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150K on a single stock buy is not a lot? Really?

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Not if you have a lot more than 150K wink


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Exactly my point. If you're dropping 150K on a single stock buy, what do you actually have?

According to 40, he's got 100 shares of Berkshire Hathaway so he's a multi-millionaire.

But hey, if that's the case, I gladly eat crow and apologize for my accusation. Instead of being a jerk and a liar, he's simply a jerk.

My bad.

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So if you are young, start investing now. Then someday some kid will harass you for spending your money.

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Originally Posted By: CanadaDawg
Exactly my point. If you're dropping 150K on a single stock buy, what do you actually have?

According to 40, he's got 100 shares of Berkshire Hathaway so he's a multi-millionaire.

But hey, if that's the case, I gladly eat crow and apologize for my accusation. Instead of being a jerk and a liar, he's simply a jerk.

My bad.


According to that post of yours I am waiting for Rocky's like to turn to love too. rofl

Start investing but don't throw it all in now. Wait for a downturn and then start adding gradually, over time. It's called Dollar Cost Averaging. You will build a nice nest egg by the time you are old like me.

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We should repeal and replace.......... North Korea.

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We should repeal and replace.......... North Korea.


We may have to. willynilly

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Like I said the other day, there sure are a lot of rich guys on dawgtalkers.net Browns board... Multi Million Dollar Business Owners, Stock Market Gurus, etc...

Blows my mind how much they talk about their wealth too. wink
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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
So if you are young, start investing now. Then someday some kid will harass you for spending your money.


Not sure which is older 40, your age or your BS! tongue


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So if you are young, start investing now. Then someday some kid will harass you for spending your money.


Don't let him full you Canada, he has a sugar daddy. wink


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Well said Jimmy Kimmel, well said.:



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The president has a 43 percent approval rating, according to a NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released Thursday, which is 3 points higher than it was last month.

That makes 3 percent more people who laugh at your foolishness. thumbsup

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This is what healthcare could and should be here.





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CanadaDog already told us it is a 22 week wait to see a doctor in Canada unless you go to the clinics where you pay for it yourself! Then you get in right away!
Socialism makes you wait but Capitalism is quick.

That is what you want for us?

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i understand you don't like raising the quality of life for citizens and instead enjoy shooting them instead, but the majority of americans want the #1 country in the world to start acting like it.


7 years ago i had a pinched nerve in my back. I couldn't even stand up straight. Under government controlled healthcare I'd be waiting 6-12 months to get the surgery I needed. How is that improving quality of life?

Single payer is government rationing of healthcare. Seeing the way our government runs, it baffles me that people think this is a good idea.


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Consider our neighbors in Canada. In the Fraser Institute’s annual report, “Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada,” the Canadian think tank says the median wait time in 2013 hit 18.2 weeks, three days longer than in 2012. The average wait time for orthopedic surgery, in particular, reached 39.6 weeks for treatment, while patients waited an average 17.4 weeks for an appointment with a neurosurgeon. During this time, people were suffering. [u]Some even died. And yet all of this is happening in a country where healthcare is considered a right that confers duties on taxpayers. Can the suffering that flows from rationing be considered compassionate? If treating healthcare as a right has these sorts of perverse consequences, shouldn’t that lead us to question all such rights talk?
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Highlighted bit is falsehood. Anyone requiring urgent care receives it right away. Sure, you may wait to get your cataracts gone or your wonky knee replaced, but if your life is in danger, you are treated there and then with no questions asked.



What if it's something that you don't know is life threatening? My friends daughter had a brain tumor. Started off as a headache. Didn't know it was cancer until she had an mri. But a headache is not life threatening, so she would've had to wait months to be seen. By that time, who knows how far the cancer would have spread.


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you would be waiting that long here in the states?

you got a link for that?


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No, wait a minute. Trump has a huge portfolio and it isn't helping him with geography or healthcare.


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it's all good.

sometimes i have to ask my wife, who english is a second language, to translate what trump is saying for me.


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you would be waiting that long here in the states?

you got a link for that?


a link for what? I'm talking hypothetically under a single payer system. Do you really think there won't be wait times? Average wait time in Canada is 6 months. If I have to wait at least 6 months for the procedure, in the mean time I can't even get out of bed, how does that improve quality of life?


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there are always wait times, even in our past and current system.

how come guys like you always fall back on the worst and don't even bother to acknowledge the positives?

it's like talking yourself into thinking nothing but the negatives when it comes to marriage, yet won't acknowledge the positives. or any other similar situation.

imma have to wait for procedure times too eventually, so please don't act or assume you're the only person who has to worry about that, or is talking about that. it's an issue with us liberals too, but nothing in life comes without risk, and wait times can be a fixable problem. it's not permanent.


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You still haven't answered my question. I want to know where the improved quality of life is.

I'm not assuming I'm the only one that would have to wait. I'm simply using my own experience as an example. Lots of people will have to wait. Which is why I am questioning your claim of improved quality of life.


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"Because the overall economic costs are lower, the average person would save more money on premiums than they lose in higher taxes. In addition to the lower costs, because the insurance is delivered as a public entitlement, people would not lose coverage when they lose their job or when their income takes a dive. This means that the insurance actually functions the way it is supposed to: as seamless economic security against ill health."

https://www.usnews.com/debate-club/is-single-payer-health-care-a-good-idea

QoF upgrade.

It doesn't seem that you've done much research on single payer. I recommend you look at multiple sources with pros and cons, then formulate your opinion.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
CanadaDog already told us it is a 22 week wait to see a doctor in Canada unless you go to the clinics where you pay for it yourself! Then you get in right away!
Socialism makes you wait but Capitalism is quick.

That is what you want for us?

Baloney! notallthere


Twist it 40... Canada said if your life is in danger (which cover most serious issues) your are treated immediately. The long wait is for elective surgeries like getting the fat on your butt lipoed so you can fit into one of those electric grocery store scooters again...


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Am I the only one that realizes we are talking about insurance, not healthcare. Everyone ALREADY GETS healthcare. If you walk into a ER, they treat you. That is HealthCare, you guys are talking about insurance.

Funny how they use terms to make things sound more drastic, no?


Try walking into a ER and tell them you need your chemo meds. Watch how quick they don't treat you.


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I don't think they want Insurance or Healthcare.
Seems many are looking for Welfare.


It's what a gov't administered healthcare system will run more like... food stamps, section 8, etc. It won't look like true insurance like auto or home.

But it already has been more about subsidizing medical bills than it is insuring against a catastrophe anyway


Clearly you have no idea what government Health insurance is like do you?

For years, all I heard from the Right is how horrible Medicare is! It was going to go broke, the wait times are crazy long, not everyone takes that insurance.,

Well, Government Run Medicare is just about the best insurance I've had in the last 15 years. In the past I've had Blue Cross and Aetna and a few other name brands. This is better.

Add to it a good supplimental plan (I chose the best plan from Medical Mutual) and BINGO..You are covered very well.

I go to my doctor, get service quickly, and thus far, since February I've had several minor procedures and a big one and not a freakin dime (out side of my premiums) have come out of my pocket. By the way, I do all my business with the Cleveland Clinic Foundation... One of the best health care providers in the world.

Prior to turning 65, I thought, this is scary.. Then I get there and frankly, It blows anyone who says that
"GOVERNMENT RUN HEATH INSURANCE" is awful right out of the water. It's a lie, a flat out lie to say that Government Run Health Insurance is anything but spectacular.

You couldn't have been further from being correct.


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Am I the only one that realizes we are talking about insurance, not healthcare. Everyone ALREADY GETS healthcare. If you walk into a ER, they treat you. That is HealthCare, you guys are talking about insurance.

Funny how they use terms to make things sound more drastic, no?


Try walking into a ER and tell them you need your chemo meds. Watch how quick they don't treat you.
Funny, cause with insurance you still have to pay for those meds, so if you are not paying your share, regardless of insurance or not, whats the difference?

And depending on the severity of the cancer, you may or may not be working. If you are not working due to a sever cancer, then you would be on disability/medi-care and receiving that to pay for it. if you are working, you should be receiving health insurance. You see, the issue isn't about the ones that are truly sick, they already have options - my problem with ACA is that it takes away my OPTION of not wanting that insurance and forcing me to purchase a product.

The ACA was never about insurance or "healthcare" as some put it. Its about redistribution of wealth, and control over people.

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Am I the only one that realizes we are talking about insurance, not healthcare. Everyone ALREADY GETS healthcare. If you walk into a ER, they treat you. That is HealthCare, you guys are talking about insurance.

Funny how they use terms to make things sound more drastic, no?


Try walking into a ER and tell them you need your chemo meds. Watch how quick they don't treat you.
Funny, cause with insurance you still have to pay for those meds, so if you are not paying your share, regardless of insurance or not, whats the difference?

And depending on the severity of the cancer, you may or may not be working. If you are not working due to a sever cancer, then you would be on disability/medi-care and receiving that to pay for it. if you are working, you should be receiving health insurance. You see, the issue isn't about the ones that are truly sick, they already have options - my problem with ACA is that it takes away my OPTION of not wanting that insurance and forcing me to purchase a product.

The ACA was never about insurance or "healthcare" as some put it. Its about redistribution of wealth, and control over people.


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Funny, cause with insurance you still have to pay for those meds, so if you are not paying your share, regardless of insurance or not, whats the difference?


With our old insurance I didn't pay a dime for my meds after we hit our $750 out of pocket limit (which we hit in Jan, or Feb the last few years) Thanks to my wife's local government job selling out and privitising we lost our health insurance. or should I say I lost mine. She still has cobra, but do to the laws I was not allowed to continue with our insurance since I was eligible for medicare. Been fighting with them for almost 2 months and I still can't even get a COST for my drugs out of them, $500, 1,000, 3,000 for a 28 day supply nobody there can even give me an answer.

Medicare also has an out of pocket limit that will cost me 9 to 10,000 per year out of pocket. That's on top of the monthly premium, so don't tell me we have options. Our only option is to bend over and take it up the backside before we die.


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oh well now that YOU say so....


Says the irresponsible parent that wants to be able to opt out of buying Healthcare Insurance for his family and self without paying a tax. A tax that goes towards helping those responsible folks who do want it.


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What are you so jealous about dude? If you invest all your life, 150K isnt that much.


Who would be jealous of BS? Nobody that has that kind of money goes around bragging about it. 40 is just full of it and is trying to look important. Nobody takes him seriously.


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Before Obamacare people went to the ER to get treated if they had no health insurance, driving cost factors up and abusing the purpose of the ER, which is for acute/immediate need only. The ER won't treat chronic illnesses for you, so "Go to the ER" is not the answer.

To me the biggest problem is the insurance side. Health Insurance Companies don't want to pay full price for services, so Hospitals jack up fake prices. This is how a $20 neck brace or $1 IV drip bag ends up billing at $100-$200. Then the health insurance company says "we only pay $50 for that neck brace" and the hospital says "heck ya" because they still make money. And we "feel" like we get a deal because we saw the original figure on the EOB. But if you have no insurance, the hospital charges you that crazy full price amount!! These numbers are all hidden by the hospitals chargemaster:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chargemaster

To me the chargemaster is the real bullcrap here because it means if I have no insurance I'm not paying real prices for health services, I'm paying fake jacked up prices because I'm not in the "insurance" game.

This is an informative (if sometimes depressing) watch from frontline 10 years ago about our "pre obamacare" system: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/sickaroundtheworld/ What's interesting is how different each socialized system is...

I'm not the biggest ACA fan, but our existing system is broken ACA or not, and we will NOT improve our healthcare if we repeal ACA because the underlying broken aspects of our healthcare system will still be in place.


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As usual you talk out of your... notallthere
You have no clue of my wealth. notallthere

I will always discuss investing with anyone who might be interested, especially the young. They have a real opportunity to make big money in their lifetimes with only a little effort.

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oh well now that YOU say so....


Says the irresponsible parent that wants to be able to opt out of buying Healthcare Insurance for his family and self without paying a tax. A tax that goes towards helping those responsible folks who do want it.
So I am irresponsible parent that works and pays for my sons health insurance premiums? As opposed to the responsible parent that has 5 kids with no job? What a dumb, ignorant, and vile statement that was.

You sir, shall need help. BTW, I didn't see any links or anything that back up your statement that it was BS or an explanation as to why it was. but go ahead keyboard warrior, fight on!

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You accuse someone else of being a keyboard warrior that doesn't supply links?

Pot meet kettle.


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I'm not the biggest ACA fan, but our existing system is broken ACA or not, and we will NOT improve our healthcare if we repeal ACA because the underlying broken aspects of our healthcare system will still be in place.


I agree the system is broken, do you think they are going to change the prices if they know EVERYONE is required to have insurance. Instead of making it more lucrative for them, we should be looking at ways to curb cost.

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So I am irresponsible parent that works and pays for my sons health insurance premiums?


Ok explain this statement you made in a previous post....

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Do you see that GIANT WORD "OPTION"......good lord.

I choose to pay for my insurance. Doesn't mean I still should not have the OPTION to not purchase if I did not want too. The issue I have with the ACA is the government can force you purchase insurance, and then fine you for not doing so, what is stopping them from lets say ...forcing you to go to church, or forcing you pay a tax for sanctuary cities to provide for illegals, or etc etc. It is a slippery slope.

Would you like a thesaurus and map the next time someone post something so you can understand a little bit better?

And again, you still have not even mustered a an actual response.

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