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So who takes his spot....snd I thought tanking the season was only for last year

Putting Haden on the field would have been tanking, IMO.

Thanks, Joe, for your good seasons and effort. NFL, Not For Long, if he gets picked up by someone else, hope he plays well against everyone but the Browns.\ Who replaces him, a young guy with potential......GO Browns!!!!

yep, about an hour ago

To be clear, I didn't say that.

j/c...

I am very surprised they just out right released Haden. Things must have gotten awkward in the building the building yesterday amidst the rumors. At least this gives Haden decided the chance to play a role in his next opportunity.

Best of luck to him on his next team!

Crazy. He was easily our best 1st round draft pick after Joe Thomas too. Didn't even make it to 30. I'm very torn, because last year I called him trash and said he didn't want to play against anyone's #1 WR. But I also didn't want him to be cut as he's such an integral part of the modern day Cleveland sports scene. He really took over Josh Cribb's role of being at every Cleveland sporting event and really just loving the city. I really do wish Joe Haden the best. And at least I can finally get a nice Joe Haden jersey without shelling out $100 and have to live with the fear of him being cut or traded.

Haden had several things working against him.
Once he got that huge contract he lost his desire to be elite
But every year his job was handed to him
He didnt have to work for it in the last few
Years when he was declining

And number 2 during the week he looked like a,All Pro vs his own below average WRs in practice but on Sundays he got exposed by better wrs

He will land on a playoff team looking for cb depth

j/c....

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Per source, Browns tried to get Joe Haden to take a pay cut from his $11 million salary. Haden declined. He's now a free agent.

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Browns release Joe Haden
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The Browns were reportedly trying to trade cornerback Joe Haden on Tuesday.

That effort came to an end on Wednesday, but not with the team opting to hold onto him for another season. The Browns have announced Haden’s release.

Haden was set to make $11.1 million this season with $4 million in guaranteed money. The Browns will take on $10.8 million in dead cap space as a result of the move, which comes after a couple of injury-plagued seasons that saw Haden’s play drop from the high level he’d been at earlier in his career.

Haden will surely get looks from other teams hoping he can recapture some of that old play now that they don’t have to give up anything but money for the right to bring him to their team.

The move may not be met with a round of applause from coach Hue Jackson, who said on Tuesday that he wants Haden on the team. There might not be any outright argument either as Jackson also said that he will go along with “whatever our organization thinks is best for our football team.”

Very good luck to Haden.

I don't think this was a shock for no-one, I actually liked what the FO did here, he was given the chance but he could not do it.

So best of luck to him

In typical Browns fashion, Joe Haden gets picked up by the Patriots, has a Pro Bowl year, and wins a Super Bowl...much like a few other players who were not good enough to play for the Browns anymore like Dion Lewis and Jabbal Sheard.

its comical. To cut a guy like Haden. Haden has been the only corner in the league who has been able to shutdown AJ Green when he is healthly. So what Haden had injuries the last two years. Thats no reason to give up on a guy who is only 28 years old...Haden is literately at the prime of his playing years...from 28-32 is the prime years for a Cornerback.

our Front Office is just stupid..Haden probably will have a Pro Bowl year for another team and we are again going to look really stupid...

Haden should have been given this year to prove he was worth the contract, if not you cut him next year when the cap hit isn't so high...this is just a dumb move all around, and Haden was still the best CB on our roster right now. Haden has had a lot of detractors, but he has been one of our best players...Haden made two Pro Bowls with ZERO pass rush FFS! no other corner would have made a Pro Bowl playing with the Front 7 Haden had.

Regardless, Thanks for everything Joe Haden, You have been a great guy and a great player for this team. Your contributions to the community will be missed, and i wish you success in your next adventure.

First off I would like to thank Joe for all he did as a Brown and wish him well. I don't believe we would have released him if we thought he could help us this year. All I have read here the past 2 years is how he gets beat all the time and he is not the player he once was. I realize he had injuries but the FO and coaching staff must have seen something for it to come to this. It could be an attitude problem too although that is just speculation. I'm sure we will pick someone up after cuts.

After reportedly trying to trade CB Joe Haden for over a year, and even more aggressively over the past 24 hours, the Cleveland Browns have cut Haden, shedding his $32.9M contract, according to Ian Rapoport.

Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports reported that the Browns were “aggressively trying to trade” Haden yesterday, noting the team was “very motivated” to move his contract, which would have paid him that $32.9M over the next three seasons.

Haden signed a new deal prior to the 2015 season after a promising two years of play. In 2013 and 2014, Haden earned PFF coverage grades of 83.7 and 79.0, ranking 18th and 24th among the league’s corners, respectively. Over the two seasons, he allowed a passer rating of just 75.4 on throws into his primary coverage, the seventh-lowest mark among cornerbacks with at least 900 coverage snaps over that time.

However, since signing the deal, Haden’s play has declined and nagging injuries have kept him from consistent play. 2016 was Haden’s worst year as a pro. He gave up a league-high six touchdowns, and allowed 1.48 yards per coverage snap, the league’s 12th-highest mark among cornerbacks.

Haden’s performance this preseason has continued the downward trend. Through three preseason games, Haden has allowed 1.61 yards per coverage snap, and a passer rating of 104.6, both the highest marks among Browns cornerbacks with at least 30 coverage snaps.



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Rumors are the Steelers have a lot of interest in Haden. I guess Haden's Agent also reps quite a few of the Steelers players.

Better hope this doesn't happen...The Steelers have the supporting cast on defense to turn Haden back into the 2014 Joe Haden...if that happens...look out....

I fully expect this to happen. Its typical Browns luck..Haden will go to the Steelers and return back to his old 2014 form and dominate us for the rest of his career. Dick Lebeau knows how to use a corner like Haden....

Saints, Chiefs are the first two with a lot of interest according to schefter

Lebeau is in Tennessee.

And $3.6M next year.

I think this is more about the team thinking Joe Haden isn't very good anymore. If he was even our third best corner it was worth keeping him because we are already paying him.

This is why I am in favor of players getting as much money as possible. When they are not needed anymore, they are discarded. The team show no loyalty, neither should the player.

Well, like I said, the Browns have 2 strong coaching personalities, and this move doesn't happen without both Hue and Wiliams signing off on it.

We will be playing a lot of 3 S Nickel and Dime. Our top 3 CB are now McCourty, Taylor, and Boddy-Calhoun. Joe has slipped badly. any people have said so on this board.

While I don't think this move necessarily makes the Browns better today, it removes a roadblock for some younger players to get some playing time, so we can see what we have in them.

I respect the heck out of Haden though. When people were doggin' on Cleveland, after James left, he stood up for the city. I will never forget that, and will always be grateful for his all out support of the city.

He was getting paid a TON while getting out-played by at least three other CB's; plus whatever we haven't seen in camp & practices.

The value just wasn't there any longer.
He got paid and then tanked.

If we're being honest. Joe Haden was never very fast. There were small talks of him moving to safety when he was drafted and as a prospect. He was just quick enough to stick with his WRs. Joe Haden won as a corner by using his hands. Since his groin injuries, he's lost a little bit of that quickness. Can't stick with the faster WRs in and out of their routes. Personally, I think some psychological things went on with him around 2013. He was a tier 1 corner, but was never mentioned with Patrick Peterson or Richard Sherman, mainly because he didn't have the int numbers. Since then I think he started to gamble on routes, and why he's so particularly bad at double moves later in his career. I do wish him well. Especially if he goes to the Patriots. However, if he goes to the Steelers, he better be at all the Cavs and Indians still or he's dead to me

I can't really hate Joe, because he's been such a good face of the franchise. But you can't deny that his play has declined considerably. I'm a little surprised they cut him outright, but maybe it was a mutual decision, so that he could try to get starting work elsewhere.

If he goes to the Steelers, I'm fine with it. I'd love for Kizer to look like an all-pro in his first start.

I think it's an exciting time to be a Browns fan.

Our dedication to building a winning franchise is unprecedented and something Browns fans haven't seen in quite a long time.

I think it's a two way street. Most players won't even talk contract 18 months from free agency and then get overpaid once they hit the market. When their skills decline their contract becomes as large a liability as their receding talent. Add injuries to the mix and FOs are even quicker to hit the reject button. It would be interesting to know the retention rate (on the third contract) among players that re-up before they become free agents.

Best of Luck, Joe

Steelers are the favorite to sign him

That's actually the perfect place for him.

Being a Steeler will allow him to get away with all those Jersey grabs.

Something isn't adding up. Several of you say that this isn't about money, yet there is this:



Who is making things up? Rappoport or you guys?

I always thought Joe was overrated except for that one year when Horton first arrived, but he was probably the best corner on this team.

I don't mind getting rid of Haden if we would have gotten value for it.........or been in a cap crunch. However we neither got anything for him and aren't near a cap crisis.

I don't think he's the best CB on the team anymore, as a matter of fact he shouldn't be starting. However, I can't see the value in just out right releasing a guy unless he wasn't better than the 5-6 CBs we will be keeping. I have a hard time believing he wasn't one of those top 5-6 guys.

I really wish we would have moved him to FS because I still believe he could have had some value there. Oh well best of luck Joe!!

Okay, maybe better said this way...

This isn't a cut because his contract is too high, it's a cut because he's like the 4th best corner on the team and he's getting paid like he's the best.

By looking at the past two years of games played and production while on the field, it didn't match his contract. They asked him to take a pay cut, he refused and then they cut him.

It's more about his poor play, but money was a partial factor in the end.

If Joe was willing to drop his salary, he'd still be on the team.

Jason La Canfora was right and posters were wrong. Maybe it's time fans start to realize which side some of the hate is really coming from.

Everyone thought we would get something for him but we didn't. People said we shouldn't trade him this year because of depth at the position.

Well he was sent packing. The only way we'll get to find out if he has recovered from his injuries is to watch him in another teams uniform.

Now let all the excuses for why this was a smart thing to do flow.....

Thanks for being honest.

I think it was a money move, pure and simple.

Like I have been saying for quite some time, Haden was overrated by many on here.

On the other hand, now that the FO cut him, people are acting like he sucked.

As always, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. I do think he would have been the best corner on this team, but then again, that ain't saying much.

I don't like this move because it reeks of our owner/FO being cheap again.