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I asked a follow up question ...  Most would say i lost my glasses years and years ago ... *LOL* ..
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Marbles are glass. I think they were talking about marbles, not glasses. lol
I'll go look for that follow up.
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All he had to do is make it through the offseason.  Let's fix that: All he has to do is make it through the offseason.
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I saw Josh Gordon on PFT headline and just automatically said "this is it, lasted longer than I initially thought" only to find out that the article was nothing bad.
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If we could only count on that going forward.......
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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That whole ERFA business is kinda confusing. It sounds like he's not a FA at all.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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Any new Josh Gordon thread makes me nervous. Me also! 
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Now is the time to sign Josh Gordon to a very team friendly extension.
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I SAY SIGN GORDON LONG TERM TO INCENTIVE BASED CONTACT, GO OUT AND GET DEZ BRYANT TO PLAY ON THE OTHER SIDE AND LET COLEMAN PLAY THE SLOT... THAT WOULD CREATE THE MOST DANGEROUS RECEIVING CORP IN THE LEAGUE AND THE BEST THE BROWNS HAVE EVER FIELDED... SIMPLY DOING THAT WOULD CREATE AN IDEAL SITUATION FOR ANY QUARTERBACK WHETHER IT BE COUSINS, WHICH IM NOT THAT CRAZY ABOUT, OR THE GUY THEY CHOOSE AT #1! ANY VETERAN THEY WOULD BRING IN TO BRIDGE GAP WOULD BE SET! WE CAN GET A STARTING RUNNER TO PAIR WITH JOHNSON AT THE TOP OF THE 2ND AND TAKE THE BEST AVAILABLE WITH THE #4 PICK BEING FITZPATRICK OR WHOEVER THEY COVET. WE REALLY ARENT THAT FAR FROM BEING A CONTENDER IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS IF THIS OFF SEASON GOES AS HOPED.....FINGERS CROSSED IM TIRED OF SUPPORTING A PERENNIAL LOSER BUT IM A DIE HARD REGARDLESS
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WELCOME ABOARD, RULER216!
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That's an eye bleeder of a first post.
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IM LOST ON THE EYE BLEEDER COMMENT... I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS...
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IM LOST ON THE EYE BLEEDER COMMENT... I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS...
It means, please do not post in all caps. It is very hard to read.
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That whole ERFA business is kinda confusing. It sounds like he's not a FA at all. An exclusive rights free agent is one with 2 or fewer years of accrued service. They can only negotiate with their current team. I have read that Gordon will not reach unrestricted free agency till the 2020 season. We control him contractually for a couple of years because he did not fulfill his contract be being active for at least 6 games in 3 of his 5 seasons. (because of suspensions)
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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I get all that... but the limitation that he can only negotiate with his current team if they give him a qualifying offer (which is crazy low) kinda sounds like he's not a FA. Calling him a free agent (of any kind) seems kinda silly.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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I get all that... but the limitation that he can only negotiate with his current team if they give him a qualifying offer (which is crazy low) kinda sounds like he's not a FA. Calling him a free agent (of any kind) seems kinda silly. He's definitely not a free agent. It's just a term to say that he doesn't have a contract.
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Yeah, I just think it's a funny term.
The other thing that I think is weird is how those unaccrued seasons affected his contract. He didn't accrue seasons to become a RFA or UFA, but he did accrue seasons to have his contract run out (technically, he doesn't have a contract anymore, right? So if we don't give him an offer, he's totally free to sign anywhere?). My understanding of Gordon's contract was that it was 'paused' the seasons he didn't play in enough games. By pausing his contract so much, he would've been on his rookie contract for forever.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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I get all that... but the limitation that he can only negotiate with his current team if they give him a qualifying offer (which is crazy low) kinda sounds like he's not a FA. Calling him a free agent (of any kind) seems kinda silly. If we didn't offer him a deal, then he would be a free agent.
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It is like when we sign UDFA to 1 year deals. They are then ERFA, and they can only sign with us. (unless we relinquish their rights, or cut them at some point,
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Welcome to the Ruler 216. Nudge that cap lock key again. Typing too loudly.
Seriously, be the FAN! Hope you have fun here. Hold hands crossing the street to the other forums.
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As long as we field an acceptable offer, right? Not sure I am comfy about ERFA, but if he stays clean and sober, make it a good offer with length.
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We can tender him with whatever the appropriate tender offer is, and we can also offer a long term deal, if we want to.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Now is the time to sign Josh Gordon to a very team friendly extension. I agree. We have the money. Give him a 3-4 mil upfront to sign, then give him some nice bonus bumps payable after he completes a season without suspension for the next 4 years.. I hope Dorsey is smart enough to do this.
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IM LOST ON THE EYE BLEEDER COMMENT... I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS...
It means, please do not post in all caps. It is very hard to read. All caps is kinda funny, but I don't find it hard to read... But that's just me.
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Now is the time to sign Josh Gordon to a very team friendly extension. I agree. We have the money. Give him a 3-4 mil upfront to sign, then give him some nice bonus bumps payable after he completes a season without suspension for the next 4 years.. I hope Dorsey is smart enough to do this. I wonder if Josh Gordon would even be open to staying in Cleveland?
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If I'm Dorsey I would try to trade Gordon.
I just want a winner. We need players who can be part of the solution not part of the problem.
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Now is the time to sign Josh Gordon to a very team friendly extension. I agree. We have the money. Give him a 3-4 mil upfront to sign, then give him some nice bonus bumps payable after he completes a season without suspension for the next 4 years.. I hope Dorsey is smart enough to do this. I wonder if Josh Gordon would even be open to staying in Cleveland? I don't know? I think at this point he needs money. If we offer him a chunk up front. he buys.
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Or he could get it somewhere else. He already has made some comments that makes one wonder if he wants to be in Cleveland. The weather sucks. It's not a happening town. Add to that the unstable footing of our HC and why would he want to stay in Cleveland when he knows he can get paid somewhere else?
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I agree with Vers that Josh probably doesn't want to play for a 1-31 Head Coach.
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I agree with Vers that Josh probably doesn't want to play for a 1-31 Head Coach. According to the article that was posted above, I guess it's not gonna be Josh's call? ------------------- In effect, Gordon isn't free at all. The Browns maintain exclusive rights, which means the former Baylor star cannot negotiate with other teams. Once Cleveland tenders a qualifying offer, Gordon's options are limited to signing the tender or sitting out yet another season.http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...control-as-erfa
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it's his call to sign an extension or not, if offered.
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Just clicking.
Maybe Josh wants to play in a cooler city, but he'd grow more as a person if he felt like he should make amends to the Browns and the fans for putting up with him, and his travails.
For the past few seasons.
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I'm not sure he perceives himself as having wronged the fans.
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I wonder if we could trade him for Landry ... i’d do that in a heart beat ... Gordons way to un-reliable ...
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I wonder if we could trade him for Landry ... i’d do that in a heart beat ... Gordons way to un-reliable ... Lol. Gordon and 35 for Landry and ink Robinson. I'm in.
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Or he could get it somewhere else. He already has made some comments that makes one wonder if he wants to be in Cleveland. The weather sucks. It's not a happening town. Add to that the unstable footing of our HC and why would he want to stay in Cleveland when he knows he can get paid somewhere else? Good questions as well. Maybe he doesn't. But, it is with us or nothing for now. I wouldn't offer anything less than a 3 year, incentive laden deal. As I said, the real money would be payable at the end of the season after he keeps his nose clean. Vet minimum through the season, maybe 5-7 mil bonus at seasons end.
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I wonder if we could trade him for Landry ... i’d do that in a heart beat ... Gordons way to un-reliable ... I never even thought about that... but interesting. I'd ship the suspect Gordon for him in a split second.
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Now is the time to sign Josh Gordon to a very team friendly extension. I agree. We have the money. Give him a 3-4 mil upfront to sign, then give him some nice bonus bumps payable after he completes a season without suspension for the next 4 years.. I hope Dorsey is smart enough to do this. Honestly, pay him whatever it takes to keep him. But be sure to put in a clause that he's getting nothing if he blows up again.
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