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So, we have been talking so much about who we are going to draft, so I decided to look up exactly who Dorsey has picked and what positions he has picked, to try to get a better feel of who we may pick in this draft.
2013:
1. Eric Fisher OT
3. Travis Kelce TE
3. Knile Davis RB
4. Nico Johnson LB
5. Sanders Commings CB
6. Eric Kush C
6 Braden Wilson FB
7. Mike Catapano DE
2014:
1. Dee Ford DE
3. Phillip Gaines CB
4. De'Anthoiny Thomas RB
5. Aaron Murray QB
6. Zach Fulton G
6. Laurent Duvernay Tardif OT
2015:
1. Marcus Peters CB
2. Mitch Morse G
3. Chris Conley WR
3. Steven Nelson CB
4. Ramik Wilson LB
5. D.J. Alexander LB
6. Rakeem Nunez-Roches DT
7. Da'Ron Brown WR
2016:
2. Chris Jones DT
3. KeiVarae Russell CB
4. Parker Ehinger G
4. Eric Murray CB
4. Demarcus Robinson WR
5. Kevin Hogan QB
5. Tyreek Hill WR
6. DJ White CB
6. Dadi Nicolas LB
2017:
1. Patrick Mahomes QB
2. Tanoh Kpassagnon DE
3. Kareem Hunt RB
4. Jehu Chesson WR
5. Ukeme Eligwe LB
6. Leon McQuay S
So breaking it down by round:
1st rounders: OT, DE, CB and QB.
2nd rounders: G, DT, DE
3rd round: TE, 2 RBs, 3 CBs, WR
4th round: 2 LBs, RB, G, CB, 2 WRs
5th round: CB, 2 QBs, 2 LBs, WR
6th round: C, FB, G, OT, DT, CB, LB, S
7th round: DE, WR,
And as far as trades go:
2013: Traded 2013 2nd round draft pick and 2014 2nd round draft pick for Alex Smith
2014: No trades
2015: The Chiefs traded their 3rd round pick (80th overall) and their 6th round pick (193rd overall) to the Minnesota Vikings for their 3rd round pick (76th overall)
2016: The Chiefs acquired an additional fifth-round selection in a trade that sent safety Kelcie McCray to the Seattle Seahawks.
The Chiefs traded their 1st round draft pick (28th overall) and 7th round pick (249th overall) to the San Francisco 49ers in exchange for the 49ers 2nd round pick (37th overall), 4th round pick (105th overall), and 6th round pick (178th overall)
The Chiefs traded their 2nd round draft pick (59th overall) to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in exchange the Buccaneers 3rd round pick (74th overall) and 4th round selection (106th overall)
2017: The Chiefs traded their 1st round selection, (27th overall), their 3rd round selection (91st overall), and their 2018 1st round selection for the Buffalo Bills 1st round selection (10th overall)
The Chiefs traded their 3rd round selection (104th overall), 4th round selection (132nd overall), and 7th round selection (245th overall) to the Minnesota Vikings for their 3rd round selection (83rd overall)
The Chiefs traded tight end James O'Shaughnessy and their 6th round selection (216th overall) to the New England Patriots for the Patriots 5th round selection (183rd overall)
The Chiefs traded two 5th round selections (170th overall and 180th overall) to the Minnesota Vikings for their 4th round selection (139th overall)
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So, what I get out of these numbers is this. He doesn't take WRs or RBs in the first two rounds. He prefers CB, Oline and Dline. Last year was the first time he took a QB in the first four rounds.
Early on, he didn't seem to do a lot of wheeling and dealing on draft day, but in the past 2 years he has become very active. I expect to see more of this. Whether it is moving up or down is yet to be seen.
He definitely likes later round RBs. That has been discussed at length already. The argument of course, is that he has never had a RB available with the skill set of Barkley. This is true, but he has been pretty successful with Knile Davis, DeAnthony Thomas and of course Kareem Hunt.
He likes a late round flyer on a QB. Now whether he would take one late after taking one first overall, we will see.
But to me, the biggest takeaway is his propensity to draft defensive lineman, offensive linemen and corners in the first 2 rounds. I think this is a sign of what very well could happen this year.
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I know everyone is going to over read into positions n rounds.
I think what we have to look at is his overall evaluations of best player regardless of rounds. That is the key to me. He will take anyone who is a good football player at the right time n place!
I like what I see.
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Thanks for the post. Makes me wish I was more familiar with the Chiefs holes/needs at the time(s) and the college level of talent pool to be able to evaluate it better. Given the history there though, maybe I should start thinking more about Chubb, Ogbah and Myles trio and how they all could be used?
Again, thanks for putting the post together.
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You can't form direct correlations to predict what Dorsey might do because the draft isn't static...its dynamic. Without knowing the context of who else was on the board then the choices lack context.
Dorsey by his own admission is a best player available guy and that more then anything else will guide the draft choices.
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So, we have been talking so much about who we are going to draft, so I decided to look up exactly who Dorsey has picked and what positions he has picked, to try to get a better feel of who we may pick in this draft.
2013:
1. Eric Fisher OT
3. Travis Kelce TE
3. Knile Davis RB
4. Nico Johnson LB
5. Sanders Commings CB
6. Eric Kush C
6 Braden Wilson FB
7. Mike Catapano DE
2014:
1. Dee Ford DE
3. Phillip Gaines CB
4. De'Anthoiny Thomas RB
5. Aaron Murray QB
6. Zach Fulton G
6. Laurent Duvernay Tardif OT
2015:
1. Marcus Peters CB
2. Mitch Morse G
3. Chris Conley WR
3. Steven Nelson CB
4. Ramik Wilson LB
5. D.J. Alexander LB
6. Rakeem Nunez-Roches DT
7. Da'Ron Brown WR
2016:
2. Chris Jones DT
3. KeiVarae Russell CB
4. Parker Ehinger G
4. Eric Murray CB
4. Demarcus Robinson WR
5. Kevin Hogan QB
5. Tyreek Hill WR
6. DJ White CB
6. Dadi Nicolas LB
2017:
1. Patrick Mahomes QB
2. Tanoh Kpassagnon DE
3. Kareem Hunt RB
4. Jehu Chesson WR
5. Ukeme Eligwe LB
6. Leon McQuay S
So breaking it down by round:
1st rounders: OT, DE, CB and QB.
2nd rounders: G, DT, DE
3rd round: TE, 2 RBs, 3 CBs, WR
4th round: 2 LBs, RB, G, CB, 2 WRs
5th round: CB, 2 QBs, 2 LBs, WR
6th round: C, FB, G, OT, DT, CB, LB, S
7th round: DE, WR,
And as far as trades go:
2013: Traded 2013 2nd round draft pick and 2014 2nd round draft pick for Alex Smith
2014: No trades
2015: The Chiefs traded their 3rd round pick (80th overall) and their 6th round pick (193rd overall) to the Minnesota Vikings for their 3rd round pick (76th overall)
2016: The Chiefs acquired an additional fifth-round selection in a trade that sent safety Kelcie McCray to the Seattle Seahawks.
The Chiefs traded their 1st round draft pick (28th overall) and 7th round pick (249th overall) to the San Francisco 49ers in exchange for the 49ers 2nd round pick (37th overall), 4th round pick (105th overall), and 6th round pick (178th overall)
The Chiefs traded their 2nd round draft pick (59th overall) to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in exchange the Buccaneers 3rd round pick (74th overall) and 4th round selection (106th overall)
2017: The Chiefs traded their 1st round selection, (27th overall), their 3rd round selection (91st overall), and their 2018 1st round selection for the Buffalo Bills 1st round selection (10th overall)
The Chiefs traded their 3rd round selection (104th overall), 4th round selection (132nd overall), and 7th round selection (245th overall) to the Minnesota Vikings for their 3rd round selection (83rd overall)
The Chiefs traded tight end James O'Shaughnessy and their 6th round selection (216th overall) to the New England Patriots for the Patriots 5th round selection (183rd overall)
The Chiefs traded two 5th round selections (170th overall and 180th overall) to the Minnesota Vikings for their 4th round selection (139th overall)
Good work. But WHAT POSITION was he in each round?
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BPA takes a back seat to need in some cases. This is interesting to see, and I thank you for the work. Have he ever been this front-loaded before (the position thang)? I hope he does well by us.
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Great insight. This tells me that we go...
1st Round
QB
DE
2nd Round
CB
OT
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Great insight. This tells me that we go...
1st Round
QB
DE
2nd Round
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OT By your logic here, Sam Darnold Bradley Chubb Josh Jackson/Jaire Alexander/Isaiah Oliver Connor Williams/Mike McGlinchey/Colton Miller I would be thrilled with something like this!!
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Great insight. This tells me that we go...
1st Round
QB
DE
2nd Round
CB
OT And no RB on a draft class full of talented RB's... Browns being browns
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Yes, it's a deep RB class. And we have more than 4 picks, rasta. 
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He values QB and CB quite a bit ... I won't be shocked if it's Darnold/Ward
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Great insight. This tells me that we go...
1st Round
QB
DE
2nd Round
CB
OT And no RB on a draft class full of talented RB's... Browns being browns We have 3 second rounders. Could easily still grab a RB in the late second round. Sony Michel and even Nick Chubb COULD still be there. And we could always package that and some 4th and 5th rounders to move up and grab a RB.
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He values QB and CB quite a bit ... I won't be shocked if it's Darnold/Ward I won't either. In fact I won't be shocked if it's Darnold/Ward, Darnold/Chubb, Darnold/Barkley, or Darnold/Fitzpatrick. Or Rosen/Whoever, Allen/Whoever, or Mayfield/Whoever. It's possible they tipped their hand at the pro day with Haslam chumming up Darnold's parents, but we don't really know. And it's almost impossible to assign/guess future picks from past performance. We don't know what his needs were, nor do we have a clue as to how he values or rates this year's top players. He may put a premium on certain positions like CB, OT, QB & DE, most teams do in all likelihood. But though that may be the case, and even though he's never drafted a RB in the 1st, it may not prevent him from say, taking Barkley at four if he sees him as a generational/game changing player. Which we can always use, rarely get, and desperately need. So, who knows? We'll just have to wait and see.
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Great insight. This tells me that we go...
1st Round
QB
DE
2nd Round
CB
OT And no RB on a draft class full of talented RB's... Browns being browns We have 3 second rounders. Could easily still grab a RB in the late second round. Sony Michel and even Nick Chubb COULD still be there. And we could always package that and some 4th and 5th rounders to move up and grab a RB. Due to the scarcity of OT in this draft, I think RB could be in play at #33/35.
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