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Every time I think of the browns, I feel dead inside.


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Kizer gave us the death blow.

But make no mistake. This L is on the defense.


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When GB tied it up I knew it would be another loss. It's happened so much in the past as a Browns fan you just know it. 0-16 here we come.

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Hue is such a bad coach that it makes me question the idea of him getting another season. This team is Pettine bad.

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SSDD who cares only thing i have to look forward to is hue jumping in the lake

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Wait a minute Swish, That means everyone's favorite coach = Gregg Williams would have to held responsible. Naw, we can't do that. How about Gregg Blitzing every down and then wondering why the D is tired. Or how GB was hitting those 5 yard completions DOWN THE FIELD. Did Gregg adjust = NOPE!

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1-28 You can spin it anyway you want it's still 1-28 !!! tsktsk


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My only post game thought is the same one I've had pretty much all year.

Wake me when one of our drafted guys makes a play to help the Browns win.

Garrett is so disappointing. He has no impact on the game unless it's on a stunt. He's consistently blocked one on one. Loafed quite a bit today.

This guy was the first OVERALL pick in the draft.

Just doesn't seem fair.

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We need to fire Hue and bring back Martin Edward Schottenheimer.

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Hue is such a bad coach that it makes me question the idea of him getting another season. This team is Pettine bad.


Petting was 7-9 his first year.

This is completely something else.

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Wait a minute Swish, That means everyone's favorite coach = Gregg Williams would have to held responsible. Naw, we can't do that. How about Gregg Blitzing every down and then wondering why the D is tired. Or how GB was hitting those 5 yard completions DOWN THE FIELD. Did Gregg adjust = NOPE!


This game made it painfully obvious that our coaches cannot put together a full game.

Our players made mistakes, but for the most part, it was in difficult situations that other teams just don't put their players in. Then we moan that the players suck, and the cycle continues.

Hue Jackson and Gregg Williams need to go. I can't watch them do this to another group of young players next year. It shouldn't be taking Haslam this long to figure out where the problem is.

Jackson is now 9-35 as a head coach.

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Look on Hue's face as he was taking off his gloves looked like he knew he was taking off Brown's gloves for the last time.






















I hope, anyway.

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Browns being the Browns. I blame the uniforms. LOL


The Browns finally have a leader in the building. It won't be long before Jim Schwartz is in charge. Thankfully.
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Had Hue not hired Greg we would have won.

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Garrett was only good when Ogbah was on the other side.

He’s fell off the cliff ever since ogbah got hurt.

The secondary playing 10 yards off was god awful annoying. They nickel and dimed us the entire game.

McCourty got handled by Adams all day.

Njoku’s drop was a back breaker. That would’ve kept the clock running with the ball on offense.

Oh...guys, we missed FOUR FREAKING SACKS.

How does a defense miss on four different potential sacks. I just don’t get it.


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This was definitely a GPODAWUND game


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the team battled hard....


being a browns fan is like taking your dog to vet every week to be put down...
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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Hue is such a bad coach that it makes me question the idea of him getting another season. This team is Pettine bad.


Petting was 7-9 his first year.

This is completely something else.


Pettine had 9 pro bowlers on that team. The team constantly gave up, was exhausted by the 3rd quarter, gave up a bunch of dumb turnovers, and couldn't tackle. Pettine wouldn't even sniff a W on this team. Hue's got no one, but has a lot of the same systemic problems.

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This is the path the front office chose and Hue signed on to. Hue picked his staff and right or wrong it reflects on him.

I don't know if he can right this ship or not but I've had enough about youth. It's a young man's game
and there's many a young men playing it well. Nobody feels bad for Cleveland because they chose this path. It's a tough league and it's tougher for incompetent boobs.

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I tried to watch Hue's presser but after the second time he said he'd need to watch the tape I almost put my fist through my laptop.

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Blame it on the ST's,that guy doesn't get that big return,different game.
Blame it on the TE,that has trouble catching.
Blame it on youth,blame it on Keyser,but you can't blame the coaches for this one.


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TABOR!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Hue is such a bad coach that it makes me question the idea of him getting another season. This team is Pettine bad.


( I like Pettine.)

The 2017 Browns: somebody help me out, how many times did we lose to a 2nd string quarterback?

I think it's 0-3 now.
I'm sure Indianapolis, and Green Bay today, ... Minnesota?

Browns , we can't beat teams with backup Qb's this year, couldn't beat teams with injured Db's last, or 2 years ago.


Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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-3rd and 2... run the ball.. Crow may not be Gurley or Zeke, but the man had a 100+ yard game.. put your faith in him, and give him a FB to run behind!

- Gregg Williams vs. Brett Hundley. I would think I would take Gregg, but no. We are up 14! and Hundley wins with routes all less than 5 yards (hitches, screens, short outs, slants)... yet we still playing our cover LB 10 yards back, and our safeties 25 yards back... cmon man.. And then you send 5/6 every damn play on short routes!! wth.

- Special Teams... wtf... Louis. You are gone! Tabor.. Gone!


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How does tabor maintain his job.

What photos does he have in his possession, and on who!


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Its a bitter bitter pill.

I am not gonna over react.

As a whole they played much better.

I feel encouraged.

They still are too inexperienced to get the W.

That will come with time.


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This team played fairly well for three quarters. Obviously, they don't realize they need to play for 60 minutes.

Kiser played well enough till the very end when he threw what was a backyard football "pass" resulting in a pick. Rookies don't even do that.

Garret is only collecting a paycheck. He's the Kenny Britt of the defense. I suspect he's more motivated about dinosaurs than football.

Crow has the worst footwork for a runningback but he played a heckuva game.

Williams has no safties to work with and then insists on playing them 30 yards off the line.

Speaking of safties, Nacua needs his head examined. Bonehead penalty...

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Bron Bron live tweeted at the end of the Browns game....


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It's sad because he's not even a Browns fan.

I like that he cares though. It's showing a commitment to the city. Think it bodes well for next year.

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I love the Cleveland Browns but man I don't know how much more I can take and these guys on here that say were stupid or ignorant for wanting a new HC explain to us why if he is such a great coach how can he not find a way to win more than 1 game in nearly 2 years, no other NFL coach has ever lost at such a high rate? superconfused

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Originally Posted By: Swish
How does tabor maintain his job.

What photos does he have in his possession, and on who!


Because he is a good coach.

Why don't people understand he's been a part of 3 or 4 rebuilds and when depth begins to grow, there is a new regime change. Don't blame him. Blame Jimmy.

Just when his ST is top 10, a new regime come ins to play.


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Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
I love the Cleveland Browns but man I don't know how much more I can take and these guys on here that say were stupid or ignorant for wanting a new HC explain to us why if he is such a great coach how can he not find a way to win more than 1 game in nearly 2 years, no other NFL coach has ever lost at such a high rate? superconfused


Weren't you listening this week?

No one has given him the players he needs.

It's not Hue's fault!

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While most of the blame goes to this pitiful defensive scheme, Kizer blew this game with the pick at the half, that could have been 3 points, and then that pee wee league attempt in OT.

Every team does the same thing in the 4th quarter, and Williams can't stop it. prevent defense prevents you from winning.


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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
I love the Cleveland Browns but man I don't know how much more I can take and these guys on here that say were stupid or ignorant for wanting a new HC explain to us why if he is such a great coach how can he not find a way to win more than 1 game in nearly 2 years, no other NFL coach has ever lost at such a high rate? superconfused


Weren't you listening this week?

No one has given him the players he needs.

It's not Hue's fault!


1-28 that says it all ...


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How does tabor maintain his job.

What photos does he have in his possession, and on who!


Shashi din't give him the players to win.

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Hue is just unlucky that' s all. Just unlucky frown

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When you are 0-13, it's time to take a hard look at the Runningbacks!

Mathew Dayes played a Bunch in week 1 vs the Steelers.

And nary an offensive down since.

Yet! Does Hue Jackson have any control over this?

Over getting Matthew Dayes onto the field, when he's out there returning punts, kicks, so he's obviously healthy.

I'd Think HUE has Every opportunity to put Dayes in?

I mean, if it ain't working, for 8-9-10 games in a row?

You can't make a change and try it?

Is Hue Jackson doing everything he can to figure out something?


Trying different options, mixing things up?


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Originally Posted By: Homewood Dog
Hue is just unlucky that' s all. Just unlucky frown


Hue blamed players, ST and defense for the loss.

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today was the biggest turtle tap I recieved all year...


I bet you're wondering the samething I did, why O' why didn't I take the...blue pill
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Originally Posted By: Homewood Dog
Hue is just unlucky that' s all. Just unlucky frown


I think he let ego override common sense! This FO setup should have triggered a "No thanks" reply to the offer.
Not take it and then try to subvert it via social media.

He lowered himself IMO. I don't find myself in his corner like I had been since all this.

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