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But I will add that the situation in NE seems a little strange right now ... a lot of ego and behind the scene stuff going on IMO

If the Pats made McDaniels the HC in waiting in his new contract, they don't have to abide by the Rooney Rule.

I have always heard that Bill B. has complete control in New England. I do not even know if they have a GM or in what capacity he serves. Point being, even if they where looking to McDaniel as the future HC would they give him the same level of control right from the start? Possibly they may transition B.B. into a more traditional GM role while turning over the on field stuff to McDaniel?

Interesting.

Garoppolo was promised to be Brady's heir apparent - he wanted to start sooner and strike out on his own and succeed or fail on his own ability. Good for him.

McDaniels seems to be settling to be the heir apparent at his comfortable digs and to sit tight playing second string to BB. Whatever the reason - whether it's Luck or BB retiring - I am not impressed. The only exception will be if BB retires and JM is the HC next season in New England.

Hmmm... BB suddenly retires, Brady suddenly retires, NE suddenly in the QB market?

I wonder if they would try to sign a franchise tagged JG with Brady's salary off the books?

And before someone like Pitdawg chimes in, I don't really think this would happen, just thinking out loud.

j/c

Seems like a d-bag move. But I'm wondering why anyone would want to go deal with that nut-job, Irsay, in the first place.

And it could be as simple as BB wanting Josh to stay as a buffer between him and Brady. Can't see Brady disagreeing w/ that.
Have to see what his new contract is but Krafty may have made him a serious money offer.
W/ Greg Schiano apparently taking over as DC the Pats could easily make another serious run at the Superbowl.

Taking after Belichick and the Jets thing.

Maybe he's thinking that Belichick is almost out the door.

Brady also. And what's bad about that is that they traded away a good guy in Jimmy G.

Very interesting news.

If I'm the Colts, I see if I can talk to Reich or Defilippo.

It's probably a plus the Colts actually have some assistants in place. Means a new HC this late in the game isn't entirely stranded.

While we are on that idea, would that not be a violation of the Rooney Rule?

Not that I really care in a case where you have a coach who retires and you don't open the job to the outside and you promote from with-in.

I understand if you go outside to hire a coach how being inclusive has merit. I just don't think hiring inside the team structure should be held to the same rule.

Maybe Bill told Josh.. " Hey Josh, you stay here and take my job..I'm going to the Colts with Andrew Luck...I'm tired of bailing out Brady "

So perfect. I can visualize Josh doing this too.

So it sounds like Josh McDaniels accepted the job. The team even put out an official press release saying McDaniels had been hired. There are coaches under contract that McDaniels hired working in the Colts building. McDaniels backs out at the last second. Colts are screwed (for now).

I don't really blame McDaniels. I think we forgot sometimes that these guys are human beings. I have definitely changed my mind at the last second on some big time decisions.

Report: Colts expected to request interview with Frank Reich

Eagles seem to be trying to find a way to keep DeFilippo

It's a real possibility that idiot did something, that's for sure.

j/c:

Agent Bob LaMonte Terminating Relationship With Josh McDaniels After Backing Out On Colts


http://nfltraderumors.co/agent-bob-lamonte-terminating-relationship-josh-mcdaniels-backing-colts/

Like the sands in the hourglass . . .

Man, the Pats are stealing the post-Superbowl spotlight.

I wonder why he didn't give Jon Gruden the axe when he basically accepted the Raiders job while his other client, Jack del Rio, was still the head coach. . .

Yeah, I wouldn't want my professional name associated with a guy who pulled that kind of BS either.

This is such a Browns-ian thing to happen. I'm relieved it wasn't my team.

If I had to guess (which I am, because this is all we can do right now), I think it's Luck. There has been so little clarity about his injury and timetable to return that there has to be something serious going on. McDaniels must have caught wind of something bad enough to freak him out. As of now, Luck and their high draft pick are the only things the Colts have going for them (everything else pretty much sucks). If half of those things aren't good to go, that should give any potential HC pause.

As for the effect on McDaniels career... I don't think it's a big deal in the long run. I think his agent had to fire him because McDaniels just screwed over the agent's other client, the Colts GM. I'm not reading too much into that drama. In a couple years, I really don't think it'll matter.
That being said, this really sucks for the Colts. McDaniels has really put them in a tight spot, and they have every right to be pissed.

If he is new HC, it makes sense. Is the BB abdicating? Just boggled my mind when I heard JMcD had backed out. Something happened or will.

Well. suppose they make you a grand offer for, oh, say, Trent Richardson, hypothetically, of course. We almost died of windburn getting to them. Depends on what is on the table. Something very sweet must be in NE for him. Very wanted.

He's DONE as a HC candidate around the league. NE is his only chance. Total BS move by him. JMO

I think this is a good summation...


https://twitter.com/NathanSerious/status/961318777701875713

Going down the responses to that tweet, the one from Tom White is

I went there just for this... and it was so worth it!

IF McDaniels becomes the head coach in NE, when ever that may happen, there's no way NE can say they abided by the Rooney rule. None. It will look like collusion on the part of BB, Kraft and McD. Oh, they'll parade the first black person they can find into Kraft's office for an "interview" and claim they followed the letter of the rule, but it's a smack in the face of the equal representation the rule is meant to intend.

Now, does that mean they'll get away with it? Probably. The Raiders got away with it with Gruden. If this happens, then the implementation of the rule needs to be addressed and modified. Too many people choose their guy, then do "fake" interviews. Either have the rule or don't.

Not surprised.... almost feel bad for colts and then I remember who their owner is....

If he is designated as head coach in waiting, there is an exception to the Rooney Rule, so it wouldn't be a violation.

No one would trade that many first round picks for a 41-year-old QB.

McDaniels agent has dropped him. That's pretty unusual and speaks to how badly JM has shafted the Colts.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...ch-spurns-colts

Eh, it's kind of like when Lerner hired Mangini and they trotted Mel Tucker upstairs for a token interview.

Where did I call you a dumbass?
And how was my response to the scenario you laid out an 'insult'?

Bob LaMonte is also the agent of Chris Ballard (the Colts GM). Also, this is not the first time LaMonte dropped McDaniels.

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