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I dont want to know about anyones nuts unless your name is Bradley Cooper. <3 Ummm, how do you know my name? You were really good in American Sniper.
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This guy can bother me any time he wants. Oh, that's not me, whew! I'm much better looking. 
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This guy can bother me any time he wants. i'm still upset you don't think Timberlake is fine. you like bradley cooper but watch, bet you don't think Johnny depp is cute.
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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
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Where's the fire and fury?
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When I woke up this morning and checked twitter, I was shocked to see that Trump hadn't retaliated.
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Yeah, I mean Kim shot off another missile. I expected a twitter bomb in response. I think that's what Trump meant by fire and fury. But so far nothing.
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He shot off a missile over the airspace of another country. That's not just a missile test. That's provocation.
I half expected to wake up this morning to news of an airstrike against N Korea or something.
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I agree that this is extreme provocation. My point is that there is no good option here. With both S. Korea and Japan right in N. Koreas cross hairs, there is no real option to attack N. Korea.
I mean Trump can threaten, "Fire and fury like the world has never seen", but in fact, saying that is no less silly than Obama's. "red line" in Syria. You can rattle sabres all you like, but in the end you have to measure the logistics and the human cost in what you're doing.
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It is a no-win situation.
Although at this point, I wouldn't be mad if there was a little black ops unit that could introduce the Glorious Leader over there to a high caliber bullet.
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and who would that leave in charge? One of his crazy Generals, that's who.
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The only viable military response is utter annihilation of at least the hierarchy of NK if not most or all military targets. You can not accomplish that with a single strike or in a very short time frame.
Missile defense in SK and Japan should be in place, but if he's going to start firing 'over' them, when do we use those defenses? That missile should have been shot down before it got over Japan last night.
China says it will not protect him but Bannon telling the press that there is no military option really hurt Trump and Companies bluff.
Scary stuff.
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I don't think we should use nukes on NK unless they launch one. That said, I think the strongest attack we could make would be many high altitude moabs in multiple rapid sortes. Don't see that happening because it leaves our allies too vulnerable to his nukes.
And that's the issue. We could defeat NK fairly quickly, but we cannot protect our allies if we do and we can not risk China or Russia getting involved.
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and who would that leave in charge? One of his crazy Generals, that's who. Better idea, oh stock market multi-millionaire?
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and who would that leave in charge? One of his crazy Generals, that's who. Better idea, oh stock market multi-millionaire? lol, Canada chimes in. 40 should not have picked that fight with our good neighbor to the north.
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Just remember folks: if we go to war with North Korea now, the Chinese will consider it unprovoked, and it won't just be North Korea we go to war with.
I dunno why some of y'all are foaming st the mouth for war like some rabid dogs, but y'all need to chill.
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How long is Japan going to tolerate this?
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Do you see the size of their military? What exactly are they gonna do?
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I dont know, thats why I'm asking. If you are japan, what do you do? Sit around while someone shoots missles at you?
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If you're Japan, you don't really have a choice.
If you attack NK, you just started WW3 without the blessing of anybody, but now SK and US are forced to join. Also, attacking then will obviously have china entering the game. China has been looking for any reason to run up in Japan's crib. Attacking NK gives that option. I could see China borderline ignoring the bombing in NK and send the bulk of their military right on ever to Japan.
Millions would die before we even had a chance to send a huge surge over to Southeast Asia, and that's not even taking into account the threat of NK dropping a nuke once that happens.
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I think thats what will happen then. We are gonna get dragged into this.
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One of our Nuke subs can turn NK to glass before Kim can shout "Oh Crap!".
This will leave China to decide if they want to die too, over a piece of glass. They won't.
Trump will offer them a port in Mississippi and we will all be friends again.
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One of our Nuke subs can turn NK to glass before Kim can shout "Oh Crap!".
This will leave China to decide if they want to die too, over a piece of glass. They won't.
Trump will offer them a port in Mississippi and we will all be friends again. You're willing to kill millions of civilians in NK just to attack fat boy first? That's a war crime.
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I think thats what will happen then. We are gonna get dragged into this. Mattis and tillerson really need to push for a sit down with fat boy. This is gonna be extremely difficult, but there has to be some sort of deal we can cut in order to avoid the casualties that won't be seen since WW2. It would be nice for the deal maker to step up. If trump could nail this diplomatically, he's getting a 2nd term and I won't even bitch about it.
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One of our Nuke subs can turn NK to glass before Kim can shout "Oh Crap!".
This will leave China to decide if they want to die too, over a piece of glass. They won't.
Trump will offer them a port in Mississippi and we will all be friends again. You're willing to kill millions of civilians in NK just to attack fat boy first? That's a war crime. Is that what I said? Wow! That would be a war crime!  I thought I was telling Eve she doesn't have to fear NK because we can take them out in a flash if they attack us.
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Eve was asking from japans perspective.
Again, if Japan or any of our allies strikes first, it won't matter how quick we respond....it's gonna be devastating on all sides.
NK has the artillery to completely level Seoul without nukes, and we don't have much to stop it.
Make no mistake, I believe the US, with the help of our allies, would ultimately come out on top. The question has ALWAYS been this: is the death toll worth it?
The dynamics of this situation is like no other situation in human history.
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Well tough turds to the Japanese. They lost the war and are lucky we aren't over there tearing down their statues.
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I think thats what will happen then. We are gonna get dragged into this. Mattis and tillerson really need to push for a sit down with fat boy. This is gonna be extremely difficult, but there has to be some sort of deal we can cut in order to avoid the casualties that won't be seen since WW2. It would be nice for the deal maker to step up. If trump could nail this diplomatically, he's getting a 2nd term and I won't even bitch about it. That WOULD be nice. Sad thing is, we all know how nk disregards deals.
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I think thats what will happen then. We are gonna get dragged into this. Mattis and tillerson really need to push for a sit down with fat boy. This is gonna be extremely difficult, but there has to be some sort of deal we can cut in order to avoid the casualties that won't be seen since WW2. It would be nice for the deal maker to step up. If trump could nail this diplomatically, he's getting a 2nd term and I won't even bitch about it. That WOULD be nice. Sad thing is, we all know how nk disregards deals. maybe the right deal hasn't come along? i dunno bro.
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The article says that retaliating for a missile hitting Japan would trigger an all out world war with China coming to the defense of NK. I'm not so sure China would defend the chubby kid if he actually shot a missile directly at Japan.
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I agree that this is extreme provocation. My point is that there is no good option here. With both S. Korea and Japan right in N. Koreas cross hairs, there is no real option to attack N. Korea.
I mean Trump can threaten, "Fire and fury like the world has never seen", but in fact, saying that is no less silly than Obama's. "red line" in Syria. You can rattle sabres all you like, but in the end you have to measure the logistics and the human cost in what you're doing. I agree...he really set himself up to fail with that comment.
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IMO NK, Russia, and China are hoping we or Japan shoots one of these decoys out of the air to get Intel on defense capabilities. I'm pretty sure we know if these NK missiles are armed or not.
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