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Our reputation precedes us...egad! This is a real kick in the pants. I'd like to know how our owner is reacting to this...

Hue Jackson is the gift that keeps on giving.

This gets stranger and stranger.

Wouldn't it be ironic if getting to coach the senior bowl was a point of contention to keep Hue?

Looks like they declined, due to the movement of the staff.

https://www.ohio.com/akron/sports/browns...-bowl-this-year

Maybe Dorsey wanted a more competent coaching staff at the senior bowl.

That appears to be the author's guess.

Hue declined and I do not know why. He could have improved to 2-31.

This would have been a great opportunity to get a closer impression of the senior class and I don't understand why it was refused. The reason given seems rather weak...

Head Coach might be gone?

We're trusting Mary Kay Cabot over a year later, when Hue Jackson is trying to save his job, over Mike Silver, who is one of Huebris Jackson's best friends, right after the draft?

Hue doesn't seem to exhibit the air of confidence that he had shown earlier this season...

Green Bay fired basically their whole staff besides Mike McCarthy. I'd expect some of those guys to end up in Cleveland because of their ties to John Dorsey and Alonzo Highsmith.

I bet that most of our coaching staff will be fired. Hard to run a team on the fly when you don't have any coaches.

That would seem to be the most logical reason...

Yet another thread ruined by a few posters.

Refs, can you get these guys their own forum where they can only talk about how terrible Hue is? They are cluttering this forum w/their constant hate for Hue and we can't even have a rational discussion w/out having to wade through post after post of nonsense. They say the same damn things on each thread.

That is not Pure Football. It's cluttering, argumentative, hateful, and it ruins good threads.

In all fairness, it's the hottest topic right now and what's on many folks minds IMO. I mean, the guy went 1-31 in two seasons. You don't think there's gonna be quite a few posters that want a new head coach and are flabbergasted that he hasn't been fired?

It's a couple days after Black Monday. This is certainly to be expected. From the end of the season till a couple weeks after Black Monday. Especially in the "Coaches on the hot seat" forum.


I'm apprehensive about Hue at this point. I sure hope he doesn't screw up this OC hiring. Everything else is looking up. I just hope he doesn't hire this Bengals reject as OC. That'll make me really question keeping him.

I get nervous there's an ego thing going on here. Hiring this Sean Ryan and letting him call plays would make me feel better. Time for Hue to delegate some responsibility and oversee the team as a whole. Gameday and weekly/season preparation

Petey..........if he was going to be fired, he would have been fired by now. Come on........you have to know that. Right?

I'm not asking for people to believe in Hue, but there are a handful of posters who went off on anyone who dared question Sashi and are now ruining every thread w/the fire Hue crap.

Whatever......I'm about done.

Sashi was fired.

Hue is here.

Hue gets next year - or, some time next year, to put some W's on the board.

I was all for keeping everyone even as the season progressed. 3 year plan. We're set with picks. Sashi got fired. Okay. But now, seriously, in the last few games I was starting to think maybe Hue isn't the answer.

I hate turnover. It just doesn't work having a new GM, or new coach every 2.5 years.

But, Hue is now on the clock. W's are the only thing that will help him.

Fair enough. I didn't have much faith in Sashi. Although he managed to set us up with a lot of cap space and a bunch of picks for Dorsey to use. So that's the bright side of things.


I don't mind giving Hue a chance, but I certainly am not on the Hue train. And i'd feel a lot better if there was some agreements made between Hue and Haslam about hiring an OC, etc.

Looks like he will. I just hope he hires the best one for the team, and not what is going to make him "the happiest". I get nervous with these NFL guys and their egos. Seems to go with the territory a bit as these guys are ridiculously competitive.



But anyway, I think most folks would agree that Hue won't be fired at this point. The whole Trade Hue to the Bengals Pipe Dream for some posters has washed away too. But I can't blame folks for being bitter about Hue staying on.

Good post. I agree.

I said he deserved three full years. If he doesn't have some better results next year.........then it is time to make a change.

Great.............as long as you don't blame folks like me that are glad that Hue is staying.

Here is my bottom line:

I keep reading that Hue is 1 and 31.

I never read that about Sashi. Instead, I read where he has us set-up well for the future.

I will vigorously debate that Hue is not as responsible for our record as Sashi is. Shoot man........that was the plan.

The bottom line for me is that it was a dumb ass plan from the beginning because no football team can survive losing so many games.

Sashi's gone. Hue is here. Dorsey is here.

Things are looking up!!!

Thought you were ignoring me.

Oh well, who cares.

JMO - Hue gets a say in the draft. Hue coaches his tail off and starts getting some W's - Hue stays.

If he doesn't get some W's, how can he stay? He's 1-31 right now. He's endured a total re-do. That 3 year plan, right? This coming season, it's time to put up or shut up.

Oh Sashi deserves tons of blame. For godsakes, he set us up with the QB room this year. I mean, 21 year old, averagely successful (for an NFL Prospect) QB with two years of experience in college is going to take the reigns of this ridiculously young offense with that awful group of receivers?


Sashi simply didn't get it at all. Although the Kenny Britt pickup didn't help either. I thought Britt would be average. Shoulda just kept Pryor. Hopefully he'll be back next year. He and Hue have a connection

I was ignoring you. I took all of you guys off of ignore. I will respond politely if you address me politely. However, I am going to notify the refs each time [hopefully it doesn't happen] when you guys needlessly attack my character. I'm tired of being suspended for fights I don't start.

I wanted Hue fired but he is here, he is the HC of my favorite football team, so I will support him and hope he turns that record from 1-31 to 31-1 ... GO BROWNS

Unless Dorsey dies or sustains some sort of serious injury, want to bet? A friendly bet...we meet in Cleveland and the loser buys a top steak dinner at the winners choice of downtown
restaurants. Cocktail, starter, salad, steak and a side, dessert and after dinner brandy. No $100 bottles of wine or anything like that. Might cost $150 tops. We can cap it at $150 per person. That keeps it friendly.

My wife and I make a decent amount of money between the two of us. Not outrageous, but pretty good for people our age (early thirties).

I don't think I've ever spent 150$ per person on dinner in my life, lol.


Once in Greenwich CT some old lady client of my father's took us to a really fancy restaraunt. I imagine that tops 150$ per person. Place looked like a house with only three things on the menu. Small portions too.

I just can't imagine what 150$ a person in a meal looks like


EDIT: Oh, but I wouldn't take the bet against you Peen. I would take the one saying Dorsey stays though. Dorsey has a clean slate and a winning record as a GM. Hue is 1-31 for the Browns (and I think 7-9 for the Raiders). Odds in favor of Dorsey

I will make a bet w/you peen. You name the price. $100 per person. $150. $200.

I will bet that Hue is the coach on opening day in 2018.

Hell, I will make that bet w/a bunch of you. And if you afraid to make that bet...........perhaps you should shut the hell up about Hue being fired. No?

That wasn't the bet peen put out though.

I know. I made my own bet. Wanna take it?

How about we make this bet,,,,I will bet you $500 the sun shines somewhere on this world tomorrow?

What are you talking about?

I have already said Hue will be the coach next year.


I am not calling for his firing. I have said I hope he wins because that helps me. I just think he coaches himself out of a job. His one win was a fluke.

Think about that.


As for shutting the hell up....sorry, that won't happen.


Again, I hope the guy gets it even though he keeps saying he gets it.

You might want to word that a little differently.

Refs are watching.

Well peen, I think you are missing my point. Almost every thread on this forum has been derailed by posters calling for Hue's firing.

Shoot, Diam even started a thread about firing him.

He isn't going to be fired before the season starts. So, why do y'all need to keep discussing it?

I know why. And that leads me to ask y'all to stop the nonsense.

Frankly I am very surprised Hue is still the coach. 1-31 usually gets you canned. I understand our roster has little talent at important positions, but has anyone seen the decisions Hue makes during the games? There were times that I thought he could have been fired on the spot. Those ridiculous decisions are the major reason I want him fired.

Will you name those decisions, please?

I want to make something very clear to those who actually respect my opinion. This is not for those who don't.

I called plays for three different teams. I played the game. I coached the game. I even worked for a collegiate scouting service......albeit for only a short time.

I rarely question play calling in the NFL. I mean........almost never. And I called plays.

Yet, I am always reading posts [for decades] about how terrible our play calling is. I believe that many of the posters talking about play calling never called plays on any level other than Madden. I believe they never were a coach. I believe many of them never even played.

I think there are perhaps a handful of really terrible play calls each year. People make way more out of this and I believe most have no idea what they are talking about. I still remember "Metcalf up the middle." LOL........yeah, that was the call. Had nothing to do w/the blocking scheme, the fakes, the hole, etc. It was just "Metcalf up the middle."

Dumb.

I'll tell you what is dumb. Trying to defend Hue Jackson as a good NFL head coach.

Dumb.

Thanks.

Good. Now get off your high horse.