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Originally Posted By: Swish
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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so GM, who is conservative and voted for Trump, wants trump to fail?


Dude, I have never seen anyone place labels on people faster than willit. I was considered to be a Liberal or Democrat after one post at one point.


If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, well, you know.


So that means trump colluded with the Russians? We finally got 40 to admit it!


LOL...you beat me to it.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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so GM, who is conservative and voted for Trump, wants trump to fail?


Dude, I have never seen anyone place labels on people faster than willit. I was considered to be a Liberal or Democrat after one post at one point.


If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, well, you know.


To use a better analogy, it'd be more like you'd have a group of elephants and a group of jackasses. They hate each other.

Then you have a lone wolf come through who barks at both. The elephants then think he must be a jackass and the jackasses think he must be an elephant.

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Trump's big Asia trip may include a meeting with Putin in Vietnam

http://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-bi...vietnam-2017-11


Trump getting some instructions and maybe some cuddle time?

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President Dementia, after claiming he didn't remember a meeting with Papadopoulos:


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A selective memory isn't the same thing as a good memory.


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A selective memory isn't the same thing as a good memory.


He possesses neither.

His memory is limited to rambling stories about how he probably could've gotten with Tawny Kitaen in 1991.

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I think my favorite incoherent, dementia ramble of Trump's was when he was speaking to the Boy Scouts of America and told some story about his depressed friend who used to have yacht orgies, and then started listing off the states he won "Florida...Wisconsin...Michigan..."

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And it was very sad because the hottest people in New York were at this party. It was the party of Steve Ross—Steve Ross, who was one of the great people. … And I was doing well, so I got invited to the party. I was very young. And I go in, but I'm in the real estate business, and I see a hundred people, some of whom I recognize, and they're big in the entertainment business.
And I see sitting in the corner was a little old man who was all by himself. Nobody was talking to him. I immediately recognized that that man was the once great William Levitt, of Levittown, and I immediately went over. I wanted to talk to him more than the Hollywood, show business, communications people.
So I went over and talked to him, and I said, “Mr. Levitt, I'm Donald Trump.” He said, "I know." I said, "Mr. Levitt, how are you doing?" He goes, "Not well, not well at all." And I knew that. But he said, "Not well at all." And he explained what was happening and how bad it's been and how hard it's been. And I said, "What exactly happened? Why did this happen to you? You're one of the greats ever in our industry. Why did this happen to you?” And he said, "Donald, I lost my momentum. I lost my momentum."

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After reading the numbers you guys posted and talking to a Dementia Specialist, I have come to the same conclusion I previously held...

TRUMP WON
GET OVER IT!

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
After reading the numbers you guys posted and talking to a Dementia Specialist, I have come to the same conclusion I previously held...

TRUMP WON
GET OVER IT!


40, why do you think Trump just had that baseball bat in his limo? And isn't it kind of weird that nobody called the police after Trump beat up the two muggers?


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
After reading the numbers you guys posted and talking to a Dementia Specialist, I have come to the same conclusion I previously held...

TRUMP WON
GET OVER IT!


40, why do you think Trump just had that baseball bat in his limo? And isn't it kind of weird that nobody called the police after Trump beat up the two muggers?



That story could very well be false.

But I haven't heard that trump had a baseball bat in the story. He, in the story, saw someone beating someone else with a baseball bat, and, in the story, he stopped it.

Fake? Good chance that it is false.

But, you exaggerate a bit when you say trump had a baseball bat in his limo. And I haven't seen where it was 2 muggers. And, I haven't seen where trump beat them up. Or even said he did.

I just read 4 different articles, and not 1 of them said trump had a baseball bat, or there were 2 muggers, or that trump beat them up.

Maybe I missed the article you read about it?

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
After reading the numbers you guys posted and talking to a Dementia Specialist, I have come to the same conclusion I previously held...

TRUMP WON
GET OVER IT!


40, why do you think Trump just had that baseball bat in his limo? And isn't it kind of weird that nobody called the police after Trump beat up the two muggers?



That story could very well be false.

But I haven't heard that trump had a baseball bat in the story. He, in the story, saw someone beating someone else with a baseball bat, and, in the story, he stopped it.

Fake? Good chance that it is false.

But, you exaggerate a bit when you say trump had a baseball bat in his limo. And I haven't seen where it was 2 muggers. And, I haven't seen where trump beat them up. Or even said he did.

I just read 4 different articles, and not 1 of them said trump had a baseball bat, or there were 2 muggers, or that trump beat them up.

Maybe I missed the article you read about it?


I would like to see the articles you've seen. I haven't seen a single one (because they don't exist).

I've seen the since deleted Reddit story written by the teen who launched the hoax in the first place, and I've seen the "Epoch Times, Independent China News" article that cites the Reddit hoax that mentions the fake article with the Photoshopped news clip.

The Reddit story has Trump climbing out of the limo with the bat, the Epoch Times, Independent China News story has the muggers with the bat.

Per Epoch Times, Independent China News:

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An old copy of the article went viral on Reddit’s The Donald Subreddit on Wednesday.

“Someone in the car looked over and said, ‘Gee, look at that, it’s a mugging,’ ” Trump said. “I said to my driver to stop the car because it was brutal-looking.”

Witnesses told the Daily News that Trump got out of his black stretch limousine on Monday during the assault in Manhattan. Marla Maples, who was married to Trump in the ’90s, was seen grabbing his arm.

“The guy with the bat looked at me, and I said, “Look, you’ve gotta stop this. Put down the bat,”‘ Trump said. “I guess he recognized me because he said, ‘Mr. Trump, I didn’t do anything wrong.’ I said, ‘How could you not do anything wrong when you’re whacking a guy with a bat?’ Then he ran away.”

Kathleen Romeo, a student at the time, said a bunch of people cried: “There’s Trump!” when he got out.

“A lot of people were surprised that he got out to see what was happening,” Romeo said, adding that the bat-wielder ran off right before he appeared. Trump then “just looked around and went back into his limo,” she said.

But another witness supported Trump.

“All of a sudden, a big long limousine pulls up on an angle, and Donald Trump pops out with the blond, too,” the unnamed witness added. “There was a guy with a bat, hitting a guy over the head, and Trump yelled, ‘Put that bat down. What are you doing?’ The guy dropped the bat, came over and started talking to him.”

The attack wasn’t ever reported to police.


https://www.theepochtimes.com/donald-tru...ys_2031210.html

Call me crazy, arch, but something tells me that never happened.

But seriously, the alarming issue isn't the specific details of this insane nonsense, it's that a grown man would be so gullible to believe that a wimpy trust fund narcissist who cries that it's unfair when someone calls him a bad name would come to the violent and heroic rescue of anyone.

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Another gem I missed:

When Trump gets out of the limo and yells, the mugger says "Mr. Trump, I didn't do anything wrong!"

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I just found this article from the Chicago Sun-Times in 2001. It's definitely real, I remember reading it when it happened. There's no archive of its existence, but it definitely sounds like it happened:

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"Witnesses tell the Sun-Times that Illinois State Senator Barack Obama came across two members of Chicago's Gangster Disciple gang holding an elderly woman at gunpoint.

"Hey, now," Mr. Obama said, rolling up his sleeves. "Stop that."

"Oh, gee, golly, sir," one of the gang members declared, laying down his gun. The other member tried to shoot, but Mr. Obama roundhouse kicked the gun from his hand.

"He was so totally brave," one witness said.

"Please don't tell anyone about this," Mr. Obama said.

Nobody bothered to call the police.

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Republicans just introduced a resolution to remove Mueller from the Trump-Russia investigation

http://www.businessinsider.com/republica...ounsel-2017-11/

man, conservatives really hate Mueller. wonder why?


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I have no idea of the credibility of mother jones.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/trump-files-the-time-donald-stopped-a-beating/

Gateway pundit? No idea of whether they are news or not.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/...street-in-1991/

There were some others that said the exact same thing.

Now, before you reply, please go back and read my initial post on this.

Ah, I'll post if for you here:
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That story could very well be false.

But I haven't heard that trump had a baseball bat in the story. He, in the story, saw someone beating someone else with a baseball bat, and, in the story, he stopped it.

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Fake? Good chance that it is false.


But, you exaggerate a bit when you say trump had a baseball bat in his limo. And I haven't seen where it was 2 muggers. And, I haven't seen where trump beat them up. Or even said he did.

I just read 4 different articles, and not 1 of them said trump had a baseball bat, or there were 2 muggers, or that trump beat them up.

Maybe I missed the article you read about it?


Please note the bolded parts.

And please note that you said trump had the bat, and that it was 2 muggers, and that he beat them up.


And also, not having a link to the articles you read? They were deleted?




Again, please note, I think the whole story is fake. I said so, and did again.

But you stated something you can't even back up with links as "truth".

Come on. I can still get links to hillary and her landing under fire in afghanistan or where ever it was.

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I understand that you recognize it's a fake story that didn't happen.

I'm curious as to why you even want to go to bat on the semantics over a story that you and I are both smart enough to know never actually happened.

Is it a semantics argument? Because I can live with that and play by those rules.

But c'mon, arch...you're not trying to argue that maybe this happened. I know that.

And on the off-chance I'm wrong...did you see the story I posted from the 2001 article where Obama roundhouse kicked the gun from the gang members hand?

I mean, maybe it happened, maybe it didn't. Who can say, really?

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Well they are all lies so there isn't any truth to be found.


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You're slick, I'll give you that.

But the fact remains you stated that trump got out of the limo with a bat, and beat 2 muggers.

You can't link to anything saying as much.

For a fake story, I at least gave you a few links.


You exaggerated and lied, but, the slick part of you, is attempting to twist out of what you stated as fact.

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You're slick, I'll give you that.

But the fact remains you stated that trump got out of the limo with a bat, and beat 2 muggers.

You can't link to anything saying as much.

For a fake story, I at least gave you a few links.


You exaggerated and lied, but, the slick part of you, is attempting to twist out of what you stated as fact.


None of this ever happened.

There was no mugging. Trump didn't get out of the limo.

As I said, go back and look - the Reddit teenager's hoax had Trump with the bat, and Epoch Times, Independent China News had muggers with the bat.

If your point is that I illustrated Trump having the bat...you win, sure.

Why not make it a laser beam? Trump had the laser beam. No, the muggers had the laser beam, and Trump wrestled it from them.

The humor isn't derived from who had the bat, the humor is that anyone would be dumb enough to believe that had this situation actually occurred, Trump wouldn't lock his doors in a cold sweat and yell 'DRIVE!"

In all seriousness - what is your complaint here? You're smarter than to fight on this hill.

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You stated something as fact, and had nothing to back it up with other than "I read.........but it's deleted.

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I've seen the since deleted Reddit story written by the teen who launched


You can't twist and turn out of this. You stated something as fact, and then you turn around and say the article you referred to is/was deleted. Period.

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I am quite surprised at the accusation of the Archives Department of the Philadelphia Enquirer and the Philadelphia Daily News being fake. They have a good reputation.

Here is the thumbnail of the article they ran in 1991 that they provided for me...

https://img.newspapers.com/img/thumbnail...60_113_34_1.jpg

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White House was unaware top adviser testified before grand jury

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/white-house-un...topstories.html

"unaware" and "do not recall" are the new official slogans of the Trump administration.


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If your point is that I illustrated Trump having the bat...you win, sure.


It's a good thing this story is not about Bill Clinton. We would be reading about him beating the mugger with a cigar willynilly


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I did not have sexual relations with that mugger!

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That depends on your definition of 'bat'.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
You stated something as fact, and had nothing to back it up with other than "I read.........but it's deleted.

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I've seen the since deleted Reddit story written by the teen who launched


You can't twist and turn out of this. You stated something as fact, and then you turn around and say the article you referred to is/was deleted. Period.


At no point did I say any of this is fact.

I've said it's obvious fiction (that's my whole point in mocking 40).

The only thing I've claimed was deleted was the original Reddit teenager's post that was cited by Epoch Times, Independent China News.

Nothing I've said on the matter had been deleted, feel free to quote any portion.

But, again - I have to ask for a 4th time- what is your point here? Is it semantical or philosophical?


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
After reading the numbers you guys posted and talking to a Dementia Specialist, I have come to the same conclusion I previously held...

TRUMP WON
GET OVER IT!


40, why do you think Trump just had that baseball bat in his limo? And isn't it kind of weird that nobody called the police after Trump beat up the two muggers?


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Originally Posted By: PDF
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
After reading the numbers you guys posted and talking to a Dementia Specialist, I have come to the same conclusion I previously held...

TRUMP WON
GET OVER IT!


40, why do you think Trump just had that baseball bat in his limo? And isn't it kind of weird that nobody called the police after Trump beat up the two m


For the 6th time:

Is this a semantic argument or a philosophical one?

Let's rewind to the third time I asked, because there was a sub question there:

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You're slick, I'll give you that.

But the fact remains you stated that trump got out of the limo with a bat, and beat 2 muggers.

You can't link to anything saying as much.

For a fake story, I at least gave you a few links.


You exaggerated and lied, but, the slick part of you, is attempting to twist out of what you stated as fact.


None of this ever happened.

There was no mugging. Trump didn't get out of the limo.

As I said, go back and look - the Reddit teenager's hoax had Trump with the bat, and Epoch Times, Independent China News had muggers with the bat.

If your point is that I illustrated Trump having the bat...you win, sure.

Why not make it a laser beam? Trump had the laser beam. No, the muggers had the laser beam, and Trump wrestled it from them.


For the 5th time- is this insane argument factual or semantic?

Which way would you like to lose the argument? (That's not a diss on you arch - I think you're a bright dude. But if you try to defend 40 or Trump, you took on a losing case)

Is your big grand point here that when I mocked 40 for believing in insanity, I mixed up who had the bat in the fairy tale?

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You've already lost the discussion and your are failing again while attempting to disregard or poo poo what your original statement was.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Originally Posted By: PDF
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
After reading the numbers you guys posted and talking to a Dementia Specialist, I have come to the same conclusion I previously held...

TRUMP WON
GET OVER IT!


40, why do you think Trump just had that baseball bat in his limo? And isn't it kind of weird that nobody called the police after Trump beat up the two muggers?



What???
Trump never had a baseball bat in the Limo, he had Marla Maples in the Limo and she ain't no bat!

Two Muggers???
Trump stopped a mugger who was beating another guy with a bat!

Who is filling your head with this stuff Arch?
Somebody who talks outta his Neck?

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i've never seen so much debate over a fictional story in my life.


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i've never seen so much debate over a fictional story in my life.



Liar. You just saw it, so you can't saw you've never seen it.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Originally Posted By: PDF
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
After reading the numbers you guys posted and talking to a Dementia Specialist, I have come to the same conclusion I previously held...

TRUMP WON
GET OVER IT!


40, why do you think Trump just had that baseball bat in his limo? And isn't it kind of weird that nobody called the police after Trump beat up the two muggers?



What???
Trump never had a baseball bat in the Limo, he had Marla Maples in the Limo and she ain't no bat!

Two Muggers???
Trump stopped a mugger who was beating another guy with a bat!

Who is filling your head with this stuff Arch?
Somebody who talks outta his Neck?


Oh, and why didn't someone call the Law when Trump fixed this???

Because my Good Man, TRUMP IS THE LAW!!! thumbsup

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Cyprus gives Manafort’s banking records to Mueller

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/11/03/cyprus-gives-manaforts-banking-records-to-mueller/

Authorities in Cyprus handed over bank and company records to U.S. investigators late last week related to former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his business partner Rick Gates, just before they were indicted in the U.S., according to people familiar with the probe.

The Cypriot government was responding to a June 7 request from U.S. investigators for records related to Manafort, Gates and companies they set up in Cyprus and the Seychelles, the people said. The pair of U.S. consultants had at least 15 accounts on the island with Bank of Cyprus and a bank it took over in 2013, Cyprus Popular Bank, one of the people said.

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Only a small part of the request from the investigative team headed by U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller hasn’t been answered yet, the people said. A Bank of Cyprus spokesman declined to comment.

Manafort and Gates, his former right-hand man, are accused of hiding their work as agents of Ukraine, laundering millions of dollars and concealing foreign accounts. They pleaded not guilty, and a judge placed them under house arrest.

It’s unclear how much of the information Cyprus authorities provided was new or whether it might open additional doors in the Mueller probe of Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. The indictment provided extensive details of money flows from Cyprus to the U.S. but didn’t specify the sources of the millions of dollars channeled through the companies controlled by Manafort and Gates in Cyprus.

The FBI has asked Cyprus to allow its agents to gather testimony from accountants, bankers, lawyers and state officials in Cyprus about the Manafort case, Nicosia-based Politis reported, without saying how it knew. The FBI is waiting for a court in Cyprus to approve its request, the agency said.

The indictment against Manafort and Gates was unsealed on Oct. 30. Manafort is accused of having laundered $18 million, including proceeds from his political consulting work for former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and his pro-Russia Party of Regions. Yanukovych fled to Russia in 2014 after he was toppled.


In all, prosecutors allege that more than $75 million flowed through the offshore accounts set up by Manafort and Gates, the bulk of which were in Cyprus. The indictment detailed $12 million of payments from those accounts for Manafort’s personal real estate purchases and goods and services in the U.S.


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Yes the Russians were scheming with Manafort back in 2013 that they would get dirt from Crooked Hillary in 2016 and then give it to Manafort.

This witch hunt is really starting to get silly now. Trump needs to hire a special council to investigate Mueller.


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this witch hunt seems to be turning up witches, though.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
this witch hunt seems to be turning up witches, though.


There uncovering alleged crimes committed back in 2012 and 2013. Have not turned up any collusion with the Russians during the election. Although, fellow Democrats are calling out Hillary for collusion to steal an election. Maybe, if Mueller looked the other way he would find something relevant.


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