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Maybe we can trade Hogan to NE for a third?
Then they'll have two Hogans!
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Maybe we can trade Hogan to NE for a third?
Then they'll have two Hogans!
So you saying we could get a second maybe?
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Hue missed. Dude, shut up!
I believe Hue has very good pull as to who he wants as QB with all due respect!
Exciting football will be back in Cleveland this fall!
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I think it is more likely that we offered something last year, but that SF kept at it this year and we did not. I seriously doubt that BB would take less compensation to make JG happy.
Whatever the reason it comes back to gross negligence on the FO part.
I do not trust them having another draft.
This is going to be a PR nightmare for the Browns over the coming days. Something is going to happen.
Probably. Damn!!!!
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I seriously doubt that BB would take less compensation to make JG happy.
I agree.BB will do what's best for the team and taking a lesser offer to please a player doesn't seem like it's in his personality.
I mean he's considered one of the best head coaches of all time for a reason.
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Is there any proof that Jimmy G said he didn't want to play here? Or, is it that our FO just got outmaneuvered again?
I don't think there could be any other explanation when we previously offered a first round pick and he gets traded instead of a 2nd round pick.
I seriously doubt the Browns ever offered a 1st. Bill is a lot of things but idiot isn't one of them.
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I think it is more likely that we offered something last year, but that SF kept at it this year and we did not. I seriously doubt that BB would take less compensation to make JG happy.
Whatever the reason it comes back to gross negligence on the FO part.
I do not trust them having another draft.
This is going to be a PR nightmare for the Browns over the coming days. Something is going to happen.
Probably. Damn!!!!
Damn? It’s more like Damn Skippy! As it should be.
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There truly is no rock bottom for this team.
it's just a black hole bro.
Perfectly said. BLACK. ENDLESS (sighs).
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Hey, either this FO proves they're the geniuses we were sold and their plan comes together or they show their ineptitude. I'm kinda on the fence but leaning toward the inept side...
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I bet Depo is in his house in La Jolla sipping a glass of wine and putting a spreadsheet together on rehab exercises for Thomas. Go Browns!!!!!
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I was mad about this for a short time but then my very next thought was that Kirk Cousins will suddenly be available in FA.
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Cousins will be Brady's replacement.
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I was mad about this for a short time but then my very next thought was that Kirk Cousins will suddenly be available in FA.
I hear he is going to Denver!!!
Exciting football will be back in Cleveland this fall!
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I was mad about this for a short time but then my very next thought was that Kirk Cousins will suddenly be available in FA.
Man, people will be drooling for him that JG is officially off the market/trade... including Washington.
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I was mad about this for a short time but then my very next thought was that Kirk Cousins will suddenly be available in FA.
And as a hot commodity in free agency you’re going to go with the hapless Browns?
Because you’re a masochist?
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if Kirk goes to denver then he's signing long term. jimmy G most likely will sign a long term deal. anybody know the list of QB's hitting FA this offseason?
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by Thomas Moore 6 months ago Rapoport appeared last week on the NFL Network’s Up to the Minute and made it about as clear as he possibly could:
“From my understanding, the Patriots do not want to deal Jimmy Garoppolo. They really just don’t, whether it’s to the Browns, whether it’s to the Texans. Their stance right now … is they do not want to give up someone who they consider a franchise quarterback for a pick this year.”
The idea that the Browns would be willing trade partners with the Patriots has never made sense – especially when people start tossing around first-round picks as the compensation that Cleveland would give up.
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if Kirk goes to denver then he's signing long term. jimmy G most likely will sign a long term deal. anybody know the list of QB's hitting FA this offseason?
Our only hope is Alex Smith.
Sigh him to a 3 year deal.
Draft a guy #1 overall to sit and learn.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Man, our list of good QBs we passed up is getting as long as the list of bad Qbs we've played.
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I was mad about this for a short time but then my very next thought was that Kirk Cousins will suddenly be available in FA.
I hear he is going to Denver!!!
Not at $25+ mil a year, he's not.
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Oh my goodness!!!! Can't wait to hear the homers defend the FO on this move. Freaking Browns suck!
Hue like Flattop. Just listen to him talk about him.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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Shanahan made it public he wanted JG when he was with us. That said, I thought they would aggressively go after Cousins. SF's season just got interesting and pretty much guarantees we will have the #1.
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j/c...
More turd sandwiches at the Browns buffet......
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Lol, no. Side note: Cleveland had the opportunity to acquire Cousins for a third a few years ago, would only offer a 4th.
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if Kirk goes to denver then he's signing long term. jimmy G most likely will sign a long term deal. anybody know the list of QB's hitting FA this offseason?
Our only hope is Alex Smith.
Sigh him to a 3 year deal.
Draft a guy #1 overall to sit and learn.
If Kansas City lets him go I'd be game... But my guess is he either stays or will want to go somewhere that is a playoff team in need of a qb
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Maybe BB respects his players and asked JG which of the two and he said SF?
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We NEVER EVER offered a first. Did NOT HAPPEN. Mary Kay was talking out her butt last year. Had no clue what was happening. none whatsoever!!!!
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Wouldn't Houston's first trump SFs second? Still say we didn't know or didn't care one. Not sure I'd be sold on the guy for Houston's first anyway.
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Oh my goodness!!!! Can't wait to hear the homers defend the FO on this move. Freaking Browns suck!
Hue like Flattop. Just listen to him talk about him.
What in the hell are you talking about? Who is Flattop? Let me guess, it's some racial crap?
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49ers just cut Hoyer. Maybe Pats will take Hoyer back now that they don’t have a backup QB and knowing the niners might release him played into their decision.
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49ers just cut Hoyer. Maybe Pats will take Hoyer back now that they don’t have a backup QB and knowing the niners might release him played into their decision.
Can we offer them Kiser?
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j/c:
Would love to know if Browns had any shot at Jimmy G. Some around the league believe BB wouldn't consider "helping" them at QB. Old feelings
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Lol, no. Side note: Cleveland had the opportunity to acquire Cousins for a third a few years ago, would only offer a 4th.
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Well at least I know there is nothing left for me to hope for with this sorrily managed team. All I can do anymore is just SIGH when I think of the Browns. I don't even get angry anymore because it's just another day in the factory of sadness.
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One can only shake their head...
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That is a stretch. I think Bill has often spoke that he has a soft spot in his heart for Cleveland.
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One can only shake their head...
And wonder WTF we’re doing following this losing franchise year after year.
They say the definition of crazy is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
We’re all crazy.
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Sashi: Bill, I've the Texans first rounder for young Jim. Bill: No thanks. Jim asked if I wouldn't trade him to Cleveland and I kinda like SFs second. Not...
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One can only shake their head...
And wonder WTF we’re doing following this losing franchise year after year.
They say the definition of crazy is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
We’re all crazy.
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The front office probably passed because they dont want to admit Kiser was a mistake or at least needs to sit awhile. Plus they want youth and Jimmy G would only have given us 7 or 8 years of probable competent QB play...LMAO.. I would have offered our 2nd first rounder in a second.. IDIOTS.
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