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The whole organization can go jump in a lake...

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he should quit before that happens


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funny how the glory days were 4 to 7 wins a year..


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Originally Posted By: mgh888
Is Peter King a Browns fan? Over the years I have always felt like he has a soft spot for the team and wants them to do well. It's not like PK is a hack or gossip monger - King is actual a journalist and I always enjoy reading his pieces or hearing him talk on the radio. . . . and anyway there is a world of difference from listening to and applying any advice.


I believe he went to college in Ohio, and his roommate, who I think is also famous but can't place the name, was a huge Browns fan. He said he learned about the passion of Browns fans during that time.

I remember hearing him talk about this on the radio one time. It was something to this effect.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I think Grossi only knows that Haslam has never asked him about the Browns...that is about it.


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I think Grossi only knows that Haslam has never asked him about the Browns...that is about it.


I am eternally grateful to Haslam for that. thumbsup

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I just read Hue is going to jump in the lake, and I can't believe it. He Shouldn't, He shouldn't He shouldn't.
Keep his word, my foot!

think of all the Greatest coaches of All time, if they were in this situation.

Do it or not, they would have a very differen't attitude toward it!

to this point, my problem is not with anything other than Hue's (public), apparent, non-chalant, accepting attitude toward being in this situation.

Do it or not, Jump or no Jump, This guy should be OUTRAGED AS HECK.
Not smiling like he's taking the ice bucket challenge for charity!
This is losing a statement that you wouldn't be 1-15 or worse for a 2nd year in a row.

Think of ANY of the greatest coaches of all time, and put them in this situation, and ask yourself what public, even public attitude toward the situation would be.
Selfish! Masoginistic! Too much Cahones! A-words! ARe what we need at a Head Coach!

We don't need a (?)(was going to say yes man, but it's not fair to say it), (politicican type), (goes along to get along), (take whatever comes), (pass the buck),

Kind of guy to be your head coach.

Accepting of the losing?

He's not only accepting of the Losing, He's evidently accepting of having to jump in the lake because of it,
and he's apparently going to do it with a smile on his face!

This guy needs to Go, Yesterday. Next Sunday afternoon can't get here fast enough.

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This is the first time someone is being held accountable for their actions in Berea in years and you want them to not do it?

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If Hue actually jumps into the lake, in winter, and can somehow manage to get Haslem to do it with him, I’ll get off his butt and agree to give him one more season. I think both those guys should be cold fish and owning it gives them some points.


Only if He starts winning, or at least starts acting like he isn't accepting of the not winning would I consider starting to like that he's the coach.

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
This is the first time someone is being held accountable for their actions in Berea in years and you want them to not do it?


Yes I think it's a further embaresment to the organization.
I think, somehow think, the owners have a commitment to waiting until seasons end to change the Head coach,

I think the day after he's not the head coach anymore that it's a moot point and better for everybody to get to work on the future.

And it's not as you say, "held accountable for their actions", it is , held accountable for team results.
Which if everyone else is to blame for results, then doing this can be construed to be a personal sacrifice for the greater good.

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In Fact! If he does jump in the lake! And If I had the power to do it!

I'd Fire him for Jumping in the lake!

Wearing this teams colors? As a representative of this organization?

If he does jump in the lake I hope he does it in wearing another teams Jersey!

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Really? Embarrassment any further than this organization has embarrassed itself is not possible...

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If I remember correctly, he said he would jump in the lake if we went 1'fer again. I'm expecting him to snake his way out of it, because technically, if we go 0'fer, he'll be off the hook.


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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
I just read Hue is going to jump in the lake, and I can't believe it. He Shouldn't, He shouldn't He shouldn't.
Keep his word, my foot!

think of all the Greatest coaches of All time, if they were in this situation.


Maybe this is what Hue Jackson was talking about when he said he was the only coach in the NFL that could handle this situation. . .

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Hue Jackson's press conference this time next year if he is retained:

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“It’s the last rodeo, is what I told them,” Pagano said, via the team’s website. “I had a picture of a guy on a bucking bronco with the spurs on it. It’s our last ride together. No team that I’ve ever been a part of has ever been the same, regardless of the record. That’s just the National Football League. This is our last rodeo together. We’re going to enjoy and embrace every single second of it and get obsessed with completion. That’s what successful people do — they get obsessed with completion. We need to complete this season. No better way than to go out with a win.”


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Ummmm ... no one was thrown under the bus ... u sure this is what Hue’s last presser will look like? ...

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Originally Posted By: oobernoober
If I remember correctly, he said he would jump in the lake if we went 1'fer again. I'm expecting him to snake his way out of it, because technically, if we go 0'fer, he'll be off the hook.


He's already confirmed he's going to do it. I love it, but I don't like that he's turning it in to a media spectacle and a big deal for charity.

Personally, I think it should be done privately with all players in attendance to reflect on what this season has been. Taking a moment for all involved to acknowledge that this is a low point for the franchise. That Hue made his comments thinking there was no way this team could possible struggle so much. Yet, in spite of that, they have.

The team should release some photos of a soaking wet head coach, addressing his players, reminding them of his belief but acknowledging the failure this season has been.

Trying to turn it in to some big media spectacle for charity just makes this franchise look awful. Media from across the nation will fly out for their LOLBROWNS headline. It's disgusting.

Personally, I think it's a decision that was made largely in the hopes that it will satisfy the disgusting "fans" who are trying to organize an 0-16 parade.

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If I remember correctly, he said he would jump in the lake if we went 1'fer again. I'm expecting him to snake his way out of it, because technically, if we go 0'fer, he'll be off the hook.


He's already confirmed he's going to do it. I love it, but I don't like that he's turning it in to a media spectacle and a big deal for charity.

Personally, I think it should be done privately with all players in attendance to reflect on what this season has been. Taking a moment for all involved to acknowledge that this is a low point for the franchise. That Hue made his comments thinking there was no way this team could possible struggle so much. Yet, in spite of that, they have.

The team should release some photos of a soaking wet head coach, addressing his players, reminding them of his belief but acknowledging the failure this season has been.

Trying to turn it in to some big media spectacle for charity just makes this franchise look awful. Media from across the nation will fly out for their LOLBROWNS headline. It's disgusting.

Personally, I think it's a decision that was made largely in the hopes that it will satisfy the disgusting "fans" who are trying to organize an 0-16 parade.
This organization deserves an 0-16 parade for keeping Hue as coach!


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If Hue jumps in the lake, and embaresses me and all other Browns fans with this spectacle, that will never go away!

It will never go away from Cleveland just like the references to the river catching on fire have not gone away.

0-16 or not, He doesn't have to do it.

3 more days, and hopefully Haslem will Can him, and we can move on from the nonsense and the Browns can start to do anything that gives us hope again.

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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
If Hue jumps in the lake, and embaresses me and all other Browns fans with this spectacle, that will never go away!

It will never go away from Cleveland just like the references to the river catching on fire have not gone away.

0-16 or not, He doesn't have to do it.

3 more days, and hopefully Haslem will Can him, and we can move on from the nonsense and the Browns can start to do anything that gives us hope again.


If you aren't already embarrassed to be a Browns fan, I'm not sure what to say. They are an embarrassment to the NFL, the city of Cleveland and all their fans world wide. The entire organization needs to be re-booted (correctly this time). Just have everyone leave and start over some time down the road. Jimmy Haslam should be prevented from EVER being associated with the NFL. He is nothing more than a lying scumbag thief. I hope karma finds him someday and provides him with what he has provided Browns fans during his time as owner. That day cannot arrive too soon.


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This organization deserves an 0-16 parade for keeping Hue as coach!


Actually, the parade organizers deserve to have Jimmy and Hue out in front of the parade so fans can let them know EXACTLY how they feel about their efforts and "NFL" product. Free rotten tomatoes and eggs should be provided. You guys need to clean up after the parade? Go jump in the lake TOGETHER. That would be awesome.


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If Hue's willing to back up his word by jumping in the lake...more power to him.

Too many people live their lives by a double standard...what they say they will do and what they actually do.

I believe Haslam, Depodesta along with Andy Berry, should join Hue when he takes his dip in the lake.

Losing like the Browns have in the last two years is about a 100 times more painful than jumping in the lake. I've been in the water in January..that ain't nothing compared to the pain I've felt since "analytics" was introduced as the savior of the Browns in Jan. 2016.

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This organization deserves an 0-16 parade for keeping Hue as coach!


Actually, the parade organizers deserve to have Jimmy and Hue out in front of the parade so fans can let them know EXACTLY how they feel about their efforts and "NFL" product. Free rotten tomatoes and eggs should be provided. You guys need to clean up after the parade? Go jump in the lake TOGETHER. That would be awesome.
Amen! We need to commemorate Hue, Jimmy and Dee as the worst team in NFL history!


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FAns wanting a parade for 0-16. Owner wants to retain a coach thats 1-31 come sunday. Hue gonna jump in the lake when its convenient for him (imagine that means July). Just makes me really wonder why in the hell I would ever cheer for this team.

text gate and Johny wearing a disguise was about as low as I thought this team could get. Those were the glory days.

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Ill throw a hypothetical out there, what would our record be with a coach, any coach who you guys think is a legit hall of fame coach who is coaching right now? Do we still go 1-29? For example: does this team go 1-29 under Belichick? Just a question......
Easily 7-9 wins with a good offensive minded coach. Kizer would not be QB. McCown would have been retained and the coach would have insisted on Watson, Wentz, Mahommes or Tribisky. Hue is worse than people really understand!!


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Seriously, man... just out with it.... Where did Hue touch you? Point to the area on the doll.


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Ill throw a hypothetical out there, what would our record be with a coach, any coach who you guys think is a legit hall of fame coach who is coaching right now? Do we still go 1-29? For example: does this team go 1-29 under Belichick? Just a question......
Easily 7-9 wins with a good offensive minded coach. Kizer would not be QB. McCown would have been retained and the coach would have insisted on Watson, Wentz, Mahommes or Tribisky. Hue is worse than people really understand!!


I am almost 100% certain (as an example) that the coaches wanted Haden to stay, given that they were publicly irritated when he was cut. I bet that Hue probably wanted to keep an experienced QB, but was undercut by the front office. This team was gutted of experience, at so many positions, that it made winning extremely difficult.


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
This team was gutted of experience, at so many positions, that it made winning extremely difficult.


1. It's almost like that was the plan.

2. That's still not an excuse for only winning one game in two years.

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Seriously, man... just out with it.... Where did Hue touch you? Point to the area on the doll.
I just rolled! This is the funniest post this year!! ROFLMAO


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I don't want Hue to jump into 35 degree Lake Erie. A healthy person would be at risk of cardiac arrest at that temp, and Hue's in his 50's. If he insists he's going to do it, he should wait 'til July.

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If Hue is let go in 3 days, 5 pm Sunday afternoon, I just might celebrate.

Wait a second: the Whole world might celebrate,

Rome, France, New York, everybody. saywhat

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He's jumping in the lake not because he is accepting LOSING...man how did you come up with that one??? lol laugh

He's jumping in cause he said he would if we repeated last years record (or in this case possibly worse)

Of course he might wait till the weather gets warmer cause he stated that he will pick the time and place wink

But non chalant? well he is not panicking yes, that is true. But punishing himself for going 1-15 or worse in what universe does that come out to accepting losing. superconfused


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I don’t really want to think about or talk about it much, but I will say that any time you make a change in an organization on the coaching staff or you make a change in the organization, there’s a one step back that you have to take and that’s just a part of making a change,” Thomas said in a conference call Dec. 21, a day after the Browns were pummeled, 30-13, by the Seahawks. “You’re going to get a lot of new players. You’re going to get new coaches, new people in the building.

“It does take time to teach people the new philosophy, the new procedures, the new schemes, and certainly this NFL game is something that takes more than one or two years to be really good in a scheme. There’s a level of proficiency that you can get in a year to be OK, but it really takes a few years in a scheme before you can get really good at something.”


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“I’d be very surprised if they made a change,” seven-time Pro Bowl left tackle and offensive captain Joe Thomas said. “And I’d be very disappointed.

“You look at the great franchises. They don’t fire your coach after the first season. You can’t do it.”

Thomas said Chudzinski’s dismissal would not only be the wrong move, but it also “would be devastating” for the Browns, who have had six full-time head coaches since their expansion era began in 1999. Chud­zinski was the fourth since 2008. The Steelers, who barely missed out on a playoff berth after beating the Browns to finish 8-8, have had three head coaches since 1969.

“It sets everything back,” Thomas said. “You just hit the reset button. Anytime you hit the reset button, it severely damages the organization, and it lengthens the amount of time that it takes to get back to the playoffs and turn the team into a consistent winner. … I think that this organization needs continuity and that’s the only chance that we’re going to have to turn this team into a consistent winner.”


https://www.ohio.com/akron/writers/browns-fire-coach-rob-chudzinski-after-one-season-on-job

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"I think Hue really has not been given the opportunity yet to prove what kind of coach he is," Thomas said. "From a wins and losses standpoint, obviously, the plan for a few years here was to try to attain the highest draft picks possible, which is what we have successfully done. Unfortunately, as that is going on, the coaches have a hard time winning any games because of the depth that they are given to play with."


http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/12/joe_thomas_on_the_state_of_the.html

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Originally Posted By: Dave
I don't want Hue to jump into 35 degree Lake Erie. A healthy person would be at risk of cardiac arrest at that temp, and Hue's in his 50's. If he insists he's going to do it, he should wait 'til July.


More excuses...

Know some 80+ that have no problems jumping on icy water.

I don't think Hue should jump in the lake, he should be thrown, covered in feathers and tar...

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I thought he said he'd do it before it froze.

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Originally Posted By: devicedawg

I thought he said he'd do it before it froze.


This is so laughable and translates so well his character ....

Miserable bum...

Just frigging do it, no press release, no nothing.... take the frigging cloths and jump in the frigging lake..

Its not that hard. And this is not a celebration...

This should be his final act in Cleveland, jump in the lake and swim to the horizon....

What a friggin cokroach

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But what would Joe Thomas know? I mean he only works with these players and coaches every day. He's only watched, four or five coaching changes since he's been here?

Nah, a bunch of people on a message board know way more than Joe Thomas.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
But what would Joe Thomas know? I mean he only works with these players and coaches every day. He's only watched, four or five coaching changes since he's been here?

Nah, a bunch of people on a message board know way more than Joe Thomas.


Hue is 1-30 as a HC here...about to be 1-31. No player's opinion can override that indisputable fact.

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You do realize that fact isn't isolated to those numbers alone, right?


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