I don't think mayfield will be an amazing nfl qb... I'd put Jackson or Allen in front of him if we miss/pass on dwrnold or Rosen
If you asked me to pick one quarterback in this draft to bet my entire life savings on, I'm hitching my wagon to Baker Mayfield. He's a for sure thing.
He's anything but a sure thing. He has terrible footwork and plays in an offense that doesn't translate to NFL success very easily. The things that make him successful in college will be a much tougher go in the NFL. He seems to have the drive to be successful so anything is possible but it won't be an easy transition as you're making it, especially with his limited physical tools.
Watched Mayfield a lot this year...at least 6-7 games.
1. His OL is not that good as he is under pressure a lot. 2. I don't there is one QB in college that doesn't go downfield as much as Mayfield does. 3. I fell in love with him as he dropped back to pass and had somebody right in his face with the Bull in a China shop charge and he threw it while getting him to a WR on a 20 yard out with a man all over him. PERFECT throw to the outside hands of the WR where only he could make the catch. With no available follow through. I was sold after seeing that play, and it was one of many!
Watched Mayfield a lot this year...at least 6-7 games.
1. His OL is not that good as he is under pressure a lot. 2. I don't there is one QB in college that doesn't go downfield as much as Mayfield does. 3. I fell in love with him as he dropped back to pass and had somebody right in his face with the Bull in a China shop charge and he threw it while getting him to a WR on a 20 yard out with a man all over him. PERFECT throw to the outside hands of the WR where only he could make the catch. With no available follow through. I was sold after seeing that play, and it was one of many!
jmhobservation.
I hear you, we all want THAT QB but if he's told not to go downfield after five ints in the first game? (because that kind of "fling it" style doesnt translate well into the NFL usually because the players are so quick) Then will he be the guy we want? Just a thought.
Based on what Rosen is reported to have said about the Browns ... I hope so too. I have not seen much of Baker Mayfield or Josh Allen so .... I am not for sure saying Darnold, more so 'not Rosen' based on what he has said.
Not drafting Rosen based on his desires would be so Browns.
Draft the best quarterback, no matter what he says. He'll report to the team.
Agreed, Rish, but he's prob not the best for us, we need a big guy who can pass, not a small guy who can pass. I think though that the new GM will get us a QB then we will see if Hue has the stuff.
Yeah lets not even consider him cause after all in a heated game that the other team was giving it to him (wouldn't shake his hand before the game with the captains toss) Late hitting him. So after he put a nail in their coffin he grabbed his junk...oh no the horror.
It wasn't just hitting him late, it was intentionally squaring up late and aiming to hit him in his throwing shoulder. It was literally a clear and blatant attempt to injure Mayfield.
My big frustration is that Mayfield has been dragged through the mud for grabbing his crotch, but the disgusting antics from the Kansas players is just happily accepted as part of the game.
The footage shows the Kanas players...
1. Refusing to shake hands at the captains midfield meeting. When your team captains are making unprofessional displays, it speaks volumes.
2. Consistent abuse and trash talk that went beyond anything normal. Baker had a players cussing him out on damn near every play.
3. Multiple late/cheap shots on Mayfield. One on a touchdown, another from Hansan Defense that, if I was an NFL GM, would have taken him off my draft board due to his deliberate attempt to injure another player.
They do all that, and Mayfield dominates them on the field before grabbing his crotch and says FU. Good on him.
I can understand people being disappointed in general with that kind of behaviour on the field, but I can't for the life of me figure out why KU gets a pass on that disgusting behaviour but Mayfield is the bad guy.
I haven't followed this, it reminds me of some thing Brett Favre might do. But I remember Brett Favre was always smilely and friendly , overly friendly, to the defenders who actually had a chance to injure him, But when his Packers Cut him and moved on to Rogers,
I remember Brett Farve, at near 41 years old, going back and throwing 3 touchdowns for the Vikings, against the Packers, in a real stick it to you kind of move.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
It's pretty amazing. As much as people want to launch a character assassination on the kid for a couple of minor mistakes, they can't take away from the fact he is respected by everyone involved with the Sooners program for his leadership and work ethic.
It reminds me of when Dak Prescott got done for a DUI pre-draft and people wanted to paint him as having character issues, despite his clear positives.
You don't earn that kind of respect if you're a douche.
I don't think mayfield will be an amazing nfl qb... I'd put Jackson or Allen in front of him if we miss/pass on dwrnold or Rosen
If you asked me to pick one quarterback in this draft to bet my entire life savings on, I'm hitching my wagon to Baker Mayfield. He's a for sure thing.
He's anything but a sure thing. He has terrible footwork and plays in an offense that doesn't translate to NFL success very easily. The things that make him successful in college will be a much tougher go in the NFL. He seems to have the drive to be successful so anything is possible but it won't be an easy transition as you're making it, especially with his limited physical tools.
Anyone see that Earl Thomas essentially confirmed he'll be a free agent by running down the tunnel following the Cowboys/Seahawks game and saying to Jason Garrett, "Come get me"?
The Cowboys are projected to have only $15M in cap space with a bunch of players to sign. Over the next few seasons, they've got a bunch of guys who are going to earn huge contracts. They don't have the kind of money needed to sign an Earl Thomas calibre player.
A nice start towards fixing the Browns would be to throw some money at Earl Thomas.
That would be a good get. I was thinking we would address FS early in the draft, but Thomas would DEFINITELY work as well.
If we got Thomas, that would free up a high pick for another playmaker.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
A nice start towards fixing the Browns would be to throw some money at Earl Thomas.
There are not many more players I would like to have than Earl Thomas. I would say there is nearly a zero percent chance he would sign with us no matter how much money we offered him.
A nice start towards fixing the Browns would be to throw some money at Earl Thomas.
There are not many more players I would like to have than Earl Thomas. I would say there is nearly a zero percent chance he would sign with us no matter how much money we offered him.
I agree it is a long shot, but if the Browns are offering $20M more over the duration of his contract than anyone else, with more guaranteed money, it can be hard to turn that down.
For a player with his leadership, profile and talent, that kind of overpayment is worth it, in my opinion.
resigning crow release Taylor extend McCourty sign the best CB on the market sign the best RT on the market
then in the draft:
trade back with the giants to 2, grab the best FS on the board at #2, then draft Lamar Jackson with the #4 or #5 pick.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
This certainly makes me think you haven't watched Dak play lately and that maybe you don't realize that Russel Wilson doesn't look as good as he used to either.
You do understand that Mayfield comes from a system that leaves a lot of question marks left to be answered as to how he will transition into the NFL, right?
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
I don't think mayfield will be an amazing nfl qb... I'd put Jackson or Allen in front of him if we miss/pass on dwrnold or Rosen
If you asked me to pick one quarterback in this draft to bet my entire life savings on, I'm hitching my wagon to Baker Mayfield. He's a for sure thing.
He's anything but a sure thing. He has terrible footwork and plays in an offense that doesn't translate to NFL success very easily. The things that make him successful in college will be a much tougher go in the NFL. He seems to have the drive to be successful so anything is possible but it won't be an easy transition as you're making it, especially with his limited physical tools.
huh? what limited physical tools?
Limited size, limited speed for the style of play, limited arm strength. Mayfield is a great college player, and could very well be a great NFL player, but there are some hurdles that are going to be tough for him to overcome.
He isn't Russell Wilson, but he plays like it in college. He can't play like that in the NFL because he isn't nearly as physically gifted as Wilson. He will have to adapt his style of play, which is really hard to do. Changing what has made you successful is hard to do and still be successful.
This certainly makes me think you haven't watched Dak play lately and that maybe you don't realize that Russel Wilson doesn't look as good as he used to either.
You do understand that Mayfield comes from a system that leaves a lot of question marks left to be answered as to how he will transition into the NFL, right?
If we keep Hue, we are doomed no matter what. He corrupts everything. He should be 0-32 but got lucky with Meder blocking that field goal. He will try to make the QB fit his goofy system instead of catering to his strengths. With Matt Nagy or Matt Lafleur as head coach Baker will flourish and will light it up. He tremendous feet and will easily put up big numbers. Great accuracy, touch and spirit.
Exciting football will be back in Cleveland this fall!
Fans will be fans, but there's no doubt Mayfield will have a very successful NFL career.
No doubt. LMFAO.
I need to pin this sucker so I can pull it out in about 3 years when he's no longer in the league. Maybe he can reminisce about his playing days with Johnny.
No doubt. Give me a break. EVERYONE in the draft has "doubts".
Fear us, for we are the BROWNS, led by the mighty BM! Only in Cleveland.
When Baker gets here, it will be the highest selling jersey of all time!!
As it was with JFF.
That experiment turned out pretty well for us. Might as well go back to that well. After all - draft day is our super bowl and jersey sales are our gauge of success.
Fear us, for we are the BROWNS, led by the mighty BM! Only in Cleveland.
I haven't watched any games of any of the top 4 (Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield or Allen) .... but did a quick google and found this breakdown of Mayfield vs JFF. It seems a pretty decent breakdown.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
When Baker gets here, it will be the highest selling jersey of all time!!
As it was with JFF.
That experiment turned out pretty well for us. Might as well go back to that well. After all - draft day is our super bowl and jersey sales are our gauge of success.
Come on, Pettine hated Johnny and never put him in a position to win. If we had Johnny this year, we would have 5-8 wins.
Exciting football will be back in Cleveland this fall!
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