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most of the time it just seems easy for him. Like he's playing a pickup game in the backyard.. then you watch the replay and see all the things he's doing to get the defense in the position he wants


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Every time I watch Mayfield, he reminds me of Favre. Both the good and the bad.

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I do think if we had never drafted Manziel, that opinions would sway on Mayfield...I mean I like him, he plays and works hard and has moxie...I however don't feel he is worth anywhere near a #1 overall pick...regardless where and when he goes, this is a great game.

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Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs
I do think if we had never drafted Manziel, that opinions would sway on Mayfield...I mean I like him, he plays and works hard and has moxie...I however don't feel he is worth anywhere near a #1 overall pick...regardless where and when he goes, this is a great game.




This is what Hue said about Wentz. We know how that worked out.

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stupid playcalling by OU


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I do think if we had never drafted Manziel, that opinions would sway on Mayfield...I mean I like him, he plays and works hard and has moxie...I however don't feel he is worth anywhere near a #1 overall pick...regardless where and when he goes, this is a great game.




This is what Hue said about Wentz. We know how that worked out.
Everything about Wentz and Mayfield are polar opposites...I see zero similarity between the two.

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I agree. Georgia more talented. Oklahoma had the best QB. Disappointed we won't see baker next week.

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Mayfield really crumbled in that second half. A little concerning how much worse he looked when the coverage got tighter. Those are NFL window throws, and Mayfield didn't at all seem comfortable.

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Baker played well, has cemented himself as worthy of a 1st round pick in my mind. However, he couldn't get much going after Georgia got his number in the second half. The windows were tighter, the pass rush was on him. Exactly what I wanted to see out of Georgia. Good game all around.

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Great game. Mayfield flashed in the first half. I'd still take Darnold over him and Rosen over both.


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I thought Baker was a baller and has a lot of moxie. That said..he could have won that game with 3 or 4 passes he missed on. Looks more like Colt McCoy than Carson Wentz to me..

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Originally Posted By: devicedawg
I agree. Georgia more talented. Oklahoma had the best QB. Disappointed we won't see baker next week.


Not sure I'd say Mayfield was the better QB. Fromm played well, even more so considering he's a freshman.

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I thought Baker was a baller and has a lot of moxie. That said..he could have won that game with 3 or 4 passes he missed on. Looks more like Colt McCoy than Carson Wentz to me..


I've been saying a stronger armed QB for the past month.


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Mayfield is an exciting competitor, with that being said I hope we don't draft him ...


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I stand behind my first take. He is not big or fast. He has football moxie and can spin it.

Shows good touch. It will be interesting to see where he is drafted and how he turns out.

He is not a top half of the first round pick.

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Outside of good accuracy and some decent arm strength, I thought he was pretty meh. Nothing Oklahoma runs on offense resembles anything at the professional level.

If the Browns draft Mayfield, I'm switching to the Eagles.

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Georgia has a very good defense.

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Originally Posted By: AlwaysABrownsFan
I thought Baker was a baller and has a lot of moxie. That said..he could have won that game with 3 or 4 passes he missed on. Looks more like Colt McCoy than Carson Wentz to me..



He's neither.

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Browns can't pass on Baker. He has to be the #1 pick. He's clearly a top 10 player and easily the best QB in the draft.

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Originally Posted By: devicedawg
Georgia has a very good defense.


They do, but the NFL has 31 good defenses.

I like Mayfield, I'm not against him, but we can't ignore that this draft lacks a definitive answer at quarterback. There are a lot of questions that need to be answered.

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I don't know about any scouting reports, but I don't want a midget QB. This from a guy who loves Doug Flutie.


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I don't know about any scouting reports, but I don't want a midget QB. This from a guy who loves Doug Flutie.


well i dunno about you but i'd take Wilson and Brees in a heartbeat.

I think Mayfield could be just as good.


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Georgia has a very good defense.


They do, but the NFL has 31 good defenses.

I like Mayfield, I'm not against him, but we can't ignore that this draft lacks a definitive answer at quarterback. There are a lot of questions that need to be answered.



Well everyone has their opinions but to me Mayfield is the definitive answer. He still put up 38 pts against a top 5 defense. I'm sure several people were expecting him get blown up, but even with an illness he played well.

His team scored 40+ points in 9 games including tonight. UCLA only did that 3 times. Too bad oklahoma doesn't have a defense.

I don't think it's close. Mayfield is the best quarterback.

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I like Mayfield a lot. But he seems risky as a first round pick because of his size. Not sure he can throw it like Brees and he is not as strong as Wilson. What about Mason Rudolph?

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Originally Posted By: pfm1963
I like Mayfield a lot. But he seems risky as a first round pick because of his size. Not sure he can throw it like Brees and he is not as strong as Wilson. What about Mason Rudolph?



Rudolph doesn't have the arm strength that Mayfield has. Baker much better prospect. Need to ignore height. It's not an issue for Baker.

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Can Baker take the hits he will be absorbing week after week?

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Can Baker take the hits he will be absorbing week after week?





Probably moreso than Rosen

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Personally, I think we should try to trade out of the #1 pick.

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Top 15 pick?




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Mayfield can go anywhere in the 1st round, I believe.

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I would only want to trade down a few spots. Maybe get barkley and fitzpatrick.

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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
horrible throw, but anyone else notice how little space the receivers are getting..GA is all over them


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One challenge for Mayfield-- doesn't pull trigger unless guys are way in the clear. Stays away from tight windows. That'll be a big adjustment at next level. Has to let it go.


https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/947991425920114688

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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Nothing Oklahoma runs on offense resembles anything at the professional level.


Didn't watch many Rams' games?

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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
horrible throw, but anyone else notice how little space the receivers are getting..GA is all over them


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One challenge for Mayfield-- doesn't pull trigger unless guys are way in the clear. Stays away from tight windows. That'll be a big adjustment at next level. Has to let it go.


https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/947991425920114688



Funny. He writes that article and then tweets that? I saw plenty of throws in tight windows.

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horrible throw, but anyone else notice how little space the receivers are getting..GA is all over them


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One challenge for Mayfield-- doesn't pull trigger unless guys are way in the clear. Stays away from tight windows. That'll be a big adjustment at next level. Has to let it go.


https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/947991425920114688



Funny. He writes that article and then tweets that? I saw plenty of throws in tight windows.


1. He can think he'll be a high pick and still have flaws.

2. You are completely in the tank for Baker Mayfield so no one can take you seriously when evaluating him.

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I don't know about any scouting reports, but I don't want a midget QB. This from a guy who loves Doug Flutie.


well i dunno about you but i'd take Wilson and Brees in a heartbeat.

I think Mayfield could be just as good.


Im not bashing mayfield, I don't know if he will be good, but I'm wary of small QBs once they get to he NFL.


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horrible throw, but anyone else notice how little space the receivers are getting..GA is all over them


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One challenge for Mayfield-- doesn't pull trigger unless guys are way in the clear. Stays away from tight windows. That'll be a big adjustment at next level. Has to let it go.


https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/947991425920114688



Funny. He writes that article and then tweets that? I saw plenty of throws in tight windows.


1. He can think he'll be a high pick and still have flaws.

2. You are completely in the tank for Baker Mayfield so no one can take you seriously when evaluating him.



Just pointing out he threw into tight windows.

Mayfield has his flaws, no need to be facetious.

The better evals are those who compare him to Johnny Manziel and consider him too short, or make up stuff about lack of arm strength,
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Originally Posted By: devicedawg
The better evals are those who compare him to Johnny Manziel and consider him too short, or make up stuff about lack of arm strength, right?


Both are bad.

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Draft two QB's. We have the draft capital to do that.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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The better evals are those who compare him to Johnny Manziel and consider him too short, or make up stuff about lack of arm strength, right?


Both are bad.



So my evaluation is bad because... it's accurate?

I'm not making stuff up about being weak armed or the next Johnny manziel or big 12 QBs never amount to anything.

If Mayfield was 2 inches taller he'd be the consensus #1 pick. He is not prototypical size, and he's been arrested. Those are the flaws that have been pointed out by several people. If those are the 2 reasons you don't want him so be it.

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