking about now? When did I bring up anything about white men infecting N. Americans w/disease?

You keep changing the argument because your argument is one of a man w/a paper butthole.

I'm asking you for a 3rd time, are you okay w/foreign people coming here and taking our land? Do you welcome illegal aliens? Do you want more people from the Middle East here? Would you passively stand by while Russians or Chinese invaded our country and stole the land that we live on? And if you fought back, would you be just like "ISIS?"

You talk to much crap and you've been exposed. Go back and fight the libs in the PP forum. You are in over your head in this arena.

Ahhhh..........and I love how our history books glorified the Puritans. They were escaping religious persecution, but they stole land and labeled women witches if they didn't follow their strict laws and then burned them at the stake. What a wonderful group of people they were.

Recruiting a mob?

Don't need one. Kicking your asses all by myself.

ummm where is Spain??

LOL.......they don't count. They have darker skin.

hell not anymore than the Italian's or Greeks.

If you read my posts, you would have all the answers to the Spanish and where they traveled. You would also find the settlers of North America came a century after the Spanish.

yes many Native Smericans died from small pox


SO whats your point? does that change everything else that happened? SO I guess the Trail of Tears was really the US government just trying to help them escape their small pox infected lands??

Don't forget giving them pox infested blankets on purpose and killing the buffalo off to starve them intentionally. We commited genocide, period.

And we would do it again.

HAHA

This made me die lmfao. Eve you're awesome

I have full troll gear on. The liberal weeping ends now.

I don't think this is about liberals and conservatives, but I get why you might think that.

I'm sure 40 and Vambo don't consider them "real" Europeans, either.

So, Vers, when are you giving up your house to a native american, and moving back to italy? Your property doesnt belong to you, you know. It was stolen.

You need to go back to wherever your ancestors came from. And you need to give your home to a poor derelict Native American.

You're babbling, Eve.

I have already said I have no guilt for what happened to the Native Americans. I wasn't here. My ancestors were not here. We were not part of the genocide.

I have only asked for one thing, and that is to treat Native Americans w/respect and dignity, just like any other group.

Eve, do you call people [hmmmmm....the refs would probably suspend me if I said it....] the N word? I mean, it's just a word and doesn't really harm anyone? Do you call homosexuals butt plungers? It's just a term and doesn't really hurt anyone? Yet, we are supposed to accept that using a logo that is insulting is not harmful. LOL.......get outta my face!

This is what it boils down to. There are now enough black and homosexual advocates that the bigots can't attack them w/out being attacked themselves. That is what stops a bully. Getting attacked after he/she attacks. The Native Americans are a true minority and do not have enough advocates, thus they are easy prey for those w/bigoted minds.

And again..........if I were from one of the minority groups, I would be paying close attention to what is being said on this thread, because in their heart of hearts, a bigot is a bigot, but might only express those views when he/she can get away w/it.

Troll that, Eve!

We have this same thread every three months, and youre the head weeper about it every single time.

So man up. Put some action where your tears are, instead of lip service. Get out of this country. Right the wrong, give your home to those it was stolen from. And take your genocidal kids with you.

Whats the matter? Dont you feel bad that you live on land stolen from a native? Arent you going to do something about it, or are you just gonna cry.