DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Tailgate Forum Stupidity of Ezekiel Elliott

This tells me you did not read the articles. They w/held evidence. That is wrong no matter how you slice it.

They did not let the lead investigator testify. They squashed the reports from the lead investigator. The lead investigator was the only person to talk to the accuser. The lead investigator determined that the accuser was not credible. The NFL ignored her reports and didn't allow her to be part of the decision making process.

Lisa Friel has a history of wrongdoings. She has w/held evidence in the past and did so again. They did not make Zeke's camp aware of certain information despite the fact that they should have.

This is a no brainer. The NFL was wrong!

They framed Zeke because of the possible public relations backlash.

And Grimm.................you defended Art "Freaking" Briles, but are assigning guilt to Zeke? Amazing!

No, I'm questioning the credibility of a self-admitted drug user, who was videotaped exposing a young lady's chest in a separate incident, is/was known to get a little wild, and apparently has sex tapes floating around out there to be blackmailed with.

I'm saying there is probably more to the story that we aren't hearing, just like I did with Briles. I'm sorry I was willing to let due process run it's course before declaring someone guilty.

I heard on XM radio NFL Channel that it is still widely known the Elliot is still partying hard quite often. Has not learned any lessons yet. Having NFLPA and the Cowboys continue to excuse his behavior and support him just continue to enable him. There is no doubt he will end up soon as another Josh Gordon.

I clicked through at least a couple of the articles.

Did they withhold information? Or just not include it in certain documents? Did Elliott's people have access to the accuser? Could they not have presented there own information about her credibility? Should an investigator have a part in the decision making process or should they just present their employer the information? Did the investigator find the witness not credible or did she question her credibility? Did they not let the lead investigator testify or did they not ask the investigator to testify?

Framing involves creating evidence, I haven't seen anything to indicate that.

Here's an article that paints Friel in a different light:
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Maybe she chose not to include questioning the accuser's credibility because it was an opinion and she doesn't like to show skepticism to potential victims because it could lead them to not report future incidents.

I don't know that I would call it being framed, but it is odd the lead investigator wasn't allowed in the meetings.

I might call it being railroaded.

NFL says that Zeke is going to play Sunday.

Things are a bit unclear right now, but he is playing in week 1.

So he's suspended 6 games but playing week 1? How does that make sense...

I think, but am not positive, is because the ruling didn't take place until today [yesterday was Labor Day.]

The NFL is crooked. They certainly conspired against him. They are not going to want to admit that, thus they upheld the 6-game suspension.

Zeke's camp are hoping that the Federal judge rules against the NFL when the truth comes out. The bad thing for them is that court has previously ruled that the NFL can enforce their own decisions as a business.

Their only hope is that the Federa

l judge is repulsed by how inappropriate the NFL was in this matter. I get that most people on this board don't like Zeke or the Cowboys, but what happened was a terrible injustice that was fueled for purely public relations perceptions.

Btw--------In addition to Zeke's ex-girlfriend admitting to trying about blackmailing him, she has also said she had sex w/one of Zeke's teammates, WR Lucky Whitehead.

Railroaded by the NFL!

I hate the cowboys but I think this case of domestic violence is crap.... I can see them suspending him for a multitude of small infractions - the weed shop, grabbing a woman's boob at a parade, etc... But if it's based on the domestic violence case I wouldn't trust the accuser... I typically side with the accuser,but this case sounds more like someone trying to get a money grab

What does that have to do with whether he best her ass or not? Sounds like motive to me

Not that you'll understand, but when you add up all the things that have been posted in these recent articles and she admitted to wanting to blackmail him by telling a lie, it has to do w/the accuser not being a credible witness and the NFL ignoring that because they wanted to avoid negative PR feedback.

Once again, I am not saying that Zeke is innocent of the charges. I am simply saying he was railroaded by the NFL.

So hes not innocent of the charges, yet you are defending a woman beater? Seems about your level of class.

Thanks for the usual insult, but that is not what I said.

I said I do not know if he is innocent or guilty. And neither do you.

Has he been convicted of beating her? Hell, he wasn't even charged by the police of beating her.

The NFL is doing this due to PR. Keep your head in the sand and refuse to keep an open mind. It explains some things.

JMHO, problems of "black culture"- he said/ she said...and both are losers as citizens- Elliott admits to drug use, has entitled mentality-do anything I want cuz I'm star....the "lady" will do anything for drugs/money/fame...both, just pillars of society....please checkout Hey Jackass on internet to understand why blacks might be profiled....blacks killing blacks for years like it's the wild west....sad....But, remember Black Lives Matter....unless you are black and killing a black....so sad....and it never ends.

I think you are full of crap. This kind of thing goes on in all cultures and is not indicative of blacks. I have many black friends and colleagues that have great relationships. Judging people by their race is ignorant.

You are just as bad as the other side that I just left on another thread.

You're all bigoted and refuse to judge individuals as individuals. Assigning blame or praising people due to their race, culture, sex, religion, etc is wrong.

And I don't care what side you are on. You're wrong.

And I also don't care that I am pissing off the haters on both sides. In fact, I am happy to do it because y'all disgust me.

Side note: Most people that I meet and know are not so hateful as the posters I have recently spoken with. Most of us want to get along. We respect each other until the other loses that respect. We want to get along. We are not part of the problem and hopefully, the majority can overcome the idiocy and hate of the few!

Tiffany Thompson is white. Not that it matters. Race has nothing to do with acting like that, prime example - Johnny Manziel.

That's gold.

If the league is really "withholding information", I'm guessing it is the sex tape. They probably bought it up as soon as they learned of its existence. They probably aren't using it because there is no way that looks good for them. I'm not sure if Zeke's defense team is almost playing chicken with the league or what. It's hard to believe that the accuser/victim hasn't sold the tape based on the blackmail conversation, which leads me to believe that she has, but to someone that doesn't want it released.

j.c:


https://twitter.com/FantasyLabsNFL/status/906280443980468224

This is a DFS site I follow and it was the first thing that popped up in my search, but I'm guessing other sites are reporting the TRO on Elliot as well.

So glad I picked up zeke in the 7th round of my fantasy draft....

Here is an article about the NFL's shameful tactics in the Elliot case:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/even-nfl-be...-033100078.html

Ezekiel Elliott's suspension reinstated as judge dissolves injunction

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1410854

Dallas Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott had his temporary restraining order dissolved by New York judge Katherine Failla Monday, reinstating his six-game suspension for domestic abuse


The judge found the NFLPA failed to show a substantial question that warranted the extraordinary remedy of injunctive relief, and that Elliott had enough opportunity to challenge the league's ruling in arbitration hearings, according to The Dallas Morning News' Kate Hairopoulos.

Elliott has 24 hours before the suspension takes its full form, allowing him the option to appeal to the second circuit court, which could potentially come back to the fifth circuit court, according to Jane Slater of NFL Network.

As it stands, Elliott will miss the next six games, but will be eligible to return Week 15 against the Oakland Raiders and play the final three weeks of the season.

Elliott has produced 690 rushing yards and 210 yards receiving with eight total touchdowns this season through seven games. Alfred Morris is expected to replace him in the starting lineup.

Trade Crow to Dallas for their backup qb.

they might go after NE's Gillislee

Goodall needs to go!

I agree. Too many wishy washy, inconsistent decisions. Not just in this case, but as a general trend out of the office.

In his defense, it seems that owners can dictate too much these days. It's like they don't want a commish who can actually rule over the game. After Rozell, it seems they wanted weakened oversight.