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I was wrong on Hogan vs Kizer. Kizer needs to sit and Hogan looks decent.

Hue is actively hurting the team with mismanagement.

With any other coach, we could have 3 wins by now. Hue needs to go!!! Like last year!!!!

It was almost like Hue was trying to make Hogan look bad. 3-15 ALL GO... Go for it on fourth and 2+ instead of the FG?

I not sure Hogan is long time answer but if he started all year we would have at least 3 wins

Hue made an irrational decision, and it (possibly) cost his team the game.

This game was winnable.

Once again I say keep Hue and force him to get an OC.

Don't even care about or want to talk about Hue Jackson. From this half game I watched I take away that the Kizer era MUST be temporarily put on hold.
Hogan hasn't had alot of time to develop himself and at this point I see more promise in him than Kizer.

There is not one reason to keep Hue.

You could say the front office cost us this game as well with the two missed field goals. I can promise u Hue didn't make the decision to cut Cody and keep the rookie. ( for less money )

We can't do that! Hue has an ego that is a cancer to this team!!!

You are right, but it is a lot easier to fire one guy for the team's performance.

Line right up,quick snap count,draw penalty,or run outside.Not going anywhere anyhow.The time out ruined the play and gave the defense time to tegroup.

And u can now see why teams CAN'T win without a real QB.. We could have 5 Myles Garretts and it would make ZERO difference. The QB has the ball HALF the game and Myles had about 10 snaps before he was hobbling around.

Postgame thoughts?

I'm not bothering next Sunday.

We also can’t blow this team up again after 2 years. Who TF is going to come coach this team in the state that it’s in right now?!? Sorry to [censored] on your pity party but the FO and the coaching staff is married to each other for at least 2-3 more years or Haslam might as well just sell the team.

dunno what to even say anymore.

Ain't that right. Snake bit? Bad luck? Cursed? Ineptitude? Sabotaged?

You can hardly wrap your mind around it...

All we need to fix this is to draft a kicker #1 overall next year...

I say this with every coach we hire that also wants to be the OC. I hate it. The HC needs to focus on the overall game strategy. Trying to call plays, make sure the right players are in, clock management, replay decision etc. It's just too much for one person. If you want to be the one that call the plays then hire someone to do those other duties.

Agreed

I would think that Hue would be involved in all player movement plus I doubt that Parkey was cut due to money considering that he and Gonzalez were set to make almost the same amount. Parkey's contract yearly avg. is $645,000 Gonzalez's is $622,289

I liked the way the team played except for Kizer and the Kicker.
And the play calling.

Everybody else did fine.

D looked good for most of the game.

I dont want to see Kizer again this year.
I like him, but he is broken.
Sit him, and let him learn.
Hogan gives us a better chance, at this point.

Is Jackson fired yet?

I just watched the rest of the game. Great TD run by Duke towards the end!

We might have very well won this game if Kizer hadn't started. I don't know if Hogan is the answer or this isn't just the Kelly Holcomb effect, but Hogan is a better QB than Kizer. Period.

I think Duke Johnson could be our Darren Sproles. He is our only weapon on offense.

Well I'm at least happy that others are starting to see that Hogan > Kizer... I've been saying it since preseason.

Another week. Another Loss.

- Garrett looked great getting to the QB. Unfortunately, he looked like he was hobbling later in the game.

- Peppers was finally playing more in the box.

- Njoku made some tremendous catches

- Ogbah and McCourty had nice games.

- Ogunjobi had a nice game.

- Kasen Wiliams with good effort all day.

- Zane Gonzalez. Oof.

- Duke Johnson makes things happen.

- Tough day for Hue.

- At this point, our QBs leave a lot to be desired.

- 11 more of these damn games to go.

Involved ? Yea, I'm sure he says who he wants then the Front office tells him who he gets. Like with with Hayden.. GMAFB

And there's NO shame in it if it's so! The biggest travesty would be exiting this season NOT knowing if either one or the other is the answer. Even if we see nothing from both we have our clear cut path.

This crap must be resolved.

The ONLY way its resolved is if one of us hits the MegaMillions for a billion dollars and buys the team to make OUR picks.:)

As much as I like DK he's not ready. I was against starting him this year and said as much. He's regressed and I hope his confidence isn't shot. We could easily have 2 wins right now. This game should have been a win. Right now KH gives us our best chance to win so let him play. I've been frustrated with this team over the years but none worse than right now.

our defense was very good IMO until they ran out of gas

our offense is the worst I've seen in a long time

Kizer isn't ready, nor is he the answer

Garrett needs to be shut down again

Hue Jackson said if he thought it would give team better chance to win, he would let someone else call plays. Points to execution

https://twitter.com/NateUlrichABJ/status/917124116846702593

I am OK with that. Change the routes and combinations. Hue can't seem rational in the Red Zone. Throw the middle. Repeat plays that work. Stop the stretch crap. He said he felt we "were knocking them off the ball." Hence the inside run on 4th and goal. Fail. Badly!

His judgment stinks. No middle routes. Calls get laughable in Red Zone. Kizer doesn't get it. OC here would help. Hogan brought much more pressure to bear than Kizer. I would like to start Kizer. He is just a liability and a turnover machine.

Physical freaks usually have a chink in their armor. Garrett looks to be his base. College and so far pros showing it's his Ankles and feet. That's bad and I hope I'm wrong.

This team is garbage.

Hue Jackson admitted he was egged on by defensive players to eschew FG and go for lead on ill-fated fourth-down play.

https://twitter.com/TonyGrossi/status/917136503737856000

Zane is hated on by the entire team and rightfully so. If he's not replaced by next game, wow.