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I wasn't talking to you. I put j/c. I'm just saying that people are kinda going crazy over this report. I don't get how or why it is such a big deal.

Yes, Washington would have to give the Broncos permission. Just like they had to have it from KC to get Smith.

HERE you GO!

https://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/collective-bargaining-agreement-2011-2020.pdf

lol, definitely doubt this is what he wanted (a copy of like the 100 page single spaced CBA).

Love it though

He got me to Google it for him. It's his turn now.

In my opinion, cutting McGown was the biggest mistake of last off-season. (Only slightly worse than cutting Haden.) I would take him back, and hope he stays with the Browns when he retires as a coach.

Fellas, I'm with Joe Thomas on this one for Kirk Cousins. Not that he knows QB's, but you snag Cousins and then utilize your top 2 picks on Offense and defensive players. We HAVE THE MONEY FOR COUSINS!!! The only thing I'll add is that I think we are gonna have to max contract Cousins for him to even consider playing for the Browns.

Wanting to sign a player and being able to sign a player are two different things. And I am not even sure we should want to sign Kirk Cousins.

Just curious for your opinion on why we shouldn't sign Cousins.

Because I think two of the draft eligible QBs (Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold) can be much better than him. One of them (Rosen) could probably be as good as him this season.

I just worry about a guy already stating he doesn't want to play for Cleveland, playing for Cleveland. Just seems like bad juju coming out of the gates. Normally I would say go for the draft talent and not the FA QB, but this seems like a solid opportunity to actually land a franchise QB who was the starter of an NFL team with proven stat line and not just the backup behind an Aaron Rodgers or a Tom Brady who had a few solid games.

These are just reports. He's never actually stated that.

... and you know who else...

Let me guess, it rhymes with Maker Bayfield? While I'm "picking on you", I secretly admire your desire to have the kid on our team.

Holy crap on a cracker. How many times more will this need to be pointed out someone?

On a side note, heard on the radio, maybe Florio, that Cousins won’t sign with Cleveland because he wants to win now. Then he said the Jets are a possibility. Are they ready to win now? Or is it that there is the Browns and 31 teams ready to win now?

Hasn't Cousins already said he'd be happy to come to Cleveland?

If the Browns were not willing to sign Smith to a long term deal why would they sign Kirk Cousins to a long term deal?

Kirk is younger and more trade-able when their rookie is ready.

were you replying to me?

if so, I want nothing to do with Mayfieldin round 1, and I've said that over an over and over again. That doesn't mean I can't appreciate device's desire to have him on the team.

So why go after Smith then?

Because Smith was seen as a cheaper, shorter, bridge gap solution.

Hence why we wouldn't offer him a contract like Cousins'

Thanks

Happy Hue Day!

If you're signing Kirk Cousins, you are hoping he is your starter for more than four years (and will compensate in a way that makes that clear). Drafting a QB first overall and then never playing him would be a colossal waste of the most valuable non-player asset a football team can have.

Having two QB's when one of them is a guy that teams will trade for is not a problem.

Why would a team trade for a QB on an expiring deal that has never played? Or why would a team trade for an aging veteran (who has a deal that is expensive or nearly finished)?

Guessing you nailed it. The Browns and then 31 teams ready to win. I think it's just a nice way of saying "I don't want to play for the Browns."

Why would the rookie never play and will Cousin's deal still seem expensive 3 years from now if it is front loaded?

lol, the Redskins just did it.


But I don't think it matters. Cousins won't sign with us unless we commit to not drafting a QB number 1. I'm sure it'll be a stipulation in any deal we'd make. Obviously it wouldn't be in the contract, but it would be a handshake agreement.

Washington is also dumb.

I agree.

Why would the rookie play if Kirk Cousins is on the team?

There is no way possible for Cousins to be traded. The trade deadline has passed for 2017 and starts for 2018 at the same time as free agency which is what Cousins will be. If the Redskins tag Cousins the tag doesn't go into effect until free agency starts and then anybody signing Cousins would have to abide to the rules of the tag as far as compensation to Washington (IE Franchise tag = 2 1st rnd picks, transition tag = no compensation.)