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Hey, Swish... I think Pit deserves it, don't you?

Bet you don't have a link to that BRILLIANT philosophy? Stop making things up.

Pit’s been laying heymakers lately.

So there is no middle ground? No discussion? You go straight to rhetoric an agenda that no-one actually has put forth?

Why would you use Chicago as an example? Chicago doesn't work - why would you want to repeat that?

Here's an honest question - a few months ago I was at a friends place in the country and I was firing a Barrett 50mm sniper rifle. Legally. . . . what is the justification for that weapon to be legal? It was fun as hell to shoot. But I personally wouldn't want that weapon to be legal in any state. Why is it necessary to legally own that?

You need it in case you want to lay atop the Superdome sniping looters.

The gun you're talking about fires a bullet that has a 12.7mm diameter (.50 BMG). Just thought I'd clarify that for others.

Its a gun that fires a bullet that would tear a man's arm off at 1000 yards. It's a military sniper rifle. Made across the border from me in TN I believe.

Yeah, you don't want to get hit with one of those. Surgeons might be able to reattach your arm, if they could only find your torso.

Or, how about we find out facts - FACTS, before posting rumor?

I know they're still investigating, but the guy responsible for this allegation is even walking it back.

http://wncn.com/2018/02/16/white-nationa...s-group-member/

At this time, even the law enforcement can't find any link - well, other than jordan jereb saying it.

That might help.. but it would be countered by the democrats allowing you to kill the students for your own convenience and no fear of punishment... but you could only kill them up until the 3rd grade.

If only his name had been Cruzikoff, Mueller's FBI would have had a microscope up his rectum looking for postal fraud.

Or Trump.




But, as it is, people did what they were told: They reported stuff. And.................?

FBI says "well, uh, we didn't follow protocol and we never looked into it. Oops."

Or it may actually consider some Dems to reconsider their stand on abortion.

My point is that you can't have it both ways. That includes Dems and the GOP.

What did u mean by ...

MORE GUNS and LESS REGULATION??? ...

Ya ... i thought so ...



Chicago was a PERFECT EXAMPLE ... u want more regs and less guns .. well chi-town has as tough of gun laws as their is in the country yet its a shooting gallery from sunset friday night til sunrise Monday morning ... .... like i said .. PERFECT EXAMPLE ...

Maybe u thinks its a bad example cause it blows what u want all to hell ...



The same reason its legal to own any gun .. cause as of now it’s legal ... u want to ask what purpose does it serve ... thats a different question ... u ain’t gonna like the answer but i’ll be more than happy to answer the questions u ask ...

Here’s one for u ..

How many murders (total murders .. not just mass murders even though thats the topic of discussion here) would banning those sniper rifles have prevented?

I'm not an advocate for gun control. But under your scenario, if you have a weapon with 15 round clips verses weapons with 30 round clips I believe the death toll would be less.

30 round clips give a shooter twice as many rounds per clip to run up the casualty count as a 15 round pistol would. So yeah, in a mass shooting situation I think smaller clips would cut down on the body count.

I can't say that I necessarily agree with this sentiment. A 30 round magazine is larger, heavier to carry and wield around and at best only saves someone who's been practicing, a few seconds switching magazines. If the shooter has half a brain they don't shoot the last round in their rifle anyway and that saves them the time it takes to recharge the weapon.

If you start with one in the chamber and load 15 into a magazine, shoot 15 and the final round is loaded into the chamber, no recharge. You've only lost the time it takes to drop a mag on the floor (we'll assume you're not being thrifty and picking it up) grab one from your pocket, vest or waistband and shove it in. Mere seconds.

Here's a quick, practical demonstration by two guys, one familiar with his weapon and the other, not so much.



My personal preference is a 20 round mag. Nice weight and doesn't hang down as far.

That wasn’t my scenario ... NICE TRY THOUGH ..

My scenario was VERY WELL DEFINED .... i said ZERO about clips ... ZERO ...

How many murders would banning that sniper rifle have prevented? ... after all, thats what were talking about ... no? ...

j/c

We need a Fife law. You can buy all the guns you want but if you are incompetent then you are only allowed one bullet and you have to keep it in your pocket until there is an emergency.

So you believe the body count would be the same using a weapon with the clip holding half as much ammo. Good to know.

It sounds more like you're avoiding that point rather than addressing it. We're in a thread discussing school shootings. So you don't think the weapon of choice in these shootings having 30 round clips rather than a weapon with a clip with half the capacity makes any difference.

Or would you like another try?

Do you guys believe the body count would have been the same if we did a better job of identifying mental health issues and getting those people the proper help?

Hmmm...we used to tape 2 mags together in the military. You can flip a mag in no time. So smaller mags are NOT the answer.

Nobody wants to hear mental health or parental responsibilities...only gun control. Foolish people

Our Sheriff in Volusia County just arrested a 14 yr old male student for joking about shooting up a school. Charged him with 1 felony and 1 misdemeanor. Chitwood is not playing....send a message Sheriff

https://twitter.com/sheriffchitwood?lang=en

points... to the red jersey!

How many times are you going to change the qualifications on what can be said? because you said it shouldnt even be mentioned . It was discussed as a report . Like I said, if it was reported that he attended an AL Qaeda meeting , would it be worth mentioning?

I dont know Arch, you seem to be getting awfully defensive about this terrorist getting linked to some white supremacy groups.

WE defend the president with guns
We defend banks with guns
We defend celebrities with guns

Notice a trend? What happens when a school shooting occurs? They call people with guns.

More death, a product of humanity, the shoulders we stand on.

Weapons lead to destruction

Ah! PERFECT!

There is no proof he was a member of rof, or that he even attended a meeting. The only person that has said that is backing down. (as of now, that is)

Yet, it was reported, and people ran with it, with no proof.


You, sir, are trying in vain, with this statement to paint me in a bad light.

Doesn't matter if it's true or not, does it? You put it out there so people could run with it.





I'm not a terrorist, nor am I a white supremacist.

You, on the other hand, appear to be doubling down on some unproven info. It seems to me you really want to believe the guy was a white supremacist when no proof of that exists.

How dare you throw cold water on the liberal narrative!

11-06-2018

Yes, the Red Wave cometh!

Watch your people die, and you ask why?

I can no longer stand idly by. You (republicans) can tell me the globe is not warming. You can tell me we need tax breaks for the wealthiest. These are arguments we can debate, not this one.

I'm coming after your guns, not all of them. Just enough of them to stop this conversation.

This cannot be the product of a civil and world war. Can't do it, won't do it

daytnabacker...Your Sheriff, Mike Chitwood and I have a similar approach to the problem of keeping kids safe at school.
...first- schools cannot wait on the "politicians" to do anything constructive to protect students.

Chitwood's remark:


To face the threat, schools need "real security"..security backed up with the firepower in the hands of a qualified security force that can match the threat.

Chitwood said:


When a school is attacked by some AR-15 armed nutjob, we look for WHAT WENT WRONG?...even though the answer is obvious..schools do not have a last line of defense to protect our students. Our students are nothing more than "unarmed targets" waiting to be shot by some "nutjob" who got their hands on a gun.

Sheriff Chitwood's comment:

link


I believe Sheriff Chitwood realizes that any security plan will have weak points where a suspect can fall through the cracks. But a breakdown in any plan should not be a sentence to death for our unarmed students.

Each school must have a "last line of defense" that will stop any threat. Armed guards who are qualified and trained to use maximum force, are needed.

Also, entrance points into the school must be controlled so a weapon cannot be taken into the school. We use metal detectors at airports and at our courthouse, to insure a safe environment inside, past those checkpoints...

...why not use metal detectors, limited access points, backed up by armed guards...to reassure students that they are safe at school?

I know that seeing as you find Disneyland too scary, you probably won't step foot in Chicago, but Chicago gets it's guns from Indiana.

Which is obvious disregard for the gun laws of Chicago. Did even two neurons fire in thought after you hit submit?

We've reached the "people will break laws, so don't bother making laws" portion of the program.

(And Chicago's gun violence is due to racial and financial segregation, if anyone's wondering)

Would you like my address? Try taking my guns, I promise you'll leave my property in a body bag.

Get a clue man, this is NOT a gun issue