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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/27526...-of-2017-seasonFor outside receivers, in addition to gauging and adjusting for a player's personnel circumstances, Joe and Marcus based their grades on the following criteria:
Route Running: 30 points. Does this receiver run a full route tree? Can he beat cornerbacks on everything from angular routes in the slot to straight vertical routes up the boundary? How well does he fake and juke his way out of tight coverage? Does he make things easier for his quarterback by breaking to the ball at a friendly angle, or is he a step late? How well does he coordinate with his quarterback on option routes?
Hands: 25 points. Can this player make things easier for his quarterback by expanding his catch radius and bringing in badly thrown balls? Does he catch the ball away from his body and turn quickly to run, or does he bring it into his body and exhibit subpar technique? How well does he rip the ball away from defenders on contested catches?
YAC: 20 points. Once he makes a reception, how well can a player run out of coverage to gain yards after the catch? Regardless of his size, is he both agile and physical enough to get away from tacklers?
Blocking: 15 points. On both running and passing plays, how well does the player block for his teammates? Is he intent on making every play work, or does he tend to disappear if he's not the target?
Position Value: 8 points. This takes into account positional importance when comparing scores to other spots on the gridiron. Wide receivers are given 8/10 points across the board, leaving them with a maximum score of 98/100. 19. Josh Gordon, Cleveland Browns
Route Running: 20/30 Hands: 20/25 YAC: 14/20 Blocking: 8/15 Position Value: 8/10 Overall Grade: 70/100
The 6'3", 225-pound Gordon is a true No. 1 receiver. He can run every route with speed, precision and power and then make catches few can. After the reception, Gordon's size and speed stand out, and he drags tacklers and drops others with stiff arms. When he's on the field, he's a difference-maker. Unfortunately, due to off-field issues, he's missed significant time in his career. If he proves that he can be trusted to stay on the straight and narrow, he has the athletic potential to be a game-changing receiver, no matter how dysfunctional the offense around him may be 
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All he had to do is make it through the offseason.
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Dude needs to get into a training regimen and needs to stop playing basketball with Coates and Greg Little. Although I am looking forward to the eventual Cleveland Browns Basketball game after they go 0-16 again and give up football. I know ya'll saw Myles Garrett block that dunk.
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Any new Josh Gordon thread makes me nervous.
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You should add more words to the title. LOL I saw this thread and was afraid to open it. I thought he must have gotten busted again.
Maybe add Ranking to the title or something like that.
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I admit, it made me nervous too. lol
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I'm really hoping he makes it this time. We really need him to produce w/our new qb.
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I'm really hoping he makes it this time. We really need him to produce w/our new qb. As am I. This offseason is huge for him. Both physically and psychologically he made an immediate difference once he came back and defenses had to acknowledge and plan for him. Unfortunately, Coleman didn't seem to be able to capitalize on the defenses zeroing in on JG and become a significant threat on the wing or in the slot. Hopefully, he too can elevate his game in 2018.
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I was really afraid to open this one. As good as he is, the upside if he went after it harder is obviously there. Keep it clean, Josh! If he is having fun now, can you imagine him howling if we get this offense and a QB untracked? He seems casual at times. Fingers crossed, y'all. 
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Any new Josh Gordon thread makes me nervous. exactly
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Any new Josh Gordon thread makes me nervous. Ya as soon as I saw this thread I went here we go again.
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
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Was there any point to changing the title of the thread other than to get peoples blood pressure up?
WE DON'T NEED A QB BEFORE WE GET A LINE THAT CAN PROTECT HIM my two cents...
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Saw him and Greg Little playing 2 wks ago in Beachwood
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Any new Josh Gordon thread makes me nervous. Yep. As soon as I saw this thread? My heart literally sank.
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Any new Josh Gordon thread makes me nervous. Yep. As soon as I saw this thread? My heart literally sank. Strangely, that didn't happen for me. I was merely curious, with no baggage attached. Then I felt good reading the eval. It wasn't til I wandered into the "Battered Dawg" posts  , that I realized how conditioned we've all become. Now look- as I'm banging out this post, I'm grinning ear-to-ear. And I'm not preaching or tsk-tsk-tsk'ing anyone. Instead, I'm admitting that I understand (because I've been there too), but that coming in here blind and curious was a truly liberating experience. It really felt good. Kind of like a mini 5-minute vacation from my "usual Browns experience," you know?  Tonight, I'm just enjoying a positive Josh Gordon article in an offseason where he's an active duty player on our roster. That's some measure of progress... and it's enough to make me smile tonight. I can worry about future tragedy sometime in the future. #takinitasitcomes #noexpectations
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Saw him and Greg Little playing 2 wks ago in Beachwood He keeps posting about it on Instagram. They were at CSU today. He needs to be out there working with LeBron's trainer.
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2015, or 16 was not that long ago, he was independently training in the offseason with Terrelle Pryor.
Time to go get Terrelle Pryor back to the Browns, because If Gordons size and tackler dragging creates problems for a defense, I know Pryor's size and awesome blocking on the same line up would add to the woes of a defense.
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Was there any point to changing the title of the thread other than to get peoples blood pressure up? haha yeah, have the title be Josh Gordon (GOOD)
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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or, Josh Gordan - Don't Be Afraid To Open
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I'm super proud of Josh. He came back firing, looking every bit the superstar we knew he was.
I'm thankful someone put their foot down when Hue Jackson said he was "moving on" and that, "we need to close that chapter" on a Gordon return.
Hopefully he can make it through the offseason. He looked good this season, but he'll look even better with an offseason and camp/preseason of chemistry with his quarterback.
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Yes I was fearful when I saw the title also ... 
John 3:16 Jesus said "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
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Rosen to Gordon! Touchdown!
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I've been thinking of how deadly that combo could be. Rosen is so accurate. He is much like Jimmy G in that they both hit the receiver in stride and can lead them to more yards after the catch. Gordon would thrive on crossing and seam routes.
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Yes, and add another big WR with good hands on the other side, put Coleman in the slot, build chemistry with Njoku, add an RB like Sony Michel. That's an offense that can stun defenses, IMO. Make it so, number one. 
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or, Josh Gordan - Don't Be Afraid To Open 
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Any new Josh Gordon thread makes me nervous. Exactly
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Any new Josh Gordon thread makes me nervous. Exactly Dude needs to just hibernate until July.
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All he had to do is make it through the offseason. 
Defense wins championships. Watson play your butt off! Go Browns! CHRIST HAS RISEN! GM Strong! & Stay safe everyone!
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Any new Josh Gordon thread makes me nervous. Exactly Dude needs to just hibernate until July. Maybe we should all chip in for a kidnapping?
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Any new Josh Gordon thread makes me nervous. I saw and literally said, "yep, there it is" haha. It's like a timebomb, hopefully it never goes off.
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Next thread I want to see with his name it will hopefully pee most of u off ... i want it to say ... Josh Gordon TRADED .... 
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Peed me off without the actual thread. lol
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Peed me off without the actual thread. lol *LOL* .... U know I’m “GIFTED” ...  ... Get your ass over to the other thread and answer my question ... PLEASE ....  ...
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Next thread I want to see with his name it will hopefully pee most of u off ... i want it to say ... Josh Gordon TRADED .... Me too. He's a talented guy .... massively talented .... but I don't want this team relying on him, only for him to blow it again.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Thread was made so haters could get a grip. Sad to see that hasn't happened 
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I don't think coming to a logical conclusion based on a proven pattern makes anyone a hater.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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Thread was made so haters could get a grip. Sad to see that hasn't happened Looks like the thread was hijacked so everyone could complain about the anxiety caused by Gordon Threads.
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Any new Josh Gordon thread makes me nervous. Exactly Dude needs to just hibernate until July. Maybe we should all chip in for a kidnapping? I'm in for $20
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Peed me off without the actual thread. lol *LOL* .... U know I’m “GIFTED” ...  ... Get your ass over to the other thread and answer my question ... PLEASE ....  ... I did answer your question in that thread. If I'm right about the thread you're talking about you actually started that line of questioning by asking me first. I quickly answered. Your glasses must have fallen off and you missed it. lol
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