How is putting illegal immigrants over idk lets say the military, make that true?
Because it hurts americans to not resolve this issue. We have DACA people in the military. We have US employers employing DACA people on work permits. We have US citizens born to DACA parents. You are not seeing the forest from the trees.
ummm, when those "immigrants" came here, there were not LAWS AGAINST IT. So you logic is well, not that.
I agree with you that them coming over here is against the law. Are we not discussing what to do with these illegal immigrants? What do you think we are talking about?
My point is that immigrants that come to the US with their families want to stay with their families. If you are saying the solution to DACA is to keep the DACA recipients and boot their parents, what you are really saying is make DACA permanent. That makes no sense.
Which is exactly why trump reversed the order and kicked it to congress. They have until March to figure it out. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason this should be happening now on a CR bill.
Please read up on the Hastert rule to understand why this got attached to a continuing resolution. Republicans do not put forward bills in the house unless republicans have the votes. It's that simple. I'm not even convinced McConnell's promise will hold true to put a bill to the floor soon. Anything is possible and I hope he holds to his word.
Cant wait for congress to act, however he went YEARS without doing anything afterwards. Guess he could have waited since its been years with nothing done. That argument doesn't hold water.
You are rambling so I don't know who isn't holding water here. If I may attempt to answer, you have never once in your life asked someone to do something, and then they didn't do it? And you decided to take matters into your own hands to get it done? Not at work? Not at home? I find that hard to believe. I think you are being unreasonable in your expectations.
Its not. Deport the parents. The DACA can stay. They are NOT CHILDREN.
Listen to yourself. If these kids were kids when their parents came over, and no longer are kids, their parents assuredly have nothing left in Mexico. They have been in the US for decades. Why is it beneficial for the DACA recipients to have them stay but deport their parents? All you're doing is breaking up families and making the situation worse. You either deport them all or let the families stay. You would be creating the same burden on the DACA recipients if you let them stay and deport their families as you would if you just straight up deported them. Think this through.
I'd go so far as to think your choice is to deport them all. You just want to sit on the fence. You have to know that letting the children stay but no one else is going to result in the children leaving with their family most of the time. You'd also be effectively deporting US citizens who were born to DACA parents, as 25% of DACA recipients have US children.
I actually know plenty of LEGAL immigrants here, whose parents live in mexico, and they visit mexico - the parents for whatever reason do not visit here. If they don't like the scenario that WORKS BEST FOR AMERICANS - then they can CHOOSE to either stay or leave with their parents.
But its funny how your tone changed when I pointed out they were not CHILDREN. You also make it this "they will never be able to go their house again" - they didn't care about that fact when the parents BLATENTLY broke our FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAW. So no, I have no remorse for the parents. I do believe the "children" should get to stay, or leave if they want.
You are comparing apples and oranges. There is a big difference in someone moving somewhere on their own as an adult, than being dragged along as a kid. I'm a navy brat. I know. Most legal immigrants didn't come here illegally at first and then became legal, and their parents didn't come over illegally either. I have a legal immigrant I hired last year for my company, and his family doesn't live in the US. Never did. It's not the same thing unfortunately.. The DACA parents are in the US, So you would be uprooting them and moving them.
I agree with you 100% that DACA is a bandaid and created just as many issues as it tried to solve. My concern strictly comes from how we deal with the mess we've made in a way that is beneficial to US citizens. Part of the reason Trump was elected was to clean up Obama's mess, right? Saying we'll keep the DACA recipients and deport their parents is a half measure that doesn't resolve anything. Most of their parents would just try to avoid deportation to stay in the US. They would live under the grid, suppressing wages and avoiding paying taxes. Taking the position you are taking is saying
WE SHOULD DO NOTHING. Because the end result would be what we have right now.
So again, the only way to move forward on this is to deport them all, or let their families have the same pathway to citizenship. Anything else is foolhardy.