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If you truly believed in his teaching no history would be destroyed.

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The only way out of this mess is the opposite of what got us here. Educate people. Stupid people do stupid crap. Narrow views are formed by fear, if people were more exposed to each others points of view, there would be much less hate.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Why would it be "fair" to take down MLK's statues?

He was a great man and I wish to God we had someone like him now in these extreme times.



You have Bernie! And you scoff at him. Is that because he's a Jew, or white? He's no MLK but he says/believes many of the same things.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Why would it be "fair" to take down MLK's statues?

He was a great man and I wish to God we had someone like him now in these extreme times.



You have Bernie! And you scoff at him. Is that because he's a Jew, or white? He's no MLK but he says/believes many of the same things.


Vers wants to give nazis back rubs so of course he didn't like Bernie stances on social issues.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Vambo, I might not like your opinion on the issue but at least you have a stance on something.

I dunno how you put up with this fence rider all the time.


My opinion is you can't have it one way sooner or later there will be nothing left to destroy. It just needs to stop altogether I respect what MLK stood for and accomplished but where does crap end? Just as R E Lee was admired by southern people how you felt when you read my post is how they felt when you tear down their hero.

NOT COMPARING THE TWO!

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Even the alt-right should like Bernie now. If he were President, the Charlottesville thing would most likely not have happened and all their precious statues wouldn't be at risk.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Even the alt-right should like Bernie now. If he were President, the Charlottesville thing would most likely not have happened and all their precious statues wouldn't be at risk.


Bernie as a National Socialist would fit right in with the National Socialists Workers Party (Nazi)

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Even the alt-right should like Bernie now. If he were President, the Charlottesville thing would most likely not have happened and all their precious statues wouldn't be at risk.


Bernie as a National Socialist would fit right in with the National Socialists Workers Party (Nazi)



Democratic Socialist. The Nationalist is your Dear Leader.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
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Why would you want to take those statues down?

What crimes did they commit?

I am so sick and tired of all the hate and bias from both sides!!!!

God, build 4 Walls and lock all these extremists in. Let the sane just deal w/life w/out all of this BS!


Even if all the extremists vanished overnight, the tolerance bar would only raise slightly before you found new ones to moan about.


LMAO..............You, of all freaking people, are accusing me of moaning?

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Why would it be "fair" to take down MLK's statues?

He was a great man and I wish to God we had someone like him now in these extreme times.



You have Bernie! And you scoff at him. Is that because he's a Jew, or white? He's no MLK but he says/believes many of the same things.


It's been proven more times than we can count. Socialism is an opiate and it does not work.

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Quote:

Vers wants to give nazis back rubs so of course he didn't like Bernie stances on social issues.


Wow! A new low.

You're disgusting and I am starting to think that if you were white, you would be a Neo Nazi.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
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Vers wants to give nazis back rubs so of course he didn't like Bernie stances on social issues.


Wow! A new low.

You're disgusting and I am starting to think that if you were white, you would be a Neo Nazi.


Well you are white, and you're probably a neo Nazi, since we wanna go there now.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
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Vers wants to give nazis back rubs so of course he didn't like Bernie stances on social issues.


Wow! A new low.

You're disgusting and I am starting to think that if you were white, you would be a Neo Nazi.


Well you are white, and you're probably a neo Nazi, since we wanna go there now.


A new low.

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All this crap is just the Lefts attempt to paint all Conservatives as being in league with the Nazi's and KKK.
It will fail.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
All this crap is just the Lefts attempt to paint all Conservatives as being in league with the Nazi's and KKK.
It will fail.


Not at all 40. I know most conservatives are good people with different beliefs and values. I have no issue with different. I have issues with hate rhetoric. These idiots could have just as easily attached themselves to the democratic party. But they didn't they found a home in the GOP Big Tent and y'all ignored them until Trump's campaign. They were part of the tea party movement, the Bundy ranch thing, and other things... they were ignored.

Trump likes anybody who likes him and he embraces the hate. He can deny it all he wants, but his actions tell a very different story. He might not be leading them, he might wish they would go away quietly, but he refuses to outright turn on them.

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I kinda agree w/all that, but what about BLM?

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I kinda agree w/all that, but what about BLM?


I don't see them as violent for the most part. I think they have some nutjobs like the tea party did. I think there is an unjustified amount of blacks being killed by cops, but that does not justify violence against cops. Now if I knew for a fact that BLM as a movement was actually calling for violence against cops, then they make the hate group list; but as of now I'm on the fence. wink

And again, I think education is the answer to systemic prejudices like incarceration rates of blacks and police shooting fatalities. Far too many blacks feel threatened by the police and vice versa. We need to educate and mend that fence.

Since we are talking about hate groups, have you seen the hate filled memes all over facebook since Charlottesville? Disgusting.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I kinda agree w/all that, but what about BLM?


I don't see them as violent for the most part. I think they have some nutjobs like the tea party did. I think there is an unjustified amount of blacks being killed by cops, but that does not justify violence against cops. Now if I knew for a fact that BLM as a movement was actually calling for violence against cops, then they make the hate group list; but as of now I'm on the fence. wink

And again, I think education is the answer to systemic prejudices like incarceration rates of blacks and police shooting fatalities. Far too many blacks feel threatened by the police and vice versa. We need to educate and mend that fence.

Since we are talking about hate groups, have you seen the hate filled memes all over facebook since Charlottesville? Disgusting.


Listen to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqQXmnMr_w8


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So the counter protesters are non violent? Trump was right there was hate and wrong on both sides.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/jenniferva...-woman-n2370834


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That video. Who the heck is talking to her? The Reaper? lol


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
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I kinda agree w/all that, but what about BLM?


I don't see them as violent for the most part. I think they have some nutjobs like the tea party did. I think there is an unjustified amount of blacks being killed by cops, but that does not justify violence against cops. Now if I knew for a fact that BLM as a movement was actually calling for violence against cops, then they make the hate group list; but as of now I'm on the fence. wink

And again, I think education is the answer to systemic prejudices like incarceration rates of blacks and police shooting fatalities. Far too many blacks feel threatened by the police and vice versa. We need to educate and mend that fence.

Since we are talking about hate groups, have you seen the hate filled memes all over facebook since Charlottesville? Disgusting.


I wish we could all get along like when I attend a concert ( most of the time) everyone side by side just enjoying life no hate. Sappy but true.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING



Redneck is everywhere cool "We can sit around the fire and talk about things even if we disagree, it doesn't change the taste of the beer we are drinking together" cool "We care when we ask the bank teller how her momma is doing"

"We drink bourbon in the daytime with our friends on the front porch, or around the pool you might call it alcoholism we call it afternoon so bless your heart"


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
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Even the alt-right should like Bernie now. If he were President, the Charlottesville thing would most likely not have happened and all their precious statues wouldn't be at risk.


Bernie as a National Socialist would fit right in with the National Socialists Workers Party (Nazi)



Democratic Socialist. The Nationalist is your Dear Leader.


Lenin considered himself a democratic socialist as well.


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Blacks who were never Slaves fighting Whites
who were never Nazi's over a Statue erected by Democrats,
and it's all Trumps fault?

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I wonder why all this statue and white supremacist uproar wasent brought up when Obama was in office for the 8 years he held office, I believe he would've been more able to handle this situation.

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I wonder why all this statue and white supremacist uproar wasent brought up when Obama was in office for the 8 years he held office, I believe he would've been more able to handle this situation.


it was. the issue has been going on before Trump got into office.

don't know what country you currently live in.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Blacks who were never Slaves fighting Whites
who were never Nazi's over a Statue erected by Democrats,
and it's all Trumps fault?

Man did you ever NAIL that to a TEE

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I wonder why all this statue and white supremacist uproar wasent brought up when Obama was in office for the 8 years he held office, I believe he would've been more able to handle this situation.


I think a lot of it is carry over from their lost election.

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So then why didn't he address it, him being black and all or maybe it wasn't important to him or SOROS to right the wrongs of the past for the minorities

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So then why didn't he address it, him being black and all or maybe it wasn't important to him or SOROS to right the wrongs of the past for the minorities


probably because the movement wasn't as large as it is now, and at the time he had bigger things to worry about.


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Good point but don,t you think he should have done more for minorities being one himself but their laying this on Trump that is labeled as a racist,KKK ,etc by the left ......curious very curious

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He did a lot for minorities during his presidency.

i keep hearing the same thing from my fellow minorities that he didn't do anything for us, and that's the biggest load of crap coming out of our community.


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You know SWISH when Obama won I only hoped for one thing that he would get our county on the right path of healing and IMO he didn't even try,but he did a great job for illegals and nada for my fellow AFRO AMERICANS in which disappoints me cause blacks have put up with a lot of b.s. in my view and probably more than I will ever understand maybe that's why I cant see what he has done and that's why I agree with you fellow minoritied

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Let's see how you guys rationalize this peaceful leftist protest...


https://www.yahoo.com/news/colorado-man-stabbed-neo-nazi-haircut-163146326.html

Over a farking haircut???

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Question for everyone ... I've never really understood this .. and i know the president is our "leader" but I would like help in understanding something here ... and lets be honest ... the number of disenfranchised americans with whom ever the president is has grown to incomprehensible numbers ... especially with Trump ... it was the same with Obama ... i gave Obama 6 years and at that point he was the countries president but as far as I was concerned over his last two years he wasn't mine in that he did very little to nothing i thought was good ...

Anyhow ... back to my question ....

Exactly what is our president suppose to do to heal the divide we now have? ....

- speeches
- laws
- example, if so, like what

I get the presidents our leader ... but I'd put this squarely on

- US ... at the end of the day .. no matter any of our leaders do its us to US ....

- community, religious leaders along with local goverment leaders ... they can organize and fund things to try and bring us together in the same place that allow us to interact and get to know each other ... to discuss openly and honestly the problem on BOTH SIDES ...

- Local police ... they have a huge outreach ... HUGE .... they have a pretty big outreach and could do some things IMO ... theres a few police that post on here .. would love their input on this ...

I don't know what the solutions are to help move this along faster .... but for me, its not about our federal or even our state governments ...

So why is it everyone thinks whoever our president is can do something to close the divide ...

Please help me to understand and please give a few examples ...

Thanks to those who participate and try to educate me ... lord only knows the libs on here have told me many times how stupid i am ... so please help educate my low intelligence ass ... *L* ....




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It's a long and drawn out process, and nobody's going to want to hear one word of it. I could tell you about the education, what the president can do, and how we can all heal and come together, but I don't think I could do it without people refusing to listen, interrutpions, and hate pulling this off topic, and my inabilities to stay focused enough to get the full message out so people would understand.

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Sure I can help you out Diam.

There's nothing the president can do.

The people being "victimized" have absolutely, positively no intention of ever being "nonvictimized".

Simple as that. The more they're given, the more they'll want.

It beats doing all that hard work it takes to earn a living.

Claims of racism will never, ever go away. Never, ever.

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I see it as quite simple.
There is an election coming up and the Dems are struggling.
Time to convince everyone that Republican Conservatives are KKK and time to manipulate the Minorities, whipping them into a frenzy in order to re-secure their votes. Then they can return to ignoring their plight again as they have done in every election since the 60's.

Nuttin new here, move along.

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What can a president do??? More like what can we do. We can quit expecting .gov to be more then what it is supposed to. Quit expecting .gov to be the problem solver. Our system was not designed to be so centralized. Quit telling everyone one that the next election is the most important election in the nations history. Quit depending on .gov being your baby sitter.

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