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I see your point...but his decisions led to a winless season nonetheless..and he somehow still kept his job. Spilled milk at this point for sure.

Absolutely.

Oooops

Green is good, red is bad:



https://twitter.com/MikeClayNFL/status/971849510740746240

I think there CB grade for the Browns is inflated due to a scheme that protected the CBs at the cost of everyone else.

Some of those don't make sense...

Look at us vs some of the other teams for QB. Keep in mind, the tweet says this is pre-FA ranks (as things officially are right now).

How are the Jets and 'zona worse off than us at QB? If those guys are worse off, then why is Minny rated so high (aren't they losing all of their QBs this season as well)?

The chart looks bogus as can be.

Not much about Crow .... wonder what the silence means ... i hope he’s gone ....

I read rumors that Tampa Bay was a spot for him to land

I don't know about that, but it does leave out a lot of information, like on what it was based. I am sure someone else could come up with a chart almost opposite.

I'm curious how the market is going to value crow given he clearly wants paid.

Agreed that some of the ranking don't make sense. But on the whole I think its a good snap shot.

To answer your questions about QB the Jets are probably worse off because the Jet and Zona don't have any QBs. The Vikings I don't know...but 1.8 isn't really a high ranking it could just be a projection based on the quality of the surrounding pieces of their passing game.

Browns O:

QB-0.3
RB-1.4
WR-1.5
TE-2.6
OL-3.9

The offense and particularly the passing game was the weakspot....i disagree w/ their RB ranking because i think they were held back through underuse.


Browns D:

INT-1.7
EDGE-3.0
LB-2.7
CB-2.7
S-0.4

I think the CB ranking are off, i think the scheme tried hard to prevent the CBs from being beat deep and they didn't make plays.
I thought the INT could have been better if they played Ogun more snaps.

But on the whole I think their areas of weakness match-up.

It's position grades of every unit with UFAs removed from their grade. NYJ is worse because they don't have McCown nor does Arizona have Palmer. With 90% of our talent signed, we probably get a big boost compared to most teams.

My guess after this afternoon's flurry:
QB goes from 0.3 up to ~2.0
WR goes from 1.5 up to ~2.5

I think the trading frenzy supports my belief that the team has a decent, youthful foundation. Dorsey & Co see/know that the team is young - maybe even too young - but has a lot of potential with solid to really-good players but is/was missing experience, play-makers and a QB. They are willing to sacrifice draft picks for established players and - amazingly prior to FA - attacked three of our weakest positions.

We still have the FA period and (9) picks (?) in this draft...we don't necessarily need (9) rookies...let alone the potential (12) we started out with. I don't think they are finished trading just yet.

Rumors swirling around Suh, Honey Badger, Earl Thomas.

*Rumors are strongest around Earl Thomas

Several reporters are saying that there is at least one more "big" deal in the works that could get done before Monday.

who would be a good fit our of these 3?

Who could you do without out of that group?

Any one else you think that is out there that we should trade one of our picks for?

For me it's easily The Honey Badger.

-Thomas is in the last year of his contract. Unless an extension is a part of the trade, I have reservations. Although I liked the Jamie Collins's trade. We'd have first rights to an extension.

- Suh's contract is expensive and he is 31.

-The Honey Badger is (1) very good, (2) 25 years old, and (3) signed through 2021. Oh, and Joe Banner passed on him for Leon McFadden.

Can he play FS?

The Honey Badger or Suh?

I'm wondering if Suh will be a byproduct of the Shelton trade. I kinda hope not.

That "big" deal could have been the Shelton trade.

I could see us going after another 3, but I would imagine that it would be in the draft or with a minor FA.

Yes.

I think there is one more coming with us acquiring a player.

I agree. Some are saying maybe Suh. Although his contract is insane so he'd probably have to be willing to restructure. Not for less $ but differently spread out.

Lol Suh at FS would be hilarious.

He'd get burnt 99% of the time, but the one time he landed a hit full speed on a WR theyd be out for the season

Would love Honey Badger!

The Suh rumors don't make sense. If the Dolphins cut or trade him they would have $22.2 million in dead money on the books for 2018 (while only saving $3.9 million) and $13.1 million in dead money from Suh in 2019.

I'm glad to read this. I don't want that guy. He's absolute slime.

I could be wrong, but I don't believe I have seen him in the headlines as a problem child since he left Detroit.

He tried to rip Delhomme's head off, literally.





Looks like he's in a fins uni here.




https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf...miami/96066168/

Legarrette Blount doesn't think much of him either.



Pond scum. JMHO

I don't see that as a "big" deal. A 2-down player whose snap count diminished as the year went on. I think this trade was oversold by Fox as a blockbuster.

Yeah, but around here he's a big name. That makes it a "big" deal.

A "Familiar" Name. Lol

That makes him a big deal to many Browns fans.

You see here how some simply can't wrap their heads around letting him go, most with absolutely no idea what he contributes to the team or what his liabilities are. All they know is it's Danny Shelton. A player who was one of our recent first round picks and has been made a "big deal" about over the past couple of years. There's two big handfuls of players of whom those same fans couldn't care less if they're released. They're not "familiar" enough with them.

Look at the fans who are upset that we've given up on and have let Kizer go. They hate to give up hope on these "familiar" names regardless if they're helping the team or not. Browns fans cling to whatever scrap of hope they can latch onto. Perceived starters are at the top of that list.

In case some of you forgot how huge Myles is, he's in one of those Jr Reporter videos on the official website:

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-cen...fc-73af91d11c9f

Welcome to the gun show!

I agree. Many time our fandom gets in the way of seeing things as they are.