Seriously? people are butt hurt about some statues getting taken down that represent inequality? Wow just wow. Do it in broad daylight and say "they never should have been put up to begin with.".
I bet you're wondering the samething I did, why O' why didn't I take the...blue pill
Just a friendly reminder to all you conservatives who try to claim that the numbers of racist in this country is low.
Watch some damn documentaries and how these racist organizations decided that they needed to change their image in order to affectively further their agenda. They needed to blend in with normal people instead of looking like jackboot thugs.
And please don't try the BS that this is an isolated incident. We already know there are racist within our law enforcement and criminal justice system.
These racist operate like ISIS. Nothing more than sleeper cells.
Oklahoma Police Chief Set to Quit After Being Linked to Neo-Nazi Websites
A video from the German neo-Nazi music band Lunikoff is seen on YouTube. Google and other internet companies have come under scrutiny for purportedly failing to police extremist content online. Sean Gallup/Getty
White supremacist organizations in the U.S. have come under renewed scrutiny in recent weeks following the deadly Charlottesville rally, in which an anti-racism protester was killed.
The network found that Alsbrook’s name was on ownership records for two neo-Nazi websites: ISD Records and NS88 Videos.
The groups sell Nazi and confederate memorabilia, and neo-Nazi music by bands including The Klansmen with album titles including Hitler was Right.
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The network reported that both websites were taken offline after Alsbrook was questioned about his links to them.
Speaking to news website Tulsa World Saturday, Alsbrook denied involvement with the websites, and said his name had been linked to them by local skinhead groups in a bid to smear him.
“Someone has been using my name for years on the internet in regards to racist topics. It’s not me, rather someone who has hijacked my name due to my combativeness and rejection to white power skinheads who were always coming to the heavy metal shows, starting fights and messing up our scene,” he said, as quoted by the website.
Alsbrook said neo-Nazis in Dallas have been using his name since the mid-90s.
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“We hate each other,” he said. “They use my name in all sorts of things.”
The SPLC had previously identified Alsbrook as Texas coordinator of racist skinhead group Blood and Honor and NS88 chief.
According to the SPLC, Blood and Honor emerged in the racist skinhead music scene in the U.K. in the 1980s, subsequently spread to the U.S., and advocates race war.
When asked if he planned to sue those who he alleged smeared his name, Alsbrook told Tulsa World “wish I could.” He later siad reports on his ties to racist groups placed his family in danger.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Forget it Vambo, they have bought the lie that the South fought for Slavery. You can't discuss with those who have already drunk the koolaid.
It's written into the Confederate Constitution that if your state didn't intend to implement slavery then you weren't going to be in the Confederacy.
And that is just one of many things the South stood for, not the only thing. The main thing was States Rights to govern themselves free of a Federal master.
They also didn't want cotton or tobacco taxed when they sold it to England and a whole list of other demands.
When asked by a Union General why it is he fights so hard, a captured Confederate soldier replied, "Because you are down here, Sir."
i'm posting this in every thread for the fence riders:
"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."
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"In spite of my shattered dreams of the past, I came to Birmingham with the hope that the white religious leadership of this community would see the justice of our cause, and with deep moral concern, serve as the channel through which our just grievances would get to the power structure. I had hoped that each of you would understand. But again I have been disappointed. I have heard numerous religious leaders of the South call upon their worshippers to comply with a desegregation decision because it is the law, but I have longed to hear white ministers say, "follow this decree because integration is morally right and the Negro is your brother." In the midst of blatant injustices inflicted upon the Negro, I have watched white churches stand on the sideline and merely mouth pious irrelevancies and sanctimonious trivialities. In the midst of a mighty struggle to rid our nation of racial and economic injustice, I have heard so many ministers say, "those are social issues with which the gospel has no real concern.", and I have watched so many churches commit themselves to a completely other-worldly religion which made a strange distinction between body and soul, the sacred and the secular.
So here we are moving toward the exit of the twentieth century with a religious community largely adjusted to the status quo, standing as a tail-light behind other community agencies rather than a headlight leading men to higher levels of justice."
-MLK
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I never did understand the White People who speak for the Black People as if they they can not speak for themselves or need their hands held so the Black People do it properly.
As these Liberal Whites spew verbal attacks against their fellow Whites, I am always wondering why Black people don't necessarily attack in the same way, with the same venom. I have always found Black people to be much more reasonable in discussions on racial issues than Liberal Whites.
Is it an attempt to say I am Blacker than the Black people? Is it guilt? Pity?
Never did understand Liberal Whites except to say they have been the absolute worst enemies of Black America. From Welfare making Blacks dependent and the destruction of the Black Family by taking the Fathers away so those Government checks could be larger. The money was never enough to get out of poverty which lead to the Drug Trade, which has become the Black Market, extra money maker for the poor but it decimated Black Society.
It always seemed to me the White Liberal felt the Black American needed to be coddled and cared for like precious children and I find that offensive to Blacks.
But I must say I can't blame Blacks for taking the money just as I would if some fool were handing it out! It did not help them in the long run though. It hurt.
Well that is my opinion and if you combine that with a $5'er it may get you a Latte and Lib-Bucks.
I never did understand the White People who speak for the Black People as if they they can not speak for themselves or need their hands held so the Black People do it properly.
because the only way things get changed is if the people in power (typically white people) allow it. you are the majority. if you guys don't stand for civil rights issue than we don't have a shot in hell.
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As these Liberal Whites spew verbal attacks against their fellow Whites, I am always wondering why Black people don't necessarily attack in the same way, with the same venom. I have always found Black people to be much more reasonable in discussions on racial issues than Liberal Whites.
some do, but again, it doesn't get noticed because our words aren't as powerful as someone who looks like you saying the same thing.
that's the reality of where we are at, and have always been as a nation. also, the majority of liberal whites represent themselves like Rocket and Candy. they don't really engage in the venom that sometimes we get caught up in on the board, other than the rare occurrence. happens to the best of us.
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Is it an attempt to say I am Blacker than the Black people?
well you're certainly blacker than Rocket. He doesn't have a street name, but you do.
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Is it guilt?
i think white guilt is massively overblown and not really a real thing. or at least not as real as people make it out to be. love to have a discussion about that though.
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Pity?
could play a part, but that depends on who we're talking about and how.
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Never did understand Liberal Whites except to say they have been the absolute worst enemies of Black America.
you'll have to discuss that with a liberal white. from my perspective, i think it's more about the system than them as individuals, which happens to be the same message we talk about.
i know i've said some vial ass crap, but i do tell you guys that i try my best not to lump people together. key word is *try*, cause i'm passionate.
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From Welfare making Blacks dependent and the destruction of the Black Family by taking the Fathers away so those Government checks could be larger. The money was never enough to get out of poverty which lead to the Drug Trade, which has become the Black Market, extra money maker for the poor but it decimated Black Society.
we never wanted more government assistance as far as monetary. we've always wanted just an equal shot without the criminal justice system and gross stereotypes affecting our ability to succeed.
unfortunately those two things are still massive problems that we are dealing with.
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It always seemed to me the White Liberal felt the Black American needed to be coddled and cared for like precious children and I find that offensive to Blacks.
i think that's an exaggeration.
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But I must say I can't blame Blacks for taking the money just as I would if some fool were handing it out! It did not help them in the long run though. It hurt.
corporations don't need subsidies yet they freely take it. government assistance, while it might be us that are using it more per capita, isn't a black problem; it's an american problem. there are millions of whites, latinos, and others freely mooching off of the system, or simply stuck on it.
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Well that is my opinion and if you combine that with a $5'er it may get you a Latte and Lib-Bucks.
that's two vodka and rebulls so i'm good.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I do understand that handouts effect Whites and Latino's as well as Blacks but I didn't say it because you were discussing Blacks.
Just look at the drug problems white society is having today, it is decimating white society.
but that's the thing.
it's decimating you guys but that isn't a white problem, it's an american problem. i mean not to toot my own horn but i'm the main one who brings the opiate crisis up all the time around here, but i'm not white.
and that's part of the problem we have right now.
the black community is constantly having to INCLUDE everybody when it comes to our issues. we can't just march for our problems, we have to march for everybody. we're required to include the latinos, the muslims, the women, the gays, the asians, all lives matter, etc.
but the flip side to that issue is the moment we start talking about these things, a lot of white people go "that's not our problem, that's black people's problem. why don't blacks grow up with fathers, or black on black crime", and on and on.
we're suppose to be inclusive with our issues, yet you guys can criticize us as an individual demographic. it's really unfair. and it sends the message that we aren't really equal in this society.
i mean you guys constantly say "we are all equals"......right up until some stuff happens, then you make sure to separate yourselves as quick as possible. but i thought we were all americans protected equally under the law?
isn't the people in detroit, chicago, east cleveland, baltimore, etc. all americans? so why is it only our problem to deal with?
the opiate and meth problem, like you said, affects whites the most. yet the people at our level, as well as politicians DON'T discuss it as a white problem; they discuss it as an american problem.
it's a double standard that rarely gets addressed.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Well yea, I see your point about having to share the limelight with other minorities in every issue but there isn't much to do about that now is there? BLM was kinda the first break from that as they represent Blacks. I have looked at many pictures of BLM gatherings and marches and had to chuckle to myself because most of those heads in the crowd are white heads. BLM started to realize this and announced they were for Blacks only and do not want Whites filling up their meetings and marches. This is their time! Oh how the Liberal Whites cried and fell into the fetal position to find they were not Black after all! But uh oh, there went the funds to run BLM and I have noticed their word doesn't get out like it used too unless their is trouble. You ticked off those who funded you by telling them they were White!
as someone who amember of BLM, though i do support them, i dunno what to really say about what you posted.
people can choose to use their money however they wish.
that tends to be more powerful than words and speeches in today's political world.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I didn't know where to put this, but because this tread is the most hate-filled about political parties and race, I found this video somewhat entertaining on several levels!
yo MB, i heard that a while back and i'm glad you posted it.
unfortunately malcolm X was a bit....militant. and we've gone past the "white liberals vs conservative" era of the 50's, as now everybody tends to be included in such political combat.
the moment hispanics became the dominant minority group is the moment the US reached the point of no return as far as multiculturalism, or at least being against it.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Next you discuss equality. In Dr.Kings day we had nearly zero Black Fire Chiefs, Police Chiefs, Senators, Congressmen, Governors or Mayors. We had nearly zero heads of corporations or even small businessmen. You were 13 percent of the population then and you are 13 percent of the population now so I bet if you checked into it, that 13 percent is doing a lot better than Dr.Kings 13 percent.
Nothing is perfect but better is better. Growth is not shrinking.
About equality. We are equal under the law and under the amended Constitution. We have exactly the same Rights and when people don't believe that, like say someone in the KKK, and they drive around your house with Confederate Flags flying while yelling horrible things, they soon find that Blacks have equal rights under the law when they get sentenced to 20 years for what they thought they had the right to do. (Recently happened it Georgia or Alabama).
Nothing is ever perfect but I do have a dream of Dr.King shaking a fist and yelling, "Lock them Up! Lock them Up!" (while standing next to me with our Trump hats on)
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
nobody is arguing that there hasn't been progress, especially comparing how it is now to the 1950's and 60's.
but progress doesn't equal completion.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Or too religious... Sometimes they are one in the same.
very excellent point.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Here's some hysteria where a group accused a guy of being a Nazi, the result of which is was he was attacked by a mob because he was a white guy wearing a polo shirt. It's hard to believe but that's pretty much the reason. Watch the video and the respectable commentary by Tim Pool.
Don't mess with our Civil War monuments. If Lee had listened to Longstreet and flanked Meade at Gettysburg instead of sending Pickett up the middle, you'd be paying taxes to Richmond instead of Washington.
Don't mess with our Civil War monuments. If Lee had listened to Longstreet and flanked Meade at Gettysburg instead of sending Pickett up the middle, you'd be paying taxes to Richmond instead of Washington.
but he didn't, and you lost, and the confederate soldiers are nothing more than a bunch of treacherous losers.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Don't mess with our Civil War monuments. If Lee had listened to Longstreet and flanked Meade at Gettysburg instead of sending Pickett up the middle, you'd be paying taxes to Richmond instead of Washington.
but he didn't, and you lost, and the confederate soldiers are nothing more than a bunch of treacherous losers.
There you go again..........making racist comments and dumb ass generalizations.
It is an untruth that all Confederate soldiers were treacherous and while they lost the war, I don't know if it is fair to classify them all as losers.
Sometimes they are one in the same.