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The point of bringing in a veteran QB is to bring in someone who has more experience and can improve the team. AJ has less playing time than Kizer, a lot less. So what exactly is he supposed to have to share? How to warm the bench? AJ doesn't do anything at all to improve our QB room. Also, his arm is way too weak to run a vertical passing game which means our WRs won't be learning how to play in the system we want to run but some altered version of it that won't get them ready for whoever we draft.

I think Kizer will improve a great deal this offseason and I would prefer to see if he did or not vs signing someone like AJ. It just doesn't make ANY sense to bring AJ here.


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If you want to please Hue, instead of signing McCarron, just put a McCarron name tag on Kessler's jersey and nobody will know the difference.

McCarron is the QB that you go out and get when you are only pretending that you are trying.

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J/C...I think the Vikings landing him triggers a chain reaction considering the QBs they have and would likely become available. Bridgewater and Bradford would surely command interest?


You never know .. they both had a lot of success in Minnesota, but got injured. If the Vikings don't want to give them another chance, with their success there, not sure others will either.


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Originally Posted By: Razorthorns

In what way is AJ an upgrade over Kizer? Please be specific because I can't think of anything other than he has had more years of riding a bench.


He's more accurate. That's a good upgrade to me. I don't want him but he is more accurate than Kizer which is huge.


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When do we get to start the Case Keenum thread?

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When do we get to start the Case Keenum thread?


When you press the new topic button at the top of the forum.


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Originally Posted By: ddubia
Originally Posted By: Razorthorns

In what way is AJ an upgrade over Kizer? Please be specific because I can't think of anything other than he has had more years of riding a bench.


He's more accurate. That's a good upgrade to me. I don't want him but he is more accurate than Kizer which is huge.
I actually agree with Dubia on this one.


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DeAngelo Hall didn’t feel a commitment from Kirk Cousins

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...m-kirk-cousins/

Truly sounds like Kirk will go wherever and to whoever gives him the most $.

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If Cousins is all about the money but has marked Cleveland off the list, our FO should shoot a ridiculous fully guaranteed 5 year deal his way. He either comes calling or uses that to make another team pay through the nose. I'm happy either way.


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I think we made it clear we aint a player for Cousins.

Pretty sure we will go for a cheaper AJ.


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I keep seeing people say that. Did I miss something? Has Dorsey come out and said we weren't interested in Cousins?


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No ... but its pretty well known that the Vikings, Donks are the teams its down too with the Jets as a HUGE UNDERDOG ...

At least thats the scuttlebutt ...




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Now it's the Jets and Minny.

According to Miller, anyways.

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That may be. I wouldn't allow that to keep me from trying.

We need to have a contract drawn and ready to send to his agent the minute the window opens.

If we don't do that, Dorsey isn't worth much in my book unless he comes right out and says Cousins isn't good enough, or is to old for our needs, or more expensive then we want to spend. There has to be a reason why we wouldn't try, even if Cousins agent has told us not to bother.


If we send a good offer and are turned down, there is nothing we can do about that.


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j/c:

Minni, Denver, and the Jets do not have the first pick in the NFL draft. The Browns do.

I think the Browns should pass on Cousins if they have determined that one of the QBs in this draft is their long-term franchise qb. The Browns may never be in a position to have the #1 overall pick again. This is a rare opportunity to solve the qb position for a long, long time.

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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
I keep seeing people say that. Did I miss something? Has Dorsey come out and said we weren't interested in Cousins?


No but Joe Thomas did say that and he is keeping close tabs on that and has better info than us.

Also some top analysts on the subject have stated we are not in the picture and by choice not because Cousins decision.

So Peen if you need it from Dorsey's mouth than No.

But Ive done my homework n gotten use to my phone and it me...as soon as I click to come here they have an article about the Browns. I dont have the phone skills to copy n paste so I do not share. But I am educated enough to say we do not wish to pursue and commit to Cousins...again why I think #1 will be QB as that is who we are committing long term.


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Minni, Denver, and the Jets do not have the first pick in the NFL draft. The Browns do.

I think the Browns should pass on Cousins if they have determined that one of the QBs in this draft is their long-term franchise qb. The Browns may never be in a position to have the #1 overall pick again. This is a rare opportunity to solve the qb position for a long, long time.


And that's the entire picture. IF you have a target at #1 who you feel will be your future franchise QB for years to come, you draft that QB. That's how teams traditionally build a franchise. Now people will point out drew Brees and Alex smith. But those are the exceptions, not the rule.

Acting as though this FO would be wrong to address the QB position the same way almost the entire NFL does it as some big mistake are losing sight of reality.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
If Cousins is all about the money but has marked Cleveland off the list, our FO should shoot a ridiculous fully guaranteed 5 year deal his way. He either comes calling or uses that to make another team pay through the nose. I'm happy either way.


Our front office doesn't want Kirk Cousins.

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If Cousins is all about the money but has marked Cleveland off the list, our FO should shoot a ridiculous fully guaranteed 5 year deal his way. He either comes calling or uses that to make another team pay through the nose. I'm happy either way.


Our front office doesn't want Kirk Cousins.


I don't either ... tsktsk


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
If Cousins is all about the money but has marked Cleveland off the list, our FO should shoot a ridiculous fully guaranteed 5 year deal his way. He either comes calling or uses that to make another team pay through the nose. I'm happy either way.


Our front office doesn't want Kirk Cousins.


I don't either ... tsktsk


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Kirk Cousins is going to sign with the Vikings.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/973587918924206080

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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
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We'll be in the Cousin's race, if we want to, if for no other reason than to drive his price up.





If we choose not to, Dorsey needs to be fired before the season begins.


Time to fire John Dorsey (obviously).

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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We'll be in the Cousin's race, if we want to, if for no other reason than to drive his price up.





If we choose not to, Dorsey needs to be fired before the season begins.


Time to fire John Dorsey (obviously).




It might be.

I have to say the Ty signing helped matters.


I still think we should have tried, but maybe we did and were rejected?

Unlike you, I don't take things all that seriously anymore.


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