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So they were not torn down and destroyed as the ones that have recently been?
Links please

I give Obama credit for having the most corrupt Administration in American History.

So what? Your boys are in charge. Children in a daycare center is running the country and you all blame the only entity that can't do a thing about it. Good luck getting your children on capitol hill to buckle down and get to work on Jobs, HC, taxes, NK, Iraq, Isis, Iran, and equality in America.

Nixon.

Doesnt even compare.

Why didn't the black people protest the war statues during Jim Crow South? Why are they now against slavery? Why aren't more people pro slavery?

There are none. Boycott means I don't use goods or services from companies.

Why are you so pro-slavery?

eh, both parties did the same thing for ACA and the plan they put forward on the R side.

I don't like ACA because you have to buy it or pay a fine, take that out, my eyes would have been open to the rest of it. Yet we know its not working, so its mute point.

I give credit to Obama for stabilizing the economy, he didn't really grow it. GDP shows that.

Trump policies have opened the door for business', plain and simple, you see that in the market. the market is daily - it reflects real time issues, the market has been soaring since the night of the election. that's trump, Obama has nothing to do with the market today.

Why are you so pro-slavery? I am the one bringing awareness to the shameful slavery happening today in Africa, you seem to ignore it over destruction of statues.

Then why are you so busy attacking people who boycott companies that support slavery? It sounds to me like you're bragging about slavery. It's rather disgusting, but expected coming from a smack shack troll.

Better than being an angry Palus Politicus troll.

You just can't see blacks are hurting blacks more than whites are hurting blacks.

that's not accurate. Obama grew the economy. the GDP absolutely shows that. the unemployment rate was in the 4's at the end of obama's term.

the fiscal year started Oct 1st. this is now Trump's economy. Obama handed him a growing economy and low unemployment rate, with some companies have verified they started playing to invest in America while obama was still president.

Trump has been handed a blessing. he better not screw it up, because it will be on him and the entire GOP.

remember, the economy grew under the fiscal year under obama, which means they grew under most of his policies.

those are the facts.

Please ... thats just a coincidence ... the affects of oBUMa’s policies just happend to kick in the night of the election ....

Wait time out I want to get a clear answer on something. Was Martin Luther King JR for or against equal rights for gays????? I always asumed he was, if he wasn't I would like to see some proof please.

You're blind to things like institutional racism and slow violence. So you can't even see half of the field.

Good luck. This topic has been hashed over by many people and there is almost nothing, in his own words, that would lead you to a final resolution on his feelings on the topic of homosexuality.

There are different experts who knew him well, including his own daughter and wife, and even they can't agree... I'm guessing it probably just wasn't a big topic that he was concerned with at the time.. he kind of had other causes to worry about.

So people who knew him are to chicken to say?????

No, they are all willing to say, it's just that what they say isn't the same. His wife said he was very sympathetic to gay people and almost passively included them in his struggle for equal rights.. his daughter says just the opposite, in fact her exact quote was, "My father didn't take a bullet for gay rights."

So a lot of people are willing to say.. but there is still no consensus.

Thanks for making that clear bro.

Never been institutionalized so you may have the experience there.

Why were they put into an institution?

By institutional racism, he means racism that is ingrained within the system.

You do understand who you're actually arguing with, right? The government of the elected officials in southern towns and states. It's them that represent their constituency that are removing these monuments and statues. They understand what these statues mean. The people who live there and elected them know what they mean.

It sounds to me like you're fighting against the Democratic process and not me.

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White Lives Matter rally: Who are the groups involved, and what do they believe?

White nationalists plan to gather in Middle Tennessee this weekend, where they'll hold "White Lives Matter" rallies in Shelbyville and Murfreesboro in protest of refugee resettlement and immigration.

The organizations bringing members to rally have said they're doing so as an alliance called Nationalist Front, but who are these groups? In addition to being considered extremist organizations by the Southern Poverty Law Center, here's a primer on each group and their causes.

Traditionalist Worker Party

Self-described as a political party seeking to “establish an independent white ethno-state in North America” in which immigration is “limited to members of the White European Race,” TWP is a relatively new group, having formed a couple of years ago under the leadership of Matt Parrott and Matthew Heimbach of Indiana after they started the Traditionalist Youth Network.

At Unite the Right and other protests, TWP members have outfitted themselves with shields, wearing masks and often all-black clothing.

The group opposes capitalism and colonialism, as well as “international Jewry,” calling instead for a “National Socialist government, economy and society for our people,” according to its website.
Ten of these flyers advocating for the white nationalist

Ten of these flyers advocating for the white nationalist group the Traditionalist Worker Party were removed Sept. 28, 2017, from an academic building at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville.

Unlike some right-wing groups, the TWP advocates for its ideal government offering a “strong social safety net” for anyone willing to work, free higher education for youth, no prison or bail for nonviolent offenders, as well as environmental conservation and humane treatment of animals.

“The group’s version of ‘traditionalism’ has its roots in the ‘radical traditionalism’ espoused by mid-20th century Italian ‘philosopher’ Julius Evola, a fascist thinker who believed that Jews were to blame for the modern materialism and democracy that he thought subverted the natural order of the world,” writes the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Following a June 2016 TWP event in Sacramento, Heimbach reported that his organization “got” six anti-Fascist protesters who were being taken to the hospital after being “finished” by TWP members after “the left started the fight,” according to the SPLC.

In April 2016, Heimbach was charged at a campaign rally in Louisville for then Republican candidate Donald Trump with pushing a University of Louisville student who was protesting at the event. This July, he pleaded guilty to a lesser charge.

National Socialist Movement

Based in Detroit, the National Socialist Movement has been around for decades.

On its website, the organization is open about equating National Socialism with Nazism, as well as attributing its ideology to that of Adolf Hitler.

“Adolf Hitler and National Socialism pulled Germany and her people out of the depression by creating meaningful jobs for them,” reads an answer to one of NSM’s frequently asked questions. “They also went the extra mile and made life a true joy for their people! Hitler loved and cared deeply for the average person.”

The SPLC, which considers the organization “one of the largest and most prominent neo-Nazi groups in the United States,” says NSM has operated since 1994, when leadership of the group was passed to Jeff Schoep. The organization’s website, however, reports it was founded in 1974.

On NSM’s website, in its list of 25 Points of American National Socialism, the group calls for the development of a nation made up of “only those of pure White blood,” in which “no Jew or homosexual may be a member of the nation.”

NSM demands “that all non-Whites currently living in America” be forced to leave the country.

The group’s political ideology also includes calls for a livable wage, the ending of taxes on food, medicine, housing, clothing and other necessities, affordable housing, universal health care for all members of the nation and the government regulation of news media, among other ideas.

Until 2007, NSM held demonstration in brown-shirt Nazi uniforms until voting that year to adopt black outfits, the SPLC reports.

League of the South

Classified by the SPLC as a “neo-Confederate” hate group, a label League of the South denies in multiple sections of its website, the organization advocates for the secession of southern states, an ideology it refers to as “Southern nationalism.”

Run by Michael Hill, the organization’s president, League of the South is also the group that has spearheaded most of the planning of the White Lives Matter protest, including reaching out to city officials and publicizing the rally online.

The group held similar, small anti-immigration and anti-refugee resettlement demonstrations in both Shelbyville and Murfreesboro in October 2013.

On its website, League of the South features “country studies” for several southern states, in which the organization explains how Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Louisiana and Texas could each exist as independent republics.

In 2014, the SPLC reported it had uncovered evidence from “leaked internal communications” and “anonymous sources within” League of the South that the organization was developing a militia, “the Indomitables,” in the event of potential secessions.

The group received criticism from left-wing blogs, though not widespread attention, after hosting a an event in 2015 to celebrate John Wilkes Booth and the 150th anniversary of the assassination of President Abraham Lincoln.

Vanguard America

The group has rebranded and split into new factions multiple times in recent years, previously operating under the name American Vanguard and Reaction America, according to the SPLC.

The Anti-Defamation League describes Vanguard America as “a white supremacist group that opposes multiculturalism and believes America is an exclusively white nation,” primarily targeting college-aged men in its recruitment efforts.

James Fields, the suspect charged in the killing of 32-year-old Heather Heyer — who died after a car drove into a group of counterprotesters Aug. 12 at the Unite the Right in Charlottesville, Va. — was photographed by the New York Daily News earlier that day holding a shield depicting a version of VA's logo.

Vanguard America confirmed in a statement that Fields was carrying one of its shields and seen with a group wearing white collared shirts and khaki pants — the organization's uniform — but denied that Fields was a member or that the shield or uniform denoted membership.

On the blog page of its website, VA encourages potential supporters to "stop the White Holocaust."

According to ADL, anti-Semitic Vanguard America fliers and stickers have been posted twice this year at synagogues in Louisiana and Texas, as well as a banner at a Holocaust memorial in New Jersey.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/201...ssee/792726001/

I just thought I would give you some information on those who agree with you about those statues and exactly what motivates them. You just keep on keeping on though.

Like Blacks only colleges...
He's right then I have not seen that first hand.

"international Jewry".

man, some people really have creative ways to trash jewish people. i mean typically black people just get the N word tossed at them, but the ways in which white nationalists call jewish people is so screwed up, it's almost poetic.

you do know why HBCU's were created right?

damn, i asked you a question you should've been aware of again.

One of my pet peeves is when people say 'the "N" word', I think if you are going to bring it up you should just say the damn word. The more it's discussed the more taboo it will become. Dancing around it with a letter makes certain people feel that it's alright to minimize it's hateful usage.

White people who are discussing it should not be afraid to say it, it's a derogative word, period.

Indiana AG Says NFL Kneelers Should Protest Black-on-Black Crime Instead

By V Saxena
October 21, 2017 at 10:02am

https://conservativetribune.com/nfl-kneelers-should-protest-crime/

In a passionate column published this week in conservative media, Indiana Attorney General Curtis T. Hill pleaded with the NFL’s players to stop kneeling during the national anthem to protest police shootings and start taking a “stand” against black-on-black violence.

“While it is true that each year a number of blacks die as a result of being shot or otherwise killed by the police, that number is but a fraction of the number of black people murdered by black people,” he wrote in an op-ed for The Daily Caller.

“We live in a nation where blacks make up approximately 13 percent of the population and yet account for more than half of the murders,” he added. “Shockingly, 90 percent of those victims are murdered by other blacks. Something is terribly wrong.”

Just a couple weeks ago, Chicago suffered its 500th homicide for this year alone when Dashawn Townes, a 34-year-old father of two teens, was gunned down outside his home.

“I don’t like the way it is now,” his stepmother, Cheryl Hardy, said to the Chicago Tribune at the time. “You can’t sit on your porch for five minutes without (gunfire).”

Yet the NFL has been sickeningly silent in the face of all this violence, choosing instead to focus its efforts on the few times blacks were killed by the police — and this despite the fact most of those shootings were justified, as noted by Hill, a Republican who also happens to be black.

“(C)ontrary to the tone of many protests concerning police shootings, not every police shooting is unjust,” he wrote. “In fact, the overwhelming majority are proven to be a reasonable use of force often connected with violent criminal behavior. Yet none of the 6,000 murders of young black people was justifiable. None. Every single death was preventable.”

But again, the NFL has said nothing about these deaths. It’s almost as if “black lives actually don’t matter to the NFL,” as argued last month by Daniel Horowitz in a piece for Conservative Review.

Dovetailing back to Hill, he rightly pointed out that NFL franchises and athletes have an incredible platform from which they could “magnify the urgency of this tragic loss of life.”

“Their actions on the field and off can unite them as men of influence who stand for justice,” he wrote. “Rather than kneeling in silence, they should choose to stand as men of character and courage and tackle black-on-black violence.”

That’s a great point, but will anyone in the NFL actually accept Hill’s challenge? I sincerely doubt it. Especially unemployed quarterback Colin Kaepernick, who — despite appearances otherwise — cares so little about his own community and his country that he didn’t even vote in last year’s election.

“This tragedy deserves the attention of every American,” Hill concluded. “NFL players may be just the right men to start this protest and stand up against black-on-black violence and give voice to a movement whose time has come in order to save the lives of young black men.”

He’s right, and I hope someone — anyone — in the NFL heeds his message.

we already have protest and marches for black on black crime.

why don't you ever tell people who protest to bring awareness to breast cancer that they should protest heart disease instead?

stop telling people what they should and shouldn't protest.

Stop telling me what I should and shouldn't tell people.

i will if you're spreading lies and misinformation.

Them dang protesters and their pesky ideas! If they want to protest they should ask us what we want them to protests, then 'real' murican's might get behind them. Kneelin' and what not is just disrespectful of murican' values! They ought to be protesting the removal of those great historical statues, not some mamby pamby libtard ideas that blacks are somehow suffering cause a few get shot when committing heinous traffic offenses!

lol love it.

i'm telling you bro, some of these conservatives are ridiculous. they are cool with minorties protesting as like as THEY have control over what the protest is about, when the protest occurs, and how the protest is gone about.

yet when it comes to white nationalist protesting, it's "eh, whatever".

Keywords: Control Minorities... run bro! you cracked the code so the brown shirts will be coming for you!

40 meets Swish...

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4ef_1508808794

Stand up son.

well you are a bully like your president, after all.

These are the two greatest back to back posts ever.

If that were you doing that to swish, I have a feeling you would be in a bit of pain right now.

Look in the mirror!

Can’t when you already broke it.

Get off your knee do a little work earn a few of these and buy yourself a mirror...or get a Black Lies Matter protestor to loot you one!