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So we should sign a bad player just cause he has 1 more year experience then Drango?

I believe Martin plays center (badly) and guard. I believe he will be the reason we will hear for Greco getting cut.

Sterup, but he is inexperienced.

Drango was a OT in College and could
probably finish a game there, but he is not a long term option.

Martin is strickly an interior guy as is Reiter.

My guess is that he will be one of the first guys cut when we claim a player (along with Calvin Pryor, Kai Nacua, and/or Rashard Higgins).

Sterup may be a Tackle/Guard. I think Martin is a Guard/Center.

He has actually started games at OT and there is where we are lacking depth.

My assertion is based on comments made by the coach and when he played, before Durango and he got to sit during game 4. Of course he wasn't drafted by this front office so there is a big chance I'm wrong.

He started at RT for 13 games in 2015 and PFF graded him out as poor. His play was bad and that is why they tried him at OG last season and he was only marginally better. Drango played LT in college and even played some OT for us last year in the pre-season and he also graded out better then Schofield last year, Drango graded out as average with a 70.8 grade and Schofield's grade was 62.4 .

Thats cool...However, I really don't want to trade him for Drango. Was think Sterup.

Whats the deadline for waiver claims again?

Tomorrow sometime. I think we can sign guys to our practice squad tomorrow at 1PM eastern (which means they have cleared waivers).

Thanks

My assertion is based off of comments made by the coach and by playing time. Martin was ahead of Drango on the depth chart and he played first. He also got to sit the 4th preseason game. Now he wasn't drafted by this front office so I am probably wrong.

Noon tomorrow.

Top waiver wire pickups the Cleveland Browns should consider
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Which players could the Sashi Brown and Hue Jackson be thinking about adding to their 53-man roster?
by Chris Pokorny@DawgsByNature Sep 2, 2017, 9:07pm EDT

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/9/2/1...should-consider

The Cleveland Browns are in the enviable position of having first dibs on any and all players on the waiver wire they so choose. If you are unclear on it, think of it this way: if there were 53 players who Cleveland wanted to claim, they could claim 53 players and be guaranteed every single one of them, regardless of what the other 31 teams in the NFL did.

Of course, we won’t see that many waiver claims, but for a team that already appears on the rise, this is a golden opportunity for Sashi Brown and company to strengthen the back-end of their roster with more quality depth. And the talent pool out there could be greater than ever, per Adam Schefter of ESPN:

So, which players could be of interest to Cleveland? Let’s take a look at some of the hot names out there.
WR Austin Carr

I have to make an obligatory, “Get that weak stuff outta here!” reference. The name is already a legend for the Cavaliers, but I promise you that the football Austin Carr is very different. An undrafted free agent for the New England Patriots this year, he worked the slot and was highly-touted.

According to Pro Football Focus, Carr (6-1, 195 lbs) had the most catches (14) this preseason without a drop. This preseason, those 14 catches went for 153 yards and 2 touchdowns. Here is one of those touchdown grabs:

ESPN's Darren Rovell tweeted a few days ago that "NFL scouts should be embarrassed that Austin Carr went undrafted." Mike Garafolo of the NFL Network said, "Many Pats fans here are surprised that Carr was waived, and I'm in the same boat. Impressive preseason and looked good in camp when I was there."
WR Kasen Williams

When Hue Jackson was still with the Bengals, the team tried to sign Kasen Williams (6-1, 219 lbs) as an undrafted free agent. However, he failed a physical and ended up in Seattle instead. He's been a practice squad type player the past two years, but it was believed that he came on strong this preseason, even getting some first-team reps with Seattle's offense.


This preseason, Williams caught 9 passes for 208 yards and 1 touchdown. Here are two catches he had in the preseason finale (clip 1, clip 2). Here is a great one-hand stab he had against CB Xavier Rhodes of the Vikings:

Seahawks CB Richard Sherman was not happy hearing about Williams being cut, replying on Twitter to to the news that “there is no explanation for this!”
OL Michael Schofield

A 3rd round pick in 2014 by the Denver Broncos, Michael Schofield (6-6, 310 lbs) was one of the surprise cuts this weekend (can you imagine the Prison Break references we could make for him?). He started 29 games with Denver. 13 of those starts came in 2015, when he was a right tackle. He also played left tackle in Super Bowl 50. Last year, he transitioned to right guard, started all 16 games, and “flourished,” according to our Broncos affiliate.

Offseason moves by Denver turned Schofield into a key rotational player heading into camp. He reportedly asked to be traded when he felt he didn’t have a place on the roster, so the team parted ways with him. I don’t know if that attitude would be welcome in Cleveland, but his age would make him a much younger replacement for John Greco, at least for this year. Oddly, while a poll on our affiliate indicates that cutting Schofield was the right move, the comments seem to indicate otherwise.
CB Pierre Desir

Could we see the former Browns cornerback return to Cleveland? We all know he was a 4th round pick by the club in 2014 and a high-character family man. He was with Hue Jackson’s Browns in camp in 2016, but didn’t make the roster. He played sparingly in San Diego last year before getting a shot with the Seahawks this offseason. Switch flipped. Desir was the top-ranked cornerback this preseason according to Pro Football Focus, and here’s a note that had on him the other day:

Desir had a great preseason, allowing only four catches in coverage on 17 targets. Perhaps more impressive is he allowed only 4 yards after the catch through the four games.

Here’s an example of him using his length to defend a pass (out of bounds) against the Chiefs in the end zone. Cleveland isn’t in desperate need at cornerback, but there might be more intrigue in a guy like Desir maturing than the likes of Marcus Burley or Darius Hillary.
Other Names

RB Matt Jones (6-2, 232 lbs) - Despite his fumbling issues, he was having a great start to the season last year for Washington before falling out of favor. Former Redskins GM Scot McCloughan just classified Jones “the most criminally underrated RB in the NFL.”
WR Malachi Dupree (6-2, 196 lbs) - Spent camp with the Green Bay Packers (7th round pick). He was one of the players who Cleveland brought on a visit to Berea this year.
WR Robert Davis (6-3, 217 lbs) - Good combination of size and blocking ability, being a 6th round pick by the Redskins this year. Here’s a look at one of his blocks.
OT Max Rich (6-7, 315 lbs) - Backup tackle who was with the New England Patriots (undrafted).
OL Adam Pankey (6-5, 324 lbs) - Played guard and tackle for the Packers (undrafted), but was viewed as a good developmental prospect who was winning one-on-one battles in camp.
OT Dillon Gordon (6-4, 322 lbs) - An undrafted free agent (2016) by the Eagles, he played tight end in college and transitioned to tackle. He was a guy who fans wanted to see make the roster, and he was also getting some work at fullback for the club, something that could help if Danny Vitale (ankle) is out Week 1.
OL Dorian Johnson (6-5, 315 lbs) - A 4th round pick by the Arizona Cardinals in 2017. While he couldn’t play OG for the Browns right away due to his struggles, the team could be interested in seeing if they can develop him.
MLB Joshua Perry (6-4, 253 lbs) - The Ohio State product was a surprise cut by the Los Angeles Chargers (4th round pick in 2016). He had 22 tackles last year, but is currently dealing with a concussion.
MLB Scooby Wright (6-0, 240 lbs) - Another former Brown who was with the Arizona Cardinals this camp, he received positive reviews and finished the preseason with 18 tackles.
OLB Shilique Calhoun (6-4, 249 lbs) - A 3rd round pick by the Raiders in 2016, he only had 9 tackles a year ago and was considered a disappointment. I’m not sure Gregg Williams would be interested in trying to revive a guy’s career without the benefit of an offseason, but he’s still a big name to list.
S Anthony Cioffi (6-0, 205 lbs) - An undrafted free agent out of Rutgers, Cioffi had a solid camp for the Oakland Raiders, but the team only kept four safeties. It’s hard to see Cleveland swapping one undrafted guy for another (Kai Nacua), but you never know.

Who Would You Like to See?

Last year, Cleveland claimed the following five players off waivers: RB George Atkinson, CB Briean Boddy-Calhoun, CB Marcus Burley, DE Tyrone Holmes, and LB Corey Lemonier. Three of them are still with the team, and Boddy-Calhoun in particular appears to have been a real gem.

I would like to see us bring in Alex Boone.

I think he would be a excellent pick-up to replace maybe Higgins.

Schofield plays all the OL positions. Has a ton of starting experience. A good, younger replacement for Greco.

I'm surprised NE cut Carr. Maybe the Dorsett addition pushed him off, but he had been getting major praise all year.

This is a great oportunity to upgrade the bottom third of the roster and also find hidden gems. I would like to bring Desir back. We have to get Carr in here. I would drop Durango and even Johnson for some of these OL guys. And is there any way to make room for Matt Jones? That guy's damn good.

Is Greco still available?

LOL, Vers. I loved Greco and think cutting him was a mistake, but he was long in the tooth. We seem to have dumped him for really green prospects, but the waiver wire has some guys who are in between - still early-to-mid twenties but with some real experience and even pedigrees.

JJ Dielman?

I'm just reading this message board to see if people outside of New England are aware that Austin Carr was waived by the Patriots. Guess so. :-(

I can only go from the feedback in that article - but it sounds like the Browns should absolutely bring in Carr ... which probably means they won't.

And as much as I dislike Sherman - if he rates a WR then I'd want to bring him in too.

Schofield also would seem to be a total no-brainer. Which is why I am sure he will sign with someone else.

Everyone forgets we still have Gordon and he'll probably return soon.

Our WR corps this year could be outstanding... Coleman, Britt, Gordon with a sprinkling of Louis... please and thank you. See you in the playoffs...

I'm a huge Josh fan. Firstly and most importantly I hope he gets his life worked out and straight.

If he ever came back and played he would most definitely have the potential to be great again ... he's young and physically gifted. But there is a long way to go before he ever sees the field again in a Browns jersey. . . .

We only kept 5 WR. I think that it is more likely that we add a 6th, rather than a replacement for one of the five.

Austin Carr from nfl.com

Strengths
Highly competitive. Former walk-on with very good work ethic and confidence. Plays with toughness. Willing to make his mark over middle of the field. Extremely focused when ball is in the air. Snatches the ball out in front of his frame with strong hands. "Touch it, catch it" target. Able to make the combat catches in traffic. Shows ability to drop feet in bounds to secure last-second catch on sideline. Routes are run with consistent pace and rarely gives defensive backs a snap off. Uses good positioning and leverage in his routes. Finds optimal space in zones when working underneath. Effort stalk blocker who latches with inside hands and attempts to sustain in space.

Weaknesses
Doesn't show enough sink into his breaks for sharp, angular cuts in his routes. Effort player who lacks plus athleticism and quick twitch. Process of slowing into top of route and opening to quarterback is slightly prolonged giving defenders a chance to match. Missing light feet and acceleration to uncover out of route breaks. Will sit and wait on throws rather than working back to them aggressively. Below average creativity as run-after-catch option. Not an NFL-caliber vertical threat. Will have to prove he can shake free from press and uncover against tight man.

Draft Projection
PFA

Bottom Line
Self-made man whose productivity on the field this season matched up with his talent and productivity off the field. Carr is a big slot receiver who is best left to working on the first and second levels in routes that are more fluid and less angular. He's tough enough to work the middle of the field and secure throws in traffic, but scouts question whether or not he's athletic enough to get open. He's a likely undrafted free agent with an outside shot to make a roster.

eh... I bet it'll happen sooner than you think.

Unfortunately the following suspension for something along the lines of taking an unauthorized antibiotic for a sinus infection (or something equally ridiculous) would probably quickly follow.

yep, I want him to be one of our pickups for sure

TJ Ward to sign with the Bucs is the rumor I just heard

T.J. Ward - DB - Buccaneers

Buccaneers agreed to a one-year, $5 million contract with SS T.J. Ward, formerly of the Broncos.

Denver cut Ward to make room for promising youngsters Justin Simmons and Will Parks to play more snaps, but there are no indications Ward is washed up. Still only 30 years old, Ward forced five fumbles and tallied three sacks for the Broncos over the last two seasons. Ward is an imposing tone setter at strong safety, albeit a coverage liability. He should still start Week 1 for Tampa Bay.

Related: Broncos

Source: James Palmer on Twitter Sep 3 - 12:59 AM

thanks diam

So glad he's not a Steeler with Benedict Haden.

Can't blame the guy for wanting to make a living. After all, we dumped him - not the opposite.

Tom Pelissero‏Verified account @TomPelissero 22s23 seconds ago
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#Saints claimed WR Austin Carr and QB Taysom Hill, source said.

Damn. I really wanted him.

Yeah, we passed on Carr for Williams it appears

Saints claimed WR Austin Carr and QB Taysom Hill, source said.

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/904385130533412865

Notables: Chargers claimed Michael Schofield (Broncos); Colts claimed RB Matt Jones (Redskins); Browns claimed WR Kasen Williams (Seahawks).