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OK. We now have 8 pages on Josh Gordon and nothing other than him sticking to his training seems to be happening. Why are so many rooting for him to fail? I don't think anyone is rooting for him to fail. What some are doing is refusing to ignore his history and realize the odds of his success at this point. Some are not willing to be naive in the fact Josh has always said the right thing and done the wrong thing. Just because some are willing to take an objective look at what he's brought to the table doesn't mean they don't hope for the best. Those are two entirely different things.
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What kind of message do you send when you make a player who misses all practices, does not play the game for years, and has a history of bad behavior, your automatic starter? There is a message sent that is powerful and worth the risk, even if Gordon fails to complete his end of the deal.
Players in the lockerroom, especially the youngest, will look at Gordon and think about the franchise that stuck with him, backing him all the way with "unwavering support".
Even if Gordon fails, the players on the team and around the NFL will have an opinion of the Browns organization and how they stood "with" Gordon.
JMO, but the Browns management since Haslam took over hasn't exactly operated as a tightly nit family group. The Browns still have an "image" problem and Cleveland remains one of the last places some players would like to play for.
The Browns have done all they can for Gordon and regardless of how the Gordon situation turns out, players around the NFL will not forget that.
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Why are so many rooting for him to fail? That's weird... that's pretty much the opposite of how I would characterize the majority of this read. TLDR? Yeah, I'm not rooting for him to fail, but I'm being super realistic given the history that's at hand.
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What we know is Gordon has been great so far. His reinstatement came following at least a year of sobriety. He's been back for almost six months.
That's a damn good start. His history is one thing, but constantly hanging on for an inevitable failure must be getting exhausting if you've been anticipating it this long.
Where is the cut off? Two years? Three years? Ten years? If you consider his failure "super realistic" after a year and a half of personal success, where is the point where you downgrade it to something like "marginally realistic"?
I get the feeling it's a forever thing. Which is a shame. That year and a half is something we should all be proud of Flash for. Personally, I'm putting some faith in him. He's earned it.
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Someone in another thread said the only thing Gordon does now is watch anime. They were right, lol.
I started following him on IG and all he does is post stories of anime and photobomb his teammates...
Adding Landry to the fold and getting Taylor I think helps him hit the reset button as well.
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TODAY is the only cut off .. if u knew anything about addiction ... YOU’D KNOW THAT ..
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Where is the cut off? Where is the cut off? Two years? Three years? Ten years? If you consider his failure "super realistic" after a year and a half of personal success, where is the point where you downgrade it to something like "marginally realistic"?? Three years? Ten years? If you consider his failure "super realistic" after a year and a half of personal success, where is the point where you downgrade it to something like "marginally realistic"? when he starts putting full effort into every play... when he starts running the right routes consistently. thats when i will believe he changed.
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A day at a time is just not a saying .. its a way of life!!! He's working every second of every minute of every hour... for life. Grace and Courage and Wisdom.... that's Josh's Life now.
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Changed as a player or changed as a person.
Yes, one's attitude can be impacted by their play on the field; however, you are saying that if he dogs it on the field, he isn't changed as a person?
He's into any gameplan where he's an important part. Get him a good QB and a run game and Gordon is going to be stellar.
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CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Josh Gordon and three others have signed their exclusive rights free agents contracts. The others are fullback Danny Vitale, receiver Matt Hazel, and offensive lineman Austin Reiter. Gordon, a 2013 Pro Bowler, will make $790,000 this year because of his suspension-marred NFL career. The total is the veteran minimum for a player with two accrued seasons. It's a far cry from the five-year, $75.5 million extension Jarvis Landry signed on Friday night. The Browns began their offseason program at their facility on Monday. Here's some background the ERFAs from the Browns' release: Gordon joined the Browns as a second-round pick in the 2012 supplemental draft. He has appeared in 40 games and recorded 179 receptions for 3,089 yards and 15 touchdowns. In 2013, he led the NFL with 1,646 receiving yards. He appeared in five games in 2017 and registered 18 receptions for 335 yards and one touchdown. Hazel was signed to the Browns' active roster from Indianapolis' practice squad on Dec. 13, 2017. Originally a sixth-round pick by Miami in 2014, Hazel has appeared in nine career games. Reiter was signed to the Browns' active roster from Washington's practice squad on Sept. 20, 2016. Originally a seventh-round pick by Washington in 2015, Reiter has appeared in 17 career games, including all 16 with the Browns in 2017. Vitale was signed to the Browns' active roster from Tampa Bay's practice squad on Oct. 14, 2016. Originally a sixth-round pick by the Buccaneers in 2016, Vitale has appeared in 24 career games with nine starts. He appeared in 15 games with six starts last year. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/04/josh_gordon_1.html
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Who wouldn't trade a second round pick for a guy who will become a free agent next year?
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Who wouldn't trade a second round pick for a guy who will become a free agent next year? Gordon? Unless I am sorely mistaken, he'll be an RFA next season, and if he stays clean this year, I expect the Browns to tender him at the highest level, and then work on a multi year deal.
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Signing Landry to that big contract was smart on another level too. It says to Josh, keep your stuff together and you can have this and much more. If he keeps it together there's a huge long-term contract in his future.
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Signing Landry to that big contract was smart on another level too. It says to Josh, keep your stuff together and you can have this and much more. If he keeps it together there's a huge long-term contract in his future. +1
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Who wouldn't trade a second round pick for a guy who will become a free agent next year?
Thought he becomes a RFA next year.???
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Who wouldn't trade a second round pick for a guy who will become a free agent next year?
Thought he becomes a RFA next year.??? He does. He has onl;y 2 accrued seasons right now. He is an ERFA, After this year, assuming that he doesn't sign an extension, and assuming that we tender him a contract next off-season, he will be an RFA next off-season.
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