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Other than Coleman who has been reborn under al saunders we dont have a #2. I was wrong about Britt, I thought coming off of the year he had he would want even more but he was and is making business decisions out there. I would not hesitate to cut him at this point.

We dont have a 2. We dont have a 3 and I dont honestly know if we have a #4 receiver. We have a bunch of project 5th and 6th guys with Duke pretending to be a slot.

Njoku is a year away and Telfar doesnt know to sit in a zone and run through man. easily confused there. Devalve can catch but he cant block to save his life.

We need options and right now, there arent many.


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i'm very rarely correct, especially about football stuff ... but man, I NEVER had a good feeling about signing Britt (and I still could be wrong about him). I always thought he was going to be a bust here, and thus far he certainly looks to be content after making his big payday.

I wouldn't care if we cut him either. Don't be financially strapped to someone who isn't better than Payton, Higgins, Mullaney, or whoever.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Didn't see the game tonight.
I'm thinking/hoping that as we near crunch time and teams must make some tough cuts that somebody shakes free that will be of use to us.

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I wouldn't write off Kenny Britt just yet. I think this guy could be a very nice redzone target this year due to his size/frame. I don't think he's going to be the #1 target or anything but I wouldn't count him out after a dropped pass in the rain and a unnecessary roughness call last night.


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I posted this earlier this week in the "Available Players" thread in PF, but it could fit here:

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Talk in Jacksonville that Jaguars may look to trade Allen Hurns

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August 23, 2017

A year ago, the Jaguars were so high on wide receiver Allen Hurns that they signed him to a four-year, $40 million contract extension. This year, the team’s view of Hurns appears to have changed.

There’s talk in Jacksonville that Hurns could be traded, with Jaguars beat writer Ryan O’Hallaran guessing that’s what the team wants to do.

An undrafted rookie in 2014, Hurns had a breakout season in 2015, catching 64 passes for 1,031 yards and 10 touchdowns. But last year his production declined significantly, and new Jaguars boss Tom Coughlin may think the team erred in giving Hurns such a big contract after just two seasons.

Hurns is due a base salary of $7 million this season, and it remains to be seen whether any team wants to trade for that salary. Hurns hasn’t played yet in the preseason, perhaps because the Jaguars want to keep him healthy and attractive to potential trade partners.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...de-allen-hurns/

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hurns is a bigger body right? might not be a bad idea ... and he's younger, though IIRC not much speed


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I think the Dwayne Bowe experience is coloring peoples' view of Britt a little bit. He definitely has some things to clean up and can't have the drops, but he's shown more than Bowe ever did here.

At this point, I'd roll with what we've got. Definitely don't think I'd be giving up assets for anyone.

I would have liked to have seen more slant routes and crossers. We didn't seem to run hardly any.

Coleman, Louis, Britt, Higgins, Hall, and Leslie are the 6 I'd probably go with. I think our chemistry is pretty good right now (off the field especially), and I'm not sure I'd want to throw in an outsider. Let the group grow with Kizer. Any new guy would need to learn the offense and develop chemistry and I think Kizer has a pretty full plate of things to do without needing to devote additional time to that.

Is Payton practice squad eligible? He and Leslie are kind of a toss up.


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Anyone that follows football could have told you Kenny Britt is never more than a dollar chaser.
He's never been passionate about football
He's never wanted to be elite
Just cause you get 1000 yards doesn't mean your the answer
Everytime the Browns sign a free agent WR it's because
He's not really wanted by his previous team
Britt is Dwayne Bowe 2.0
Came here for money not to be a mentor.

Coleman showed some glimpses of what might be able to be vs the Bucks
And of course the great Ricardo Louis put up a zero in the Stat box.
Hall and Higgins are nothing more than the 52 and 53 guys on the roster.
Nothing they do makes you go wow

The tight ends arent exactly threats at this point
Devalve can catch but has no extra gear or ability to break tackles
Njoke is still learning the position

Coleman will get doubled teamed alot and defenses will get away with it

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I see Hall, Louis and Coleman as likely our top WRs. Britt with that drop made me uneasy on him.

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Anyone that follows football could have told you Kenny Britt is never more than a dollar chaser.


Most football players are dollar chasers. Most people, in general, are dollar chasers. I know I am!

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He's never been passionate about football
He's never wanted to be elite

Where is this coming from?



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https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/901821465988915205

Well, we are looking ... Jarvis Landry is a possibility and so is Phillip Dorsett


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Landry would be sweet but didnt he just get nailed for domestic violence 2 weeks ago.

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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/901821465988915205

Well, we are looking ... Jarvis Landry is a possibility and so is Phillip Dorsett


If Jarvis Landry is available, we need to get him. His contract is up at the end of the year, so we will have to pay him. But all he has done in the NFL is produce.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LandJa00.htm

288 receptions in his first three years for 3051 yards.

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Originally Posted By: Mourgrym
Landry would be sweet but didnt he just get nailed for domestic violence 2 weeks ago.


http://www.12up.com/posts/5366629-jarvis...atest-statement

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Originally Posted By: Mourgrym
Landry would be sweet but didnt he just get nailed for domestic violence 2 weeks ago.


http://www.12up.com/posts/5366629-jarvis...atest-statement


Thanks Bro, sad it is all over the news he is being investigated for hitting his girlfriend then u never hear from anyone that he has been cleared.

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he's a definite upgrade if we can get him


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/901821465988915205

Well, we are looking ... Jarvis Landry is a possibility and so is Phillip Dorsett


If Jarvis Landry is available, we need to get him. His contract is up at the end of the year, so we will have to pay him. But all he has done in the NFL is produce.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LandJa00.htm

288 receptions in his first three years for 3051 yards.


Could be a Jamie collins type of situation. Bring him in and win him over.

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Originally Posted By: Mourgrym
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/901821465988915205

Well, we are looking ... Jarvis Landry is a possibility and so is Phillip Dorsett


If Jarvis Landry is available, we need to get him. His contract is up at the end of the year, so we will have to pay him. But all he has done in the NFL is produce.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LandJa00.htm

288 receptions in his first three years for 3051 yards.


Could be a Jamie collins type of situation. Bring him in and win him over.


And use the franchise tag if you have to, I'd give up quite a bit to get Jarvis Landry.

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Originally Posted By: Mourgrym
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/901821465988915205

Well, we are looking ... Jarvis Landry is a possibility and so is Phillip Dorsett


If Jarvis Landry is available, we need to get him. His contract is up at the end of the year, so we will have to pay him. But all he has done in the NFL is produce.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LandJa00.htm

288 receptions in his first three years for 3051 yards.


Could be a Jamie collins type of situation. Bring him in and win him over.
good thinking


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I'm in favor of Njoku taking his lumps and letting Louis, Leslie, Higgins and Hall get more time on the field. In fact, I'd look at lining up Coleman, Louis, and Leslie, (or Higgins, or Hall) instead of Britt & Telfer from the gate. Let them grow with Kizer instead of wasting reps and game time.


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He's a 1st rd pick of the Titans who's on his 3rd NFL team
His body language has told me in the preseason he's just here collecting a pay check and going through motions
He's a classic underachieving WR who was signed by a team desperate at WR

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Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper
He's a 1st rd pick of the Titans who's on his 3rd NFL team
His body language has told me in the preseason he's just here collecting a pay check and going through motions
He's a classic underachieving WR who was signed by a team desperate at WR
yeah, ive NEVER been impressed with Britt. I actually think it's his 4th team isn't it? Either way, I'm always wary of guys who have career years in contract years.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Note to FO;

Never draft four WR's from a very weak WR class and think you actually addressed anything. You didn't.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
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He's a 1st rd pick of the Titans who's on his 3rd NFL team
His body language has told me in the preseason he's just here collecting a pay check and going through motions
He's a classic underachieving WR who was signed by a team desperate at WR
yeah, ive NEVER been impressed with Britt. I actually think it's his 4th team isn't it? Either way, I'm always wary of guys who have career years in contract years.


The Browns are his third team. He started with the Titans and then went to the Rams.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper
He's a 1st rd pick of the Titans who's on his 3rd NFL team
His body language has told me in the preseason he's just here collecting a pay check and going through motions
He's a classic underachieving WR who was signed by a team desperate at WR
yeah, ive NEVER been impressed with Britt. I actually think it's his 4th team isn't it? Either way, I'm always wary of guys who have career years in contract years.


The Browns are his third team. He started with the Titans and then went to the Rams.
thanks. Couldnt remember if he was with the Giants for a bit or not


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Fine. I'll say it. I think he is overrated.

I guess it all depends on what we'd get for him. I'm curious why the Dolphins would be interested in getting rid of him...and it can't be because of Devante Parker, right?

I also think Tannehill is overrated as well, so maybe that had something to with his, IMO, sub par productivity.


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Fine. I'll say it. I think he is overrated.

I guess it all depends on what we'd get for him. I'm curious why the Dolphins would be interested in getting rid of him...and it can't be because of Devante Parker, right?

I also think Tannehill is overrated as well, so maybe that had something to with his, IMO, sub par productivity.


Jarvis Landry has the most receptions ever by a receiver in his third season (tied with ODB).

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Jarvis Landry - WR - Dolphins

According to The Ringer's Mike Lombardi, the Dolphins are "seriously" listening to any trade offers involving Jarvis Landry.

Per Lombardi, the Dolphins are "not going to re-sign" Landry to an extension after the season, and they are intent on turning over the passing-game focal point reins to DeVante Parker, evidenced by Parker's No. 1 wideout usage during the preseason. Landry is good at football, but he is a limited-athlete slot-only receiver whom Dolphins coaches believed held back the offense in previous years. Still, we suspect the Fins would at least would a second-round pick in return, and we suspect few if any teams would be willing to pay that price for a capped-ceiling slot receiver.

Source: Mike Lombardi on Twitter Aug 27 - 2:28 PM




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Cameron Meredith - WR - Bears

Cameron Meredith left Sunday's third preseason game with a left knee injury and will not return.

He was carted off after coming down with a 16-yard catch late in the first quarter. FOX declined to show a replay of the injury because it was so graphic. Meredith had his left leg placed in an air-cast upon exiting and is clearly dealing with a serious, potentially season-ending injury. His absence will open up targets for Kevin White and slot receiver Kendall Wright and could make the Bears even more reliant on second-year workhorse Jordan Howard.

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Agreed.

Britt was a 5 TD - 1,000 yard receiver last year. I expect similar production this year.

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Originally Posted By: Dave
I posted this earlier this week in the "Available Players" thread in PF, but it could fit here:

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Anybody know about this guy? Should the Browns be interested?


Talk in Jacksonville that Jaguars may look to trade Allen Hurns

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August 23, 2017

A year ago, the Jaguars were so high on wide receiver Allen Hurns that they signed him to a four-year, $40 million contract extension. This year, the team’s view of Hurns appears to have changed.

There’s talk in Jacksonville that Hurns could be traded, with Jaguars beat writer Ryan O’Hallaran guessing that’s what the team wants to do.

An undrafted rookie in 2014, Hurns had a breakout season in 2015, catching 64 passes for 1,031 yards and 10 touchdowns. But last year his production declined significantly, and new Jaguars boss Tom Coughlin may think the team erred in giving Hurns such a big contract after just two seasons.

Hurns is due a base salary of $7 million this season, and it remains to be seen whether any team wants to trade for that salary. Hurns hasn’t played yet in the preseason, perhaps because the Jaguars want to keep him healthy and attractive to potential trade partners.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...de-allen-hurns/



We'll take him and that contract for a 2018 3rd round pick in exchange for a 7th rounder.


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I don't see Britt getting close to a 1000 yards
He was the the best WR by default in LA.
Quick and Austin both busts at WR.
The emergence of Coleman will lessen Britts numbers and I can see Britt becoming a malcontent once the Browns start out 2-5 3-8
Heck he's barely trying in the preseason

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Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper
The emergence of Coleman will lessen Britts numbers and I can see Britt becoming a malcontent once the Browns start out 2-5 3-8


I don't think Britt will be very good, but, from what I've read/seen, he's a great teammate.

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Well having great team mates who can't produce gets you what we had last year. A 1-15 record. This FO didn't sign him to that contract because he was a great team mate.


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Well having great team mates who can't produce gets you what we had last year. A 1-15 record. This FO didn't sign him to that contract because he was a great team mate.


I agree. I am just saying that I don't think Britt will become a malcontent.

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Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper
I don't see Britt getting close to a 1000 yards
He was the the best WR by default in LA.
Quick and Austin both busts at WR.
The emergence of Coleman will lessen Britts numbers...
I think you are reading what happened with Britt and the Ram's the wrong way. Sure, I agree that Ram's didn't have much talent around him in the passing game. But how is that different then Pryor's situation last year? (btw you could make the argument either way having fewer weapons makes it easier for the defense to focus on stopping whomever is the top receiving threat)

Brown's fan's love Pryor and lament his loss but how was Pryor situation different then Britt's? Best WR on a bad team? Britt's production was on par w/ Pryor.

And if you look closely at the numbers:

Pryor--1,007-4 TDs
Britt--1,002-5 TDs

But guess what? Pryor had 140 targets vs 111 for Britt.

With the loss of Pryor, Hawkin and Barnidge and our TEs being inexperienced I think there will be plenty of target to get both Coleman and Britt ~100 targets each.

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I don't see Britt getting close to a 1000 yards
He was the the best WR by default in LA.
Quick and Austin both busts at WR.
The emergence of Coleman will lessen Britts numbers...
I think you are reading what happened with Britt and the Ram's the wrong way. Sure, I agree that Ram's didn't have much talent around him in the passing game. But how is that different then Pryor's situation last year? (btw you could make the argument either way having fewer weapons makes it easier for the defense to focus on stopping whomever is the top receiving threat)

Brown's fan's love Pryor and lament his loss but how was Pryor situation different then Britt's? Best WR on a bad team? Britt's production was on par w/ Pryor.

And if you look closely at the numbers:

Pryor--1,007-4 TDs
Britt--1,002-5 TDs

But guess what? Pryor had 140 targets vs 111 for Britt.

With the loss of Pryor, Hawkin and Barnidge and our TEs being inexperienced I think there will be plenty of target to get both Coleman and Britt ~100 targets each.


All good points, And Britt will have a QB in Kizer, who doesn't shy away from taking the deep options as apposed to dink and dunks.

I do have concerns over his lack of production in the PS, but then he could just be making a business decision, by trying to not get injured before that first game check. I'm hoping that is the case, but with our track record with Veteran WR's, it's hard to be confident in projecting Britt's play, come the regular season.


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Good post, but I think you are forgetting that last year was basically Pryor's first at playing WR full time and that Britt came into the league as a WR as a first round pick and flamed out in Tennessee.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Good post, but I think you are forgetting that last year was basically Pryor's first at playing WR full time and that Britt came into the league as a WR as a first round pick and flamed out in Tennessee.


I think that we should have kept Pryor (transition tag), but if we get similar production out of Britt as we got from Pryor last year, I will be thrilled.

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