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I agree.

And in the end, the only electable candidates to run our Nation will be those who are squeaky clean and without blemish.

Oh dear.


I know. Pretty sobering, right/


Yes, and if you check that list I found, well I was astonished.
Now I heard something about Ryan Seacrest being accused.

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The most damning evidence I can find against Judge Moore is the fact when ALL of these alleged crimes occurred he was a Democrat.

He became a Republican in 1992.

I am now suspicious.


rofl

I wonder if it had anything to do with the fact the RAPIST was about to become president ... he may have been the LONE WOLF liberal that didn’t want to protect the RAPIST ...




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Sorry but it seems the Judge is denying everything while Frankenstein has admitted everything, therefore your boy is guilty and the Judge is still presumed innocent until such time as there is an investigation into the validity of the accusations.

If elected, he will face the same ethics hearings as your boy Frankenstein. The truth will eventually be known and justice served.

Don't like it? Move to Zimbabwe. Pointed fingers have weight there.


I see somebody had their Troll Juice today. rolleyes

Pretty bigoted thing to say to Swish if you ask me. Your support for the pedophile is noted BTW, so don't doubletalk when I use it against you later. I'm going to enjoy watching your cookie crumble in the elections to come.


I've kept my comments to a minimum in this thread mainly because of things like this.

I've read every post in this thread and no where did I read that anyone supported pedophilia.

All I read was people wanting to wait for more evidence (as should be the case) and question the timing of the allegations.

The only mistake anyone made was commenting as much as they did before more evidence came to light.


Claiming Moore is somehow innocent until proven guilty at this point is supporting pedophillia IMHO. No reasonable person thinks he's innocent after (what 9?) all the accusers coming forward. This guy is like Cosby in that he GOT CAUGHT!

40 was trolling and I called him out on it. You'll notice he ran away... scampered back to his troll hole.

I give guys like you credit for just having differing views Ted. That's politics. 40 intentionally tries to troll. His Zimbabwe comment was purely racist but he masked it just enough to not get banned.

His comment about Moore vs. Franken... You can't even compare the two! Franken had one accuser, an adult BTW, he apologized publicly TWICE and she accepted his apology. She also said she didn't want him to resign or step down over this! What Franken did was wrong, but you can't be more upset than the victim.

Moore has 9 accusers by my last count and denies all of their accusations while hiding behind religion! How disgusting is that! All of his accusers were teenage girls at the time he harassed them. 40 talks about 'proven guilty' knowing these women will never get their day in court due to statute of limitations. So it doesn't matter to him if it's 9 or 90 accusers, as long as a republican butt is in that Senate seat! Pedophilia be damned!

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
The most damning evidence I can find against Judge Moore is the fact when ALL of these alleged crimes occurred he was a Democrat.

He became a Republican in 1992.

I am now suspicious.


rofl

I wonder if it had anything to do with the fact the RAPIST was about to become president ... he may have been the LONE WOLF liberal that didn’t want to protect the RAPIST ...


so they waited 25 years for this very moment to arise?


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Sorry but it seems the Judge is denying everything while Frankenstein has admitted everything, therefore your boy is guilty and the Judge is still presumed innocent until such time as there is an investigation into the validity of the accusations.

If elected, he will face the same ethics hearings as your boy Frankenstein. The truth will eventually be known and justice served.

Don't like it? Move to Zimbabwe. Pointed fingers have weight there.


I see somebody had their Troll Juice today. rolleyes

Pretty bigoted thing to say to Swish if you ask me. Your support for the pedophile is noted BTW, so don't doubletalk when I use it against you later. I'm going to enjoy watching your cookie crumble in the elections to come.


I've kept my comments to a minimum in this thread mainly because of things like this.

I've read every post in this thread and no where did I read that anyone supported pedophilia.

All I read was people wanting to wait for more evidence (as should be the case) and question the timing of the allegations.

The only mistake anyone made was commenting as much as they did before more evidence came to light.


Claiming Moore is somehow innocent until proven guilty at this point is supporting pedophillia IMHO.

aaaand all of America joins me in a sigh of relief that our justice system isn't based on your opinion.

No reasonable person thinks he's innocent after (what 9?) all the accusers coming forward. This guy is like Cosby in that he GOT CAUGHT!

Two things, any reasonable person waits until there is genuine evidence. That's why the line 'Beyond Reasonable Doubt' exists. Secondly, as I said previously-they should've waited a bit more before commenting.

40 was trolling and I called him out on it. You'll notice he ran away... scampered back to his troll hole.

I give guys like you credit for just having differing views Ted. That's politics. 40 intentionally tries to troll. His Zimbabwe comment was purely racist but he masked it just enough to not get banned.

With the amount of condescension I read in your posts-YOU'RE NO BETTER.

His comment about Moore vs. Franken... You can't even compare the two! Franken had one accuser, an adult BTW, he apologized publicly TWICE and she accepted his apology. She also said she didn't want him to resign or step down over this! What Franken did was wrong, but you can't be more upset than the victim.

A-She said it wasn't her call on whether he resigned or not. Does her accepting his apology exonerate him? Should he not suffer consequences? Have you not heard about how he wrote SNL jokes about raping Leslie Stahl? Last I checked, our justice system wasn't based on her opinion either. Do you also not find it rather funny that he has repeatedly criticized others for the very thing he was found guilty of doing?

Moore has 9 accusers by my last count and denies all of their accusations while hiding behind religion! How disgusting is that! All of his accusers were teenage girls at the time he harassed them. 40 talks about 'proven guilty' knowing these women will never get their day in court due to statute of limitations. So it doesn't matter to him if it's 9 or 90 accusers, as long as a republican butt is in that Senate seat! Pedophilia be damned!


Another two things-Just because they don't get a day in court certainly doesn't mean that an investigation can't take place in order to find out the truth. I hate to say it, but this is what you get when you let people like Bill Clinton get away with what he did for so long. Do you also not find it funny that EVERYONE THAT TRIED TO SWEEP ALL OF HIS ACCUSERS UNDER THE RUG ARE NOW CHANGING THEIR TUNE?

Got bad news guys, but all the defending you did of that rapist is blowing up in your face now.


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Swish, you think I was saying move back to Africa?

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Swish, you think I was saying move back to Africa?


Zimbabwe is in what continent.

i'm REALLY trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here, especially since we've all taken our fair share of shots when it comes to "move back to <insert wherever>.

but that was oddly specific of you.


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Swish, you think I was saying move back to Africa?


Zimbabwe is in what continent.

i'm REALLY trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here, especially since we've all taken our fair share of shots when it comes to "move back to <insert wherever>.

but that was oddly specific of you.


Nobody's told me to move back to Italy yet.


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Zimbabwe has been in the News a lot lately as a lawless Nation where the Army just took over in a coup.

That is why it was on my mind as a place for you to move to if you want to live in a place where the rule of law isn't much more than pointing a finger at someone and yelling Witch.

I do apologize if you took that to mean move back to Africa.

I will always enjoy throwing barbs at you but it is never my intention to hurt. Having my words taken that way is hurtful to you and also to me.

Ted on the other hand should move back to Italy if they will have him.

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Swish, you think I was saying move back to Africa?


Zimbabwe is in what continent.

i'm REALLY trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here, especially since we've all taken our fair share of shots when it comes to "move back to <insert wherever>.

but that was oddly specific of you.


Nobody's told me to move back to Italy yet.


im sure if they paid for your flight you'd go. we all would lol


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we're good.


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I couldn't read through all of this thread because there was too much bickering, but how many accusers are there? 1? 3? 5? 8?

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too many.

i mean, he was on pace to approach Cosby type numbers.


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And people are still defending him?

Also, I was skimming, but I thought I saw something about him being barred from a mall for hitting on underage girls. Is that true.

And one more question...............wtf are people defending this turd?

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and by the way, anybody see what that O'Neil dude from ohio said?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ohio-court-justice-deletes-facebook-post-sexual-history-172508600.html

as stupid as it was for him to say that....THATS locker room talk. bragging about how many women he smashed. not bragging about sexual harassment/assault, not engaging in it either.

Thats the kind of stuff where women just simply roll their eyes and go "men".

but Roy moore? these other idiots out here actually harassing women and/or bragging about it? that's crossing the line and there's no justification for it.

i mean this is a perfect example of what i was talking about in the sexual assault thread. look at how many conservatives in Alabama will still vote for this guy no matter what.

that is a textbook reason as to why women do not immediately come out and name accusers when it happens. we have alabama residents literally coming out and saying "oh yea we've known about him for years".

i mean how screwed up do you have to be to get banned from a damn mall because of your crap?

in a few years imma have daughters who will be old enough to roll to the mall with their friends. and yet there's people like Roy Moore actively out there.

yet this man has been allowed to still preach the word of god, still hold a justice seat in alabama, been FIRED from the bench twice, and still has majority of support from conservatives in the state.

that is an absolute failure from the bottom up. we as americans can not complain about corrupt politicians when we refuse to hold their feet to the fire to begin with. the people of alabama literally enabled this guy his entire life/career because he knew he could get away with it.

and so now at MOST, he might lose the senate race. he's lived a full life and a great career while scarring so many others for the rest of their lives.

that absolutely sucks.


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I agree. He and Franklin both need to be shunned by voters.

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yea and i see hollywood has came out and defending al franken, who use to be a comedian on snl.

its disappointing. dude needs to catch way more heat than what he's currently getting.


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I am not as educated on these situations as you guys are, but from what I have read, both these creeps need to go.

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And people are still defending him?

Also, I was skimming, but I thought I saw something about him being barred from a mall for hitting on underage girls. Is that true.

And one more question...............wtf are people defending this turd?


Some in Alabama are actively defending him.

Career state politicians.
Church leaders.
Long-time rank-and-file voters.

Some have actively chosen to completely re-frame the issue- ignoring the nature of the allegations, the number/volume of claims, and scores of corroborating witnesses... and turning it into 'an attack on Good by the minions of Evil.'

This is how far they are willing to twist things.

Then, there's another faction who are saying: "I'll hold my nose and vote for him, because the alternative is electing a Democrat."


But the bottom line is this: Local cops (who knew everyone in this smallish community) banned him from a local shopping mall when he was a 30 year-old assistant D.A. because of his reputation of approaching and propositioning 8th, 9th & 10th grade girls. A man in his 30's.

Let that land- and marinate for a moment.

He: 30.
She: 14.


8th grade girls.
10th grade girls.


This is what we've become.

By the way, his most ardent supporters are Alabama's evangelical community. That's just how crazy this whole thing is.
Think about it, Vers:

Folks who believe The Bible to be the direct, unfiltered Word of God... are rushing to the defense of a person who chooses to use a public shopping mall as his hunting grounds for sexual encounters with under-age daughters of his neighbors.

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wtf are people defending this turd?

I don't know.
The world no longer makes sense.

It hasn't made sense to me for the past 2 years.


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I am appalled--but not surprised--that people are defending Moore and Franklin because of their political affiliations.

It's just more evidence why I am on an island w/family members, some friends, and other acquaintances that refuse to participate in such extremist ideologies.

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Pastor supporting Moore: 'More women are sexual predators than men'

BY BRANDON CARTER - 11/18/17 07:25 PM EST

A pastor who supports Senate candidate Roy Moore (R) blasted the allegations of sexual harassment against Moore, saying they’re part of a “war on men.”

"More women are sexual predators than men," Pastor Franklin Raddish of Independent Baptist Ministries, a nationwide church, told AL.com. "Women are chasing young boys up and down the road, but we don't hear about that because it's not PC."

The news organization spoke to Raddish as part of an effort to speak with every pastor that endorsed Moore before the allegations against him were made public. Nineteen of the 29 pastors who responded told AL.com they were still supporting Moore.
Dozens of other Alabama pastors signed on to a letter released Friday calling Moore unfit for office and accusing him of preaching “extremist values” while comparing him to politicians who have “cynically used Christianity for their own goals.”

The letter also takes aim at Moore for the sexual misconduct allegations against him, saying his actions serve to "reopen the wounds of anyone who has been abused by leaders who should have been committed to compassion, to justice, and to healing God's world."

Multiple women have accused Moore of sexual misconduct in recent weeks, including one woman who accused him of sexually assaulting her when she was 16 and another who said Moore initiated a sexual encounter with her when she was 14 and he was in his 30s.

Moore has repeatedly denied the allegations, calling them politically motivated, and has resisted calls for him to drop out of the race from multiple prominent Republicans.

--Updated 1:54 a.m.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/361...dators-than-men

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old white bigots so desperate to reclaim Murica that they decided Con Men, Rapist, Womanizers, Bigots, Nazis, and Pedos

Come on man , there are some very fine people in that group


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The biggest change Obama brought was that he made old white bigots so desperate to reclaim Murica that they decided Con Men, Rapist, Womanizers, Bigots, Nazis, and Pedos were better than a black president or a Dem controlled congress.

They are selling their souls for a few more years of relevance...



A cornered animal fights hardest just before The End.
I saw this coming in 2008.


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It's just more evidence why I am on an island w/family members, some friends, and other acquaintances that refuse to participate in such extremist ideologies.


Macro Tribalism. Political Parties are sports teams to root for now regardless of outcome. Republicans on verge of increasing deficit by trillions yet small govt voters would rather vote for them. Same with Roy Moore and evangelicals. Same with Al Franken I'm sure if he makes it to reelection (he probably will)

It would be like Kizer throwing a pick and some Browns fans saying it's part of the plan. Or that it was 17D chess done on purpose.


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Franken reportedly won't resign, amid more congressional calls to deal with allegations against him and Roy Moore

Democratic Sen. Al Franken reportedly won’t resign amid a sexual misconduct scandal, but his future in Congress remains unsettled amid more calls Sunday for congressional investigations into his and potential Senator Roy Moore’s conduct with women.

A spokesman for Franken, who represents Minnesota, told his hometown paper The Star Tribune on Saturday that the senator would not resign.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/...-roy-moore.html

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Why am I not surprised?


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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg
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The biggest change Obama brought was that he made old white bigots so desperate to reclaim Murica that they decided Con Men, Rapist, Womanizers, Bigots, Nazis, and Pedos were better than a black president or a Dem controlled congress.

They are selling their souls for a few more years of relevance...



A cornered animal fights hardest just before The End.
I saw this coming in 2008.


You guys have no clue of what is coming...

Hint...
https://admin62b4b.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/maxresdefault.jpg

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Kinda looks like an image I might see in the Book of Revelation.


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What kind of commie crap is this!


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Your Emperor is not a communist.

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Certainly not my emperor.

I know you like being ruled with an iron fist but the majority of Americans do not.


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Kinda looks like an image I might see in the Book of Revelation.


Apparently you have been busy working indoors and have not heard.

Listen...
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Watched the video.

It seems the angels need to learn how to tune their trumpets tongue


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: MrTed
Kinda looks like an image I might see in the Book of Revelation.


Apparently you have been busy working indoors and have not heard.

Listen...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D33nKfp2aYI


Actually been trying to beat the weather to get the last couple exteriors done.


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Well then, you still have 6 more Trumpet Blasts to finish up. thumbsup

Times a wasting.

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If you cease feeding the troll maybe he will die and go away . A poster once described him as a caricature and that hit the nail on the head . Even if he is a real person ( doubt that very much btw ) engaging in any kind of debate is an exercise in futility .

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If you cease feeding the troll maybe he will die and go away . A poster once described him as a caricature and that hit the nail on the head . Even if he is a real person ( doubt that very much btw ) engaging in any kind of debate is an exercise in futility .


Yep. The delusional troll is off his meds again. So detatched from reality that he is hearing things and living in a make believe world in his head... So sad to see schizophrenia play out in people you know. Socialized healthcare could have helped him before it got to this...

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Have a little fun on a quiet Sunday night and like clockwork the Triggered, Bitter Snowflakes are sure to return hurling insults. rolleyes

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His comment about Moore vs. Franken... You can't even compare the two! Franken had one accuser, an adult BTW, he apologized publicly TWICE and she accepted his apology. She also said she didn't want him to resign or step down over this! What Franken did was wrong, but you can't be more upset than the victim.
So an apology makes sexual assault ok? Gotcha, well then, at the very least our prisons should have some openings now. You know, once all the sexual assaulters apologize we can let them all free!

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Trump's favorite mouthpiece. this administration man.....

Kellyanne Conway's New Position On Roy Moore: We Need His Tax Bill Vote

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kellyanne-conway-reverses-course-roy-143726033.html

Kellyanne Conway suggested Monday that Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore’s potential to help pass the GOP’s tax bill outweighs the mounting child molestation accusations against him &#8213; a stance that represents a major shift from comments she made last week on the matter.

“Whatever the facts end up being, the premise, of course, the principle, the incontrovertible principle, is that there is no Senate seat worth more than a child,” the White House counselor told “Fox & Friends” on Thursday in response to allegations that Moore sexually molested teen girls when he was in his 30s.

But on Monday, Conway seemed all but ready to throw Moore’s accusers under the bus in exchange for the candidate’s potential to help pass the GOP’s tax bill.

“So vote Roy Moore?” asked “Fox & Friends” co-host Brian Kilmeade after Conway bashed Doug Jones, Moore’s Democratic opponent in the race.

“I’m telling you that we want the votes in the Senate to get this tax bill through,” Conway responded.

Conway also suggested that “the media” isn’t truly concerned about sexual abuse allegations, noting that Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) “still has his job” after being accused last week of forcibly kissing and groping a woman in 2006. Franken issued an apology.

Moore has denied all allegations that he sexually harassed or assaulted teenage girls when he was in his 30s. The Republican National Committee and high-ranking GOP lawmakers have ditched their support for him, but Moore has refused to drop out of the race.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) have called on Moore to drop out of the race. President Donald Trump has remained noticeably silent on the matter, despite slamming Franken just hours after news broke of sexual assault allegations.

Conway hesitated on Monday when the Fox hosts pointed out Moore’s rapid decline in support, specifically from women.

“Right,” Conway said. “And you know what? I just want everybody to know Doug Jones &#8213; nobody ever says his name and pretends he is some kind of conservative Democrat in Alabama. And he’s not.”


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

- Theodore Roosevelt
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