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If sports performance coach Ryan Flaherty is to be believed, Wyoming quarterback Josh Allen is going to turn plenty of heads at the NFL Scouting Combine.

"Josh Allen has one of the most incredibly gifted arms I've seen in my life and I've been around a lot of quarterbacks," Flaherty said on NFL Network on Thursday (via Michael David Smith of Pro Football Talk). "He'll break the record miles per hour here at the combine. He’ll go high 60s. I think the record’s 66 or something. I think he’ll go 69, 70 miles an hour. And just wait until his Pro Day. He’ll throw the ball 89 or 90 yards."

He might, but we're not sure which county the ball will end up in. Will it be to the east or to the west of the intended county?

With that velocity, he'll break DBs arms when he's throwing interceptions.
What's with all this love for an inaccurate QB?

I agree a zillion percent. Plus we already have an inaccurate QB in Deshone Kizer.

Not-to-mention:

Josh Allen, Wyoming:

How sound is the shoulder? Allen broke his right (throwing-side) collarbone as a high school sophomore and again as a Cowboys freshman in 2015, when it broke in seven spots and required eight screws and a plate to fix surgically. Then, this past November, Allen suffered an AC joint sprain in his right shoulder that sidelined him for two games. "From that one surgery, he's got a whole bunch of staples in there," one college scouting director said. "So I think everybody's going to take a look [at the combine], MRI him and see what the structure is and see how he's feeling." Said an NFC scout: "That's what everyone's going to poke and prod at, is his shoulders and make sure everything's right." One person close to Allen told me he's pain-free, and he certainly looked healthy during an impressive showing at the Senior Bowl. But it's a QB's throwing shoulder, so teams will gather all the info they can.

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Opinion: Allen is going to be a very successful QB in the NFL . Some of you just kill me with the " My guy or the Highway crap " I truly believe there will be several out of this Class that ex-cell at the next level .

I agree. Some people seem to have their heels dug in. I try to keep a open mind. At this point I don't know who I want or who the Browns should take.

I agree on the QB's, I think there are 3-4 at the top who are about the same. Each brings something a little different.

There are some other QB's I would be very happy with if things were different and we whet QB shopping in round 2 or later..

Mason Rudolph, Riley Feurgson, Luke Faulk are three that I like.

Lauletta is mine. Or White.

Who cares what the hell you think?

I have the right to voice my opinion , no ?

Of course. But, you seem to be making a lot of comments like this one:



We are allowed to voice our opinions, too.

Well with me its not been my guy or the highway...Rosen,
Darnold or Mayfield anyone they pick.

Note, no Allen, not because if my way or the highway. I want our QB to be accurate...of which is not a virtue of Allen! Look at film of his deep out. That is what will keep him off our list of QBs at #1
Jmho

If you want to get into it , bring it on . I don't have the time to post as much as I use to ; so if I get the boot , I'll survive !

You sir are the Classic example of the " Pot calling the Kettle Black " ( old Spanish proverb ) . I routinely go out of my way not to respond to your posts directly . I can only remember a couple of negative responses over the last few months & non of those directed at you . Think I owe Devicedawg an apology for popping off .

You , of course have the right to your opinion . Unfortunately YOU seem to think that it is a one way street at times .

Don't like what I post ; don't respond to it .. Thats kinda how I TREAT the vast majority of your writings !

No prob Eo . I have spent the last two years watching him and his team .. I have watched him grow / regress and mature at times . I believe ( solo my opinion ) that he has some of the best upside of any in the draft . I also like White and Furgeson .. I am not in the main stream .. lol

If you can watch the second have of the Senior Bowl , do . Watch what happens when he petitions the Coach to put him back in , and having a talk with himself also .

That's what I thought.

Tab I want NO part of Mayfield, you have your reasons and I have mine

I could see the top 5 going like this.

1. Barkely
2. Rosen
3. Darnold
4. Mayfield
5. Allen

This I don't get. How do you know that the Giants don't take Mayfield or the Colts don't trade down or take Mayfield?


QB has to be number 1. If Barkley falls to us at 4, great, otherwise, move on.


The guy's a really good player, but these quarterbacks this year are better than last year's crop. Identify our guy, pick him.

QB is the biggest impact player we can get. Let's choose the one we want most, we haven't done that since Tim Couch. No excuses for why the QB fails, we have our choice, pick the best

If we were stupid enough to pass on a quarterback at #1 and Rosen and Darnold came off the board before we picked at 4 I would certainly take Allen before I took Mayfield.

from reports by Phil Savage, he was VERY impressive in today's workout

Josh Allen is very impressive when throwing the football. I just don't know why he throws the ball ten yards over his receivers' head sometimes.

Sure, i bet Brady Quinn was very impressive too. Savage did a good job on that one..........

Phil Savage also has an interest in pumping up guys that played in the Senior Bowl.

Another angle I didn't think of

yep

He was impressive, probably won the day. His footwork is an issue that needs work.

I admit being an Allen fan .. I believe that there are several QB's in this draft that will succeed at a high level in the NFL .. I believe that most of us have a favorite and become nit-picky about the other four or so in this class.. I plead guilty .. I have been finding faults with Rosen , Darnold , Mayfield , ect , ect ..

LOL What's with "What's with all this love for an inaccurate QB?". I can marvel at a Ferrari as well... not real practical, can't really afford it, but it's still an incredible work of engineering. Josh Allen is a freak, doesn't mean I think we should draft him. Are there other QBs as gifted physically? Absolutely NOT.

I'd like Josh Allen better if they didn't show his "know my name" spot every commercial break.

He's a project with a big arm. I don't think we need another project. Yes, he has the nebulous "upside," but I don't think this fan base/organization has much (any) patience at this point.

He has better work ethic than Jamarcus Russell, but I'm not sure he's that far ahead of him from a mental/processing standpoint. I think he will progress in that area, but he's a decent bit behind the other guys.

Allen needs to be mechanically sound.

Josh Rosen is almost perfect in his mechanics. It is amazing how he gets over his base on almost every throw. If Allen had Rosen's mechanics, people might be talking about him as a definite #1 overall.

If he had Rosen’s ability to read coverages and his mechanics he would be the the next John Elway......but alas he possesses neither of those things.

Did anyone see Allen throw a bad pass today? Everything I saw was crisp and on point.

I saw Rosen bounce a slant pass.

Allen is going to kill these guys in these types of drills...he’s a physical freak. The other guys catch up when the real bullets fly.

Elway never completed over 60% of his passes until his 11th NFL season. That's astonishing, and shows how much the game has changed.

Allen definitely improved perceptions and maybe draft stock. Darnold not throwing didn't help. Mayfield was a bit off...deep ball was underthrown and a couple of the mid-field passes were behind. Rosen's deep ball was beautiful. His shorter throws to the right side line were way off.

I thought Mayfield looked pretty good overall.

Here is how I would rank everyone today based on the throwing drills I saw.

1. Allen
2. Rosen / Mayfield

Guys who didn't really impress me today were Rudolph and Jackson.

Darnold loses out a bit too since he didn't throw ( also ran the slowest 40 out of the top prospects).

I was underwhelmed by Mayfield. Allen was definitely #1 for me, Rosen's beautiful deep ball (x3) put him #2 for me and Mayfield #3. Then Jackson. Of the other guys I thought White and Lauletta were more impressive than Rudolph, who I was a bit disappointed with. Lauletta, however, kinda seems like Kessler pt2.

BpG, I agree that Allen is similar to Wentz and Rosen to Goff. I would take Allen #1 overall. I believe he is an AFC North type of QB. The other QB's in the draft do not fit what I believe is needed in an AFC North QB, Size, Arm, ability to make a play when needed. I watched the Allen Senior Bowl second half performance. He showed he can make the reads, the throws and score points. That is what is needed for a Cleveland Browns QB.

I just moved Allen ahead of Rosen. He supposedly has a great attitude, and man, what a freak! No interest in Darnold. My dream scenario is to get him and Barkley.
Watching the combine is great!

Might be? He'd be the most exciting prospect in a long time.

Unfortunately it's the Browns luck that the 2 years they have the #1 there's no clear #1 like there is almost every other year... then again at least it's not Jamarcus Russel or Blake Bortles, so count our blessings I guess haha