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If given the choice, without taking into account arm strength, accuracy, personality, etc:
A. The player scored a 40 on the wonderlic test
B. The Player scored a 15 on the wonderlic test
I'd prefer to have A Right. It's just one more scrap of information teams use in evaluating players.
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NFL GM Says Top QB A “Project At The White Board” In Comparison To His Peers http://thespun.com/acc/louisville/lamar-jackson-project-nfl-gm
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You TOO can take the Wonderlic... http://wonderlictestsample.com/50-question-wonderlic-test/Personal notes: If you struggle with math, you won't have a great score. Language type questions are maybe just above an average vocabulary. A few trick questions and questions you'll get wrong if you read them too fast, ie... "Which list of four odd numbers equals 56?" (Didn't read the "odd" and was sure of the first list that equaled 56) "Story problems" are tough because you know you are racing the clock. There are at least 15 that are stupid easy (imo) There is not much here that translates directly to the football field other than ability to follow directions. Pretty similar to an IQ test though - so it will reveal general intellect.
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You TOO can take the Wonderlic... http://wonderlictestsample.com/50-question-wonderlic-test/Personal notes: If you struggle with math, you won't have a great score. Language type questions are maybe just above an average vocabulary. A few trick questions and questions you'll get wrong if you read them too fast, ie... "Which list of four odd numbers equals 56?" (Didn't read the "odd" and was sure of the first list that equaled 56) "Story problems" are tough because you know you are racing the clock. There are at least 15 that are stupid easy (imo) There is not much here that translates directly to the football field other than ability to follow directions. Pretty similar to an IQ test though - so it will reveal general intellect. I got a 37, and still had about 8 questions left when time ran out.
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You TOO can take the Wonderlic... http://wonderlictestsample.com/50-question-wonderlic-test/Personal notes: If you struggle with math, you won't have a great score. Language type questions are maybe just above an average vocabulary. A few trick questions and questions you'll get wrong if you read them too fast, ie... "Which list of four odd numbers equals 56?" (Didn't read the "odd" and was sure of the first list that equaled 56) "Story problems" are tough because you know you are racing the clock. There are at least 15 that are stupid easy (imo) There is not much here that translates directly to the football field other than ability to follow directions. Pretty similar to an IQ test though - so it will reveal general intellect. Thanks for the link. I scored a 44 ... some of the questions were worded somewhat strangely IMO, and others were just dumb/easy
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My link is right next to your Walsh said 1 out of 5 pass plays end up in a scramble.  Lol, so you don't have a link or a source you're just going to spew for completely unsupported opinion and pass it off as something you heard on the internet? Um...okay. I find it quite interesting that Lamar by your account hasn't been good on the white board considering Mike Mayock reported that teams are having a hard time scheduling interviews and visits with him. How can he be poor on whiteboard when he hasn't been up on the whiteboard? Maybe you know something we don't. That's why I was asking for a link because I actually appreciate having as much information as possible. If you have a source/link post it...don't meltdown when asked about it. -Oh, and stop with the false equivalency. Just because you are ignorant of Bill Walsh's Book: Finding the Winning Edge. doesn't mean you get to lump your lack of source to arguably the best football book of all time.
I can care less if you believe in what I state or not. Posters will know that they read it. You actually know you read it.
Now you are a big time Internet guy, Small time football guy.
And yet you cannot provide a link for the Walsh thing. But you ask for a link on a Lamar thing which you know is true. And posters who have read that now know you are a full of it cause this is something that has been reported.
If the link is more important to you than the reported fact. If you never heard of Lamar having lousy white board reports from teams interviews/workouts. Then that is your problem and you would rather deceive posters then discuss.
Look you don't like me cause I've called you on your made up stuff. Btw I also compliment you on your internet stat stuff.
You came here as an RG3 fan. Glad you stuck. But you are fake if you ask me.
I yam what I yam. Ignore my fact about Lamar being less than acceptable at his whiteboard. I get it he is your guy, so you would rather deceive posters than just come out with it.
Now have a good day. And I'll call you on BS I'm sure in the future. and with your prowess at the internet, thanks for that link on Bill Walsh....board notice how he has pushed this all on me not providing a link...lol 
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Lol, all this over being asked to provide a link? Wow, i'm sorry you are so sensitive that being asked to provide a source/link would caused you to meltdown and attack me like this. But asking for a source/link is a common request on this message board. As far as the rest of your post I am not sure what differentiates you from a troll? You at whim ignore myself and other people actually type and instead fabricate whatever strawman point you choose. Then when you are called on it you either ignore it, never accept it or claim that somehow it was a 'mistake'. I don't even understand why you post the way you do when time and time again I use the quote feature to expose your false claims and inaccurate claims. And since you've decided to make it personal and give your opinion of me...my opinion is that you're rude, needlessly adversarial, childish and overly sensitive. Now to the Bill Walsh QUOTE. I unlike you never claimed it was from the 'internet' like you did. When I posted that I clearly said it was from the Bill Walsh's book. There is nothing I can do to change the fact that your football knowledge is so shallow that you've never heard of the Bill Walsh's book: Finding the Winning Edge. Its a great book and I've quoted directly from the book several times. Frankly I think that when someone on the board makes a false accusation like you have made in relation to my Bill Walsh quote it should come with some type of accountability...but that's just me. Honestly, I try not to respond to your posts. But you have some unhealthy obsession with me and my posts. You constantly troll my posts like its a contest to see how much bs you can post before someone calls you on it. And for whatever reason you harbor a special dislike for Lamar Jackson. But the act is getting old and tiresome. Your posts in this thread are less about Wonderlic and more about your negative opinion of Lamar overall.
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Thanks for the link. #NFLCombine - a GM told me #BakerMayfield football IQ is “off the charts”, Darnold, Rosen excellent, Rudolph very good, Allen was so so, long way to go. Jackson is a project at the white board by comparison Since tabby has made this the Jackson thread.... I hope Jackson wasn't as quiet and soft spoken on the whiteboard as he normally appears. This is another area where having a proven agent would have helped. Whiteboard presentation, meeting with team execs and Winderlic are area of focus of Athlete's First, CAA and other sports agencies pre-draft prep.
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You TOO can take the Wonderlic... http://wonderlictestsample.com/50-question-wonderlic-test/Personal notes: If you struggle with math, you won't have a great score. Language type questions are maybe just above an average vocabulary. A few trick questions and questions you'll get wrong if you read them too fast, ie... "Which list of four odd numbers equals 56?" (Didn't read the "odd" and was sure of the first list that equaled 56) "Story problems" are tough because you know you are racing the clock. There are at least 15 that are stupid easy (imo) There is not much here that translates directly to the football field other than ability to follow directions. Pretty similar to an IQ test though - so it will reveal general intellect. If I answered 45 questions and got all 15 stupid easy ones, but missed 10 others, my final score was____?
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Thank you! This is the link that I've been looking for for awhile now. It echos what I said in a thread a few weeks ago.
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i only got 34 out of 50. this test made me feel dumb.
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If I answered 45 questions and got all 15 stupid easy ones, but missed 10 others, my final score was____?
Let's see... 45 - 10 = 35... +15 = 50... A PERFECT SCORE!
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i only got 34 out of 50. this test made me feel dumb. Tom Brady, Steve Young, Marcus Mariotta and Kirk Cousins all with 33. Not only are you practically a genius, by my estimation you should march right into the office and demand 5M per year.
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i only got 34 out of 50. this test made me feel dumb. Tom Brady, Steve Young, Marcus Mariotta and Kirk Cousins all with 33. Not only are you practically a genius, by my estimation you should march right into the office and demand 5M per year. At the very least he should start practicing his deep outs.
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I got 40 out of 48 , ran out of time.
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1. don't call me tabby...you have not earned that right.
2. I didn't make this a Jackson thread. He just so happens to be the only QB with a low number of concern...so I guess he made it a Jackson thread along with your ranking of him as the best QB.
3. Whiteboard is not something to practice at for a combine thing. Actually its something QBs should be practicing their entire career. For example, it was my sons 9-10 year old Midget coaches that came to me after his 9 year old season and asked if I could make him into a QB cause he knows the plays better than they do.
These QBs have been preparing themselves mentally for the game of football all their lives. If Lamar is struggling on the Whiteboard its a red flag. Not getting the chance to sit down with him I would have to speculate. And I would speculate that his amazing athletic ability has gotten himself to where he is and his ability to make something happen rather than the game plans and the ability to understand what a miss match and how to create a miss match. And what the keys are to signify a pre-snap read is the correct read.
Making stuff happen after a play breaks down is nice but the likelihood of it being successful in the NFL comes down a lot.
So there is a lot involved but if he is reliant on his AGENT to be good on the Whiteboard...then guess what? He is not a real QB.
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Okay. In the spirit of fostering adult conversation I will no longer call you tabby. (2) Actually you did. It started off about the Wonderlic and now its kinda you just pontificating on reason why you don't like me and Lamar Jackson. I don't care one way or another I know threads go in all sorts of directions. But, when you are the cause for the diversion just own it. What's the big deal? (3) QBs absolutely prepare for the whiteboard work they do at the combine and their team visits. Just because you are unaware or don't want to acknowledge something doesn't change cold hard facts. 3a. If Lamar is struggling on the Whiteboard its a red flag. I agree if Lamar is struggling at the whiteboard with his football knowledge its a red flag. Here is the quote: #NFLCombine - a GM told me #BakerMayfield football IQ is “off the charts”, Darnold, Rosen excellent, Rudolph very good, Allen was so so, long way to go. Jackson is a project at the white board by comparison So you got 1 anonymous GM saying that Lamar was a project on whiteboard compared to the QBs. Here is a HC on record: "We met him at the combine - very impressive," he said at the league meetings during breakfast. "He came in, one of the interviews we had. Great skill set as you know. I think he's smart with the things he articulated in the room, but we are wide open in our process." And I would speculate that his amazing athletic ability has gotten himself to where he is and his ability to make something happen rather than the game plans and the ability to understand what a miss match and how to create a miss match. Of course you do. So there is a lot involved but if he is reliant on his AGENT to be good on the Whiteboard...then guess what? He is not a real QB. Lol, I know right? Maybe he should be a WR? ....So I guess according to you people should never prepare to present information they already know? If you want to play the semantics about what 'reliant' means more power to you. But it is a fact that Athlete's 1st, CAA prepare their clients in all aspect of the pre-draft process to include interviewing and whiteboard work. Often times we pass opinion back and forth. But, when I say these guys prepare and practice this stuff I am stating facts. Also something else for you to ponder. According to you Lamar is/might be struggling on whiteboard right? Meanwhile: Lots of talk and confusion around Lamar Jackson. My understanding however, in regards to his draft stock, is that it continues to trend upward. Hard to imagine him falling him out of the 1st round. He could pretty high as well -- think about ARZ at 15 as a possibility. #NFLDraft
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Hey ed, I wish him well. I just know one thing. He is not going to come even close to being taken #1 and #4.
When do your Redskins pick, that might be a landing spot. Hey Ravens got RG3, I hope we don't lose you to them. I mean NOT THE RAVENS!
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There would be nothing in this world funnier to me then for the Browns to draft Lamar. I would probably die laughing.
But the discussion was never about whether he would go 1 or 4. Thats just a last ditch ploy to divert attention from the previous convo.
But whatevs.
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There would be nothing in this world funnier to me then for the Browns to draft Lamar. I would probably die laughing.
But the discussion was never about whether he would go 1 or 4. Thats just a last ditch ploy to divert attention from the previous convo.
But whatevs.
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There would be nothing in this world funnier to me then for the Browns to draft Lamar. I would probably die laughing.
But the discussion was never about whether he would go 1 or 4. Thats just a last ditch ploy to divert attention from the previous convo.
But whatevs.
Giving Lamar to the Browns would be like giving a Corvette to a 12 year old. I actually think it would be a good fit. Haley's offense is Erhardt-Perkins and there would be schematic and verbiage familiarity. And he would start right away. But the funny part would be the epic meltdown from my guy, eotab, lol.
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There would be nothing in this world funnier to me then for the Browns to draft Lamar. I would probably die laughing.
But the discussion was never about whether he would go 1 or 4. Thats just a last ditch ploy to divert attention from the previous convo.
But whatevs.
Giving Lamar to the Browns would be like giving a Corvette to a 12 year old. I actually think it would be a good fit. Haley's offense is Erhardt-Perkins and there would be schematic and verbiage familiarity. And he would start right away. But the funny part would be the epic meltdown from my guy, eotab, lol. Haley is a bigger moron than Hue. They can barely make a playbook suitable for a 2008 team let alone a 2018 team.
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There would be nothing in this world funnier to me then for the Browns to draft Lamar. I would probably die laughing.
But the discussion was never about whether he would go 1 or 4. Thats just a last ditch ploy to divert attention from the previous convo.
But whatevs.
Giving Lamar to the Browns would be like giving a Corvette to a 12 year old. I actually think it would be a good fit. Haley's offense is Erhardt-Perkins and there would be schematic and verbiage familiarity. And he would start right away. But the funny part would be the epic meltdown from my guy, eotab, lol. Not just Eotab
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JMHO, if you remember Josh Cribbs had some success in the Wildcat for us....if we used a 2nd on LM I wouldn't be upset, he's talented and could contribute in number of ways....GO Browns!!!!
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I took one on a different site and that test is dumb.
I just watched Danny Kannell(sp) on Cowherd's show (youtube) and he was saying that the test is garbage.
I agree. It proves absolutely nothing. I got a 21/30 and most of those were because I didn't want to spend time doing the math. And I missed the last question because I was out of time.
I'm imagining that if you don't answer questions it marks them wrong. So a Lamar Jackson 1) probably wasn't as prepared for other test takers because he doesn't have an agent working with him. 2) Perhaps he was just trying to get the answers right instead of working for speed.
Either way, I don't think his score is remotely indicative of his skill or translates to his ability in the league.
Imagine if you had never driven or seen a car in your life, and you were tasked with taking the drivers test, how well would you have done? And does failure that that point mean you will never learn to drive a car?
I get that it's a measurement tool for evaluators but it's a terrible tool.
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What ever rocks your boat, I guess you are not a real Browns' fan.
But that is one laugh you will never experience unless we decide to take 2 QBs as Lamar is sitting there at 64???
All the QB discussion has been about the Browns QB and we will take one at #1, possibly a 1-5% chance at 4. How can you say the discussion isn't about 1 or 4. Its really the only discussion one can have for a Brown's drafted QB. Unless you wish to talk about a possible later round pick as a 2nd QB...which realistically has to be just an incredible steal cause we got TT and a good backup vet in Stanton. Possibly a practice Squad QB???
But here we are and your QB of choice for the Browns is Lamar which is not only unrealistic but quite frankly a poor choice.
Now there is the subpar showing on white board (rumored) backed up with a low 13 on the Wonderlic - will he have what it would take to become an NFL QB? The kid is an excellent athlete but I don't know if he's a good candidate for QB. And for you to state he is the best QB in this draft. Well I rest my case.
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No eotab. All your post maybe about taking a QB at 1 or 4. My posts are about evaluating and discussing draft prospects from QBs to DBs. And yes Lamar is my highest rated QB.
Lol, "don't know if he's a good candidate for a QB."
Your obessive dislike for Lamar and how personal you take it is amusing.
And for the record, lol like that matters to you, I've never said the Browns should take him or that Lamar will go top 4.
As much as you follow my posts im sure you've read where i said that I think Lamar will get drafted around the Cardinals pick.
Btw do you post this negatively about Mason Rudolph? Razor has him as his top QB.
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Prolly not ed ... tabber likes accuracy ... Jackson isn’t accurate, Mason is .... 
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Btw do you post this negatively about Mason Rudolph? Razor has him as his top QB. Well then he's a hypocrite. Read his last post. Lol, he's making the obviously fictional claim that our discussion of Lamar was specifically about picks 1 and 4. And said he feels Lamar was an 'unrealistic' option as if that was the reason for his dislike. But if that fiction is true then he should feel and post the same way about Mason Rudolph because he's universally considered a lower ranked QB prospect then Lamar and Razor has Mason as his top QB. Mason is far more unrealistic option at picks 1 or 4 then Lamar. So if that is actually the reason for his dislike then he should be obsessively posting negative opinions of Mason as also.
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Its all in the eyes of the beholder ed .... everyone values certain things differently ...
Rudolph’s accurate ... tab values that more than Jacksons combination of Jackson’s Atheleticsm/lack of accuracy ...
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tab posts obsessively negative opinions about Lamar because according to him the discussion about has been about picks 1 and 4 and according to him Lamar is an unrealistic prospect at 1 and 4. Mason is universally ranked below Lamar. Razor has Mason as his top rated QB. Then tab should post just as obsessively negative thoughts about Mason then he does about Lamar because Mason is an even more unrealistic option at picks 1 and 4. Btw do you post this negatively about Mason Rudolph? Razor has him as his top QB.
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I wouldn't be upset if we took Allen #1
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I wouldn't be upset if we took Allen #1
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J/c ...
I hope we take the one that turns out to be the best ... and at this moment NO ONE knows who that’ll be ...
I have my favorite ... Darnold ... 2 others i really like .... Rosen and Mayfield .... Allen intrigues me ...
I like Rudolph .. he could end up being Big Bens replacement ... and that would SUCK ...
If we draft Jackson I will hope like all hell to have Swish and Ed shoving it up my butthole in 3 or 4 years ...
This is a REALLY GOOD - GREAT QB class ...
Quite frankly ... the differences between the top 3 are minuscule ... and i think it depends as much on personal style than anything on what decides who your favorite is ...
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I still have a lot of questions about Mayfield having control issues that may end up haunting us.
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Your obessive dislike for Lamar and how personal you take it is amusing.
Nice to make up things. Obsessive? how so just the fact this is a thread on the Wonderlic and per chance he scored 13 not my doing.
When we talk about QBs you got Lamar as the best and Mayfield as the 2nd best.
I think your internet contributions are excellent. I think your football contributions are marginal. I think your choice of BEST QB in this draft class is totally missing the point and its like you talk things (which I'm sure you just read and then regurgitate which is ok) but then you actually shocked me when you put your hat into the Lamar ring for best QB.
Obsessive dislike for Lamar...no, if we are having a discussion about QBs I for good reason do not have him up very high.
When the NFL becomes a flag football league that is when I'll go along with a Lamar type QB, until then I think he is a poor choice for an NFL QB. I don't go thread to thread with some anti-Lamar agenda. If you or others bring it up, sure I will shoot it down but what are you asking? For me to let you say what ever you wish and if I actually join the discussion and don't agree with you, you make this absurd suggestion that I'm obsessed with this.
I can smell BS a mile a way and although I appreciate you internet sharing of facts I don't relate that to you ACTUAL knowing what you are talking about.
Do you actually read the facts you put forward. Why I actually was shocked to learn Lamar is your guy. I can see if you like the kid. He is a good kid. But to state he is the best QB in this class...well absurd.
later. And stop making up stuff about me. I don't know you personally but as mentioned I think you are full of crap.
Defense wins championships. Watson play your butt off!
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Btw do you post this negatively about Mason Rudolph? Razor has him as his top QB.Well for one I respect Razor, I don't respect you.
But when he brought it up I laid into him the first week or so. I see no reason to continue it. You just came out of the closet so I'm laying into you know. You have a choice to actually talk football and convince me why you think Lamar is the best QB in this class. Nope, you chose to attack me personally, maybe you can ask ratsaplan for some advice on attacking me further...lol
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Well Lamar is no RG3, but........
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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Well then he's a hypocrite. Read his last post. Lol, he's making the obviously fictional claim that our discussion of Lamar was specifically about picks 1 and 4.
Wah! Wah! my goodness btw you were the one who brought up 1 & 4 I just answered it.
If you are claiming a QB is actually the best then we have to be talking about #1 or #4.
I'm done with you. I don't expect you here long cause of the RG3 movement to the Ravens...If you wish to remain a Browns fan great.
But talk football if you would like. If Lamar is the best explain why.
Not attack me.
As was noted he is not that accurate. His biggest plus is making up his own thing and playing street ball and running around. In the NFL and with his slight frame (Cam Newton is built like a LB) he will not last. He is no way near the QB Watson is but if he runs like Watson did last year he too will end up on the IR...how long to QBs last getting beat up in the NFL. RG3 light years better. He has a tough time getting a job cause he is damaged goods now. That is the major reason I dislike Lamar as a QB in the NFL and think he is a poor investment.
You have to have success throwing in the pocket or making some lateral moves within the pocket and make Accurate throws. If you cannot do that basic fundamental QB function you are doomed as an NFL QB.
Maybe Lamar can learn and really become a football intelligent NFL QB but there we got that White Board inefficiently and also a low Wonderlic test to boot.
Balls in your court, I like the kid nothing against him personally I do think anyone touting him as the best QB in this draft doesn't know what they are talking about.
Defense wins championships. Watson play your butt off!
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Btw do you post this negatively about Mason Rudolph? Razor has him as his top QB.Well for one I respect Razor, I don't respect you.
But when he brought it up I laid into him the first week or so. I see no reason to continue it. You just came out of the closet so I'm laying into you know. You have a choice to actually talk football and convince me why you think Lamar is the best QB in this class. Nope, you chose to attack me personally, maybe you can ask ratsaplan for some advice on attacking me further...lol Ughh...i remember when I put you on ignore.
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