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I believe in second chances too. Fourth, fifth and sixth chances? Not so much.

I believe in as many extra chances as you give yourself.
If we were limited, I would quite literally be dead.

Jesus said to forgive 7x70...

If he was a pilot, a cop, a surgeon.. or somebody who was responsible for other people's lives and well being and he was being negligent in the performance of his duties.. hell yea, I'd limit his chances because the risk is great to other people.

But he's a football player.. a wide receiver... run down the field, catch the ball, run toward the big yellow sticks in the ground, spike the ball... that's his job. And with or without his personal issues, he was good at it. He's being punished for failing to follow rules that, quite literally, have NOTHING to do with him doing his job.

That is not true.

I'm typically a "rules are the rules" kind of guy, but I also usually run on the side of it doesn't hurt anyone then it should mostly be ok. I agree, some professions shouldn't allow certain things, but football loads players full of pain killers and such, so I don't understand why weed is such a huge deal.

Dude was late to meetings and practices. He missed practices and meetings. He was out of shape. He was suspended by the team for showing up late to a game. He was overweight when he came back. He had some sort of upper leg injury. He dogged it his last season here.

Let's not act like none of his issues have effected his performances.

Right. He has issues. And the team reserves the right to suspend/fine him for those things. None of those are why the NFL suspended him. He was suspended for substances.


He is far from perfect, but I personally think he is more likely to improve those issues around the team than away from it.

He has issues that is preventing him from being around the team. He can't stay clean. I'm betting we cut him loose as soon as we possibly can.

If we were in a position (with our current talent level) where we could walk blue-chip talent out the door because they're too much of a headache, then I would agree with you. Unfortunately, we're not.

I'm as frustrated with this never-ending JG saga as the next guy, but you're telling me that we're supposed to cut him, and then resume raiding the waiver wire and other teams' practice squads for anything resembling WR talent? That doesn't make a whole lotta sense.

Per source, Browns WR Josh Gordon has not yet applied for reinstatement.

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/915245985177198593

WHY????????

Josh Gordon - WR - Browns

Pro Football Talk reports Josh Gordon (suspended) has not applied for reinstatement.
Gordon is reportedly out of rehab, and there were rumors floating around last month he would get reinstated. He has yet to apply, however, and it is far from a guarantee he will gain clearance from the NFL even if he does. We continue to guess he will not play this season.

Source: Pro Foot

No reinstatement application from Josh Gordon, yet
Posted by Mike Florio on October 3, 2017, 12:53 PM EDT

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Browns receive Josh Gordon ended a 90-day rehab stint last month. He is eligible to apply for reinstatement to the NFL. Per a league source, that hasn’t happened yet.

Gordon hasn’t filed yet even though former Olympian Tim Montgomery, who has been assisting Gordon, has said, “He’s coming. . . I think he’s going to be there this season.”

Even if Gordon files this week, the league has no deadline or timetable for resolving a reinstatement request. And since Gordon currently doesn’t have an agent to help Gordon through the process of filing his petition, the application may not move as quickly as it otherwise would.

Gordon, a second-round pick in the 2012 supplemental draft, last played in 2014, appearing in five games and catching 24 passes for 303 yards. In 2013, Gordon generated 1,646 receiving yards in 14 games.

It’s a shame that his talent has been wasted, both by his inability to comply with the league’s rules regarding off-field substance use and abuse — and by the league’s insistence to police the private lives of employees for things completely unrelated to their unemployment.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/03/no-reinstatement-application-from-josh-gordon-yet/

Man, I'd be chomping at the BIT to suit up in Brown and Orange again!

maybe he doesn't feel he is ready to deal with the depression of suiting up for the browns.

He also might not be in shape. He was just in rehab for three months.

Since the Browns can't cut him, I'm not telling you that at all. I'm betting the Browns cut him loose if he's ever reinstated, which I doubt is going to happen anytime soon. And why does he even deserve to take a roster spot since he's never shown loyalty to the Browns by staying clean for more than a few mo's. As it stands JG is NFL history, you all need to get over that. Besides he'll never be what he was year #1. And he showed exactly that the last time he played a game. And when was that again? 2014-15. Hell I can't even remember that far back anymore.

probably because he is already high.

We could put out trade feelers, see if anyone is as stupid as we were to take a known drug addict...any offer over an Carl's Jr cheese burger should be taken.....GO Browns!!!

Yeah, we should re-rash Gordon threads until 2020.

I am curious as to why all the Josh Gordon lovers are ignoring the fact that he hasn't even applied for reinstatement?

Are y'all going to blame the NFL for this one, too? LOL

It could be for any number of reasons. It could also not be true (he has, in fact, applied for reinstatement and it's working its way through the bureaucracy. Who knows (other than Mr. A Source)?

Or, it could be because Gordon is getting high again. Right?

Who knows why he hasn't? It's been a few days... at this point I'm barely paying attention to JG.

"He's about 231 (pounds) right now, and he's been working out there, so it won't take him long," Montgomery said at the time. "He came in here (around Sept. 1) and he was out of shape and hadn't caught a football in two months, but that football didn't hit the ground."

On my phone will post link when I get home.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/10/josh_gordon_hasnt_yet_applied.html

The top comment for that article was, "So he hasn't caught a football in two months. How's that any different than Britt?"

you left out the part where he says that not one football hit the ground.

I don't recall comparing the two.

If he comes back then he is most likely our best WR.

If he doesn't then no loss.

Josh Gordon - WR - Browns

It remains unclear if the Browns would welcome suspended WR Josh Gordon back to the 53-man roster if he's reinstated.

Per the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the team has been "noncommittal" on the matter. Gordon can apply for reinstatement at any time. He checked out of rehab a week ago. It's unknown how the NFL might decide when/if Gordon applies for reinstatement. Gordon turned 26 in April. The Browns are ludicrously thin at receiver.

Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer Oct 3 - 7:10 PM

I can't help but wonder if the decision behind Josh Gordon not yet applying for reinstatement is because he will have a place with the Browns, and he's already aware of it.

Given our struggles at receiver, even without the Coleman injury, the pressures for Josh to start will be immediate upon reinstatement. Taking a little time prior to the completion of the paperwork could give him time to brush up on the playbook and continue to get in NFL shape.

If he comes back too soon and isn't yet ready to play, regardless if he is seeing snaps or not, it is a lose-lose for multiple reasons.

If our WRs were actually performing, then josh Gordon could very well be cut.

But at this point, I’m willing to bet the FO is PRAYING that Gordon gets reinstated soon, cause his sins will be forgiven if that means they don’t have to give Britt this many snaps.

I'm not exactly a Gordon lover, but I'm not ignoring it at all, thus the reason I'm on this thread.

But if anyone is ignoring it, it's probably because they are tired of hearing about it.

If something happens, we'll deal with it then...

Who is ignoring it? Hell, what is there to ignore?
Seriously.
Do you feel we should be trumpeting something to this effect loudly for all to hear, widely across the land or something? Just what is it you feel someone should have posted about this.

No you weren't comparing the two but I saw that comment and just had to repost it, it cracked me up. I hope JG comes back too, but I'm not holding my breath. I learned the 1/st/2nd/3rd time about his ways, so.... you know (sighs).

That article also alluded to him not having an agent, which will make things take longer, as he doesn't have anyone to help him cut through the red tape.

Long story short, he doesn't have his ducks in a row. He wasn't prepared to push through to his return. Pretty dumb to not be ready for this, but far from the dumbest thing he's done.

Couldn't one of you guys who use Twitter just ask him why he didn't apply for reinstatement yet?