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Ohio judge slams Cleveland Browns players for protest during national anthem

Congratulations Cleveland Browns on your win. Unfortunately my season ended last night. I will NEVER attend a sporting event where the draft dodging millionaire athletes disrespect the veterans who earned them the right to be on that field. Shame on you all. William O'Neill, LTC, US Army, Retired. Vietnam veteran; son of a World II veteran; proud father of an Iraq veteran.
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/24/ohi...nal-anthem.html

This story is growing legs across the Nation so I think it needs to be addressed here as it is our beloved team.

I for one am saddened by the incident.

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the guys that knelt were old enough to dodge the draft?

man, medicine has come a long way.

the judge's comments were stupid. i'm glad there was unity amongst the players to do what they did, and i am proud to be part of the dawgpound.

-Swish, combat vet, son of a combat vet, father of diva daughters.


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What exactly is the message they are meaning to send?

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Well the fact that there is no draft to dodge and the fact he probably voted for a real draft dodger kind of lessens his message.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
the guys that knelt were old enough to dodge the draft?

man, medicine has come a long way.

the judge's comments were stupid. i'm glad there was unity amongst the players to do what they did, and i am proud to be part of the dawgpound.

-Swish, combat vet, son of a combat vet, father of diva daughters.


My guess is the guy voted for a REAL draft dodger for president...but those pesky 21-25 year old draft dodging football players were offensive.
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So I guess I was wrong and we don't want to discuss this event but only the Judge who commented on it or how its all Trumps fault.

Ok.

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The man is certainly entitled to his opinion..as are others who were offended by the Browns actions.

Is the story growing legs....no. In another few days, the Browns "protest" will be simply a footnote in other stories.

Kaep is the story that just keeps rolling because everytime a team signs a QB, people are crying "racism!" I think Joe Thomas nailed the Kaep situation....Kaep comes with baggage and hassle. And you don't want to deal with that out of your backup QB.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
So I guess I was wrong and we don't want to discuss this event but only the Judge who commented on it or how its all Trumps fault.

Ok.

Discuss what event? The event that a dozen Browns players knelt in prayer during the national anthem? Ok, I'll offer my opinion..



Big deal.


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Well I have been watching this story go from the Sports world to National News in just the last few days. Now they are showing video of the players. I say it is growing and has grown legs.

This is not Kaeperdink, he wore socks saying something like kill the pigs and such.

My main concern is with my team and will this prove to be a distraction that brings us down.

I would still like to know what message they are trying to send.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Well I have been watching this story go from the Sports world to National News in just the last few days. Now they are showing video of the players. I say it is growing and has grown legs.

This is not Kaeperdink, he wore socks saying something like kill the pigs and such.

My main concern is with my team and will this prove to be a distraction that brings us down.

I would still like to know what message they are trying to send.


So this belongs in the football thread not politics based on your post.


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So I guess I was wrong and we don't want to discuss this event but only the Judge who commented on it or how its all Trumps fault.

Ok.

Discuss what event? The event that a dozen Browns players knelt in prayer during the national anthem? Ok, I'll offer my opinion..



Big deal.


You know, that is what I first thought during the game. Why are those guys kneeling in Prayer?

Well they ain't telling it that way in the Media now.

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If they were kneeling in prayer then they should publicize it as such. It would be a positive message. So I dont understand why they dont speak up.


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Well I have been watching this story go from the Sports world to National News in just the last few days. Now they are showing video of the players. I say it is growing and has grown legs.

This is not Kaeperdink, he wore socks saying something like kill the pigs and such.

My main concern is with my team and will this prove to be a distraction that brings us down.

I would still like to know what message they are trying to send.


So this belongs in the football thread not politics based on your post.


I don't think so as it is more about life than about football.

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If they were kneeling in prayer then they should publicize it as such. It would be a positive message. So I dont understand why they dont speak up.


Yes, that would be great if they felt the Country needed Prayer at that moment more than it needed singing of the Anthem.

I would be thrilled to hold on to that thought.

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Cleveland Browns players kneel in prayer during national anthem, largest anthem protest in NFL history

"I wanted to take the opportunity with my teammates during the anthem to pray for our country," said DeValve, one of two white players to participate. "And also to draw attention to the fact that we have work to do. And that's why I did what I did."

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/08/22...fl-history.html

So it seems to be both Prayer and Protest.
This takes the knot out of my gut.

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I wonder what they exactly were praying for and to whom they were praying to ...just curious

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I wonder what they exactly were praying for and to whom they were praying to ...just curious


I personally think they were praying for an 8 and 8 season and they were praying to the one true God.

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They were praying to Megatron


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I wonder what they exactly were praying for and to whom they were praying to ...just curious


I personally think they were praying for an 8 and 8 season and they were praying to the one true God.

Heck if that's really true I have been doing that for 17 years lol

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Damn, Swish, this is scary. I say ditto to every word you wrote....AND I'm a combat vet, father was also, and have three daughters, married to same woman for 44 yrs- AND still love her....sorry, bragging.....GO Browns!!!!


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JMHO, the players are supporting those members of our society who are discriminated against- mostly blacks and other minorities.

I hope they think about how LUCKY they are to live in America where we are having this discussion, because in most of the rest of world....citizens of those countries don't give a _ _ _ _ - fill in any profanity you wish......GO Browns!!!!

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OK so what are the praying for?

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For the auto bots to leave earth.


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I don't like players not standing for the anthem, but what's up w/the judge? Draft dodgers? LMAO

Is he freaking senile?

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SO WHAT! Tell the judge to call his neighbors because that is where he will find all the draft dodgers!!!

And if doesn't like the Browns nor their players,DON"T WATCH!!.. That is his constitutional right!!

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That's why I said dudes comments was nuts.

I get why people are offended but come on. Draft dodgers?


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seems like I struck a nerve with you sorry

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I agree. Dude comes off like maybe he's lost his mind. He should be investigated.

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He just needs a snickers


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Nice. LOL

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
So I guess I was wrong and we don't want to discuss this event but only the Judge who commented on it or how its all Trumps fault.

Ok.
You posted an article about the judges idiotic statement, and nobody said it is Trumps fault, just pointing out the hypocrisy of the judges statement


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It sure seems a lot of problems could be avoided if they would just play the anthem while the players are still in the locker room.

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I know that this will probably be ridiculed by guys like Perfect, CHS, Swish, DNC, etc................but....

I will never forget the pride I felt while standing during the National Anthem as a player and a coach. It was something I always looked forward to.

I remember sticking my chest out and putting my chin up in a a show of pride that my team was actually being honored and respected w/the playing of the National Anthem while at the same time we were honoring a country that provided us such a great opportunity.

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You mean like they did from 2009 and back?

It's funny how this wasn't a problem until the military started paying for fake patriotism.


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I completely agree Vers, that's the way it should be.

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They were praying to Megatron


You see?

This is why 'Darkside Azzhats' like you and upstanding American citizens (and TRUE Browns Fans) like me can never be bros. Everyone (who is sane) knows that those for-real Browns players were channeling positive vibrational energy from Optimus Prime in a Druid-inspired 'Power Circle.'

This country is tearing itself apart at the seams... and it's your fault. Totally. 100%. Decepticons are anti-American.


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I like the villains.

Besides, decepticons are obviously pro American, they voted one into the oval.


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I'm a vet and I approve of them exercising their rights. I don't agree, but it's their right.

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You mean like they did from 2009 and back?

It's funny how this wasn't a problem until the military started paying for fake patriotism.


I've been watching sports for years and I don't remember a time when the players weren't on the field during the Anthem.


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