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I think Frye is BETTER than our team made him look last year... I still don't think we can be a playoff team with him... He stares down receivers, fumbles too much, makes poor decisions, and has a hard time reading the field...
Everything in that statement is true... The question I have is those times he stared down recievers,, is it possable that he did that because he's basically was a second year guy who didn't play alot the first year.. Some guys just develop at different rates..
As for reading the field and decision making,,, could that be the result of the same thing,, just being young..
You are right, he does try to do to much,, and I noticed that's when he gets into trouble most often... could it be that if he trusted his teammates more,, that would settle down,,
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If I am not mistaken, pro bowl QB Jeff Garcia stared down WRs and was skittish in the pocket when he as a veteran signed with the Browns. Granted, he was a washed up hack who no longer belonged in the league... 
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Brady Quinn's contract is not the business of the fans.
Quinn's contract is the concern of those who negotiated the contract and came to "agreement".
Brady Quinn's contract involves a salary..... Salaries affect a salary cap.... Salary caps affect what players we are able to keep on the team....Who we have on the team affects "Pure Football".
Brady Quinn's contract is the business of the fans of the Cleveland Browns because he is a Cleveland Brown.
canada and coach....I touched on the cap issue earlier.
Are the Browns in cap trouble?
Is Randy Lerner now broke?
Answer those two questions then get back with me.
Brady Quinn's contract is not your business...or mine....mac
Are the Browns in cap trouble? Not this year...no. But contracts usually span several years mac...not just one. It's called MANAGING your cap. If all you do is look at the one year, you'll find yourself quickly in cap hell.... or do you not remember losing players left right and centre in 03 because Botch ignored cap implications for the future.
And Randy Lerner will likely never be broke, He can always sell Aston Villa.
Ever since free agency was brought in, the financial side of things have become a part of sports. Therefore, it is a topic of discussion among fans.
In an age where financial decisions are a key pillar of how sports teams are managed, fans should have a basic grasp of how things operate if they want to be informed about everything that affects their team.
Listen, I'm very happy we signed Quinn. I think we did overpay and that might bite us in the ass later...but its a done deal and I'm excited to see BQ in a Browns uni.
But really, if you don't want to participate in a discussion about the financial implications of the BQ signing, then don't. Some of us want to, and will.
if you don;t like it...blow.
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You are right, he does try to do to much,, and I noticed that's when he gets into trouble most often... could it be that if he trusted his teammates more,, that would settle down,,
Yeah, I don't think anyone would question Charlie's effort or heart. Derek seems like a warrior too. That being said, I expect Brady to be a tank on the field too but a little more upside and polish.
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The Quinn contract won't hurt too much. He is actually a cost savings to the Browns. The Browns didn't have to pay for the 2nd round pick they traded away in 2007 to move up and get Quinn. Similarly, the Browns would probably have picked around #7 in 2008. They won't have to pay for that top 10 contract. The Cowboys will have to pick up the tab - SUCKERS! Hahahahahaha, we schooled them!
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Saint...thanks for the good read.
I like the fact that Quinn is confident in his ability but he "may" be in for a surprise or two.
First, he has not played against NFL speed yet and it will take time to adjust to the speed of the game...
Second, though he does realize he will have to earn his way, he may be a little naive about is just how long it may take for him to "earn" his way.
There are 3 other guys who want the same prize and that will make Quinn's quest for the starting job harder and it could take much longer than he thinks.
I welcome Quinn to the Browns and wish him the best.
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Just heard jim rome rip BQ a new one! Wow! anyone else catch that?
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Anyways, what I'm saying is, the team wins as a team and loses as a team,
Exactly my point, and that's why I posted this before
Top 5 winning percentages of Browns QB's since 1999
37.3% - (22-37) - Tim Couch
36.4% - (4-8) - Trent Dilfer
33.3% - (6-12) - Charlie Frye
30.8% - (4-9) - Kelly Holcomb
30.0% - (3-7) - Jeff Garcia
Basically all the same.
QB Ratings from our leading passer since our return
1999 - 73.2 - Tim Couch
2000 - 77.3 - Tim Couch
2001 - 73.1 - Tim Couch
2002 - 76.8 - Tim Couch
2003 - 74.6 - Kelly Holcomb
2004 - 76.7 - Jeff Garcia
2005 - 76.9 - Trent Dilfer
2006 - 72.2 - Charlie Frye
Basically all the same.
Jeff Garcia's QB Rating
88.3 - while in San Fran
76.7 - while in Cleveland
65.1 - while in Detroit
95.8 - while in Philly
Steve Young, poor results in Tampa, great results in San Fran.
Bad teams force QB's to put up poor results, good teams help QB's succeed.
QB Ratings from Frye last year and our Opponents QB
Start 1: 68.8 - Brees -------------- 53.3 - Frye
Start 2: 84.6 - Palmer ------------- 58.1 - Frye
Start 3: 90.2 - Frye --------------- 83.8 - McNair
Start 4: 89.6 - Frye --------------- 43.6 - Walter
Start 5: 95.5 - Delhomme ---------- 49.9 - Frye
Start 6: 66.4 - Frye --------------- 51.8 - Plummer
Start 7: 81.8 - Frye --------------- 21.1 - Pennington
Start 8: 90.0 - Rivers ------------- 72.3 - Frye
Start 9: 109.1 - Frye -------------- 43.4 - Vick
Start 10: 89.1 - Frye -------------- 61.9 - Roethlisberger
Start 11: 120.7 - Palmer ----------- 40.9 - Frye
Start 12: 131.4 - Frye ------------- 129.8 - Green
Start 13: 74.0 - Frye --------------- 48.2 - Carr
8 times Frye had a higher QB Rating than the opposing QB
5 times Frye had a lower QB Rating than the opposing QB
4 - 100 rushing games by the Browns
11 - 100 rushing games by our Opponents
1 - 150 rushing game by the Browns
7 - 150 rushing games by our Opponents
Why was Cincy 8-8 last year? They were 26th in rushing, the year before when they made the playoffs and won the Division they were 11th in rushing.
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"It's awful," he said. "You grow up loving the game that you've played and all of a sudden you're told you can't come in unless you sign a contract. To sit out from playing the game that you love for that long is horrible.
Did he just fall off the turnip wagon?That's been the way of the NFL since before it was the NFL.Besides,he's not completely blameless in all of this.
I felt a little sorry for him on draft day,I'm so-so on trading up to get him,his holdout was no big deal and was expected.
But,please,just STFU about it and play football.I don't care what you did on your summer vacation,or who you're doing what to,just win some damn games and stop trying to people.
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So you use QB Rating as the base of your agruement? The Wise Man built his house upon the rock...but I fear you built yours on quicksand.
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Just heard jim rome rip BQ a new one! Wow! anyone else catch that?
Yeah, I heard it and to be honest, Rome is kinda wrong on this one I think.
I didn't like the holdout,, but by the looks of it, neither did Quinn. It's a business thing, we all know that. Rome knows it also. But Condon, the guy that Quinn trusted to get the best deal he could, gave him some advice.
What's the good of hiring an expert (condon qualifies I think) and then not taking his advice.
So while I didn't and don't like the idea that he held out and I absolutly believe it will stunt his growth, I don't think his teammates will hold it against him and I am pretty sure RAC doesn't hold it against him..
Rome said that RAC was giving Quinn the Parcells treatment by only referring to him as "the Quarterback"! I kinda got a kick out of that in one sense. It was a pretty clear attempt to place pressure on Quinn and Condon to get the deal done... But you won't really make me believe that RAC doesn't understand the business of football.. he knows what's what.
I have to believe that if Quinn comes to camp starting today,, Blows all the other QB's away and earns the starters job, RAC will give it to him... again, only if he earns it! I bet not another word will be spoken about the hold out. 
Now, if Quinn comes in and stinks the place up, RAC is gonna use that to motivate next years draft picks into getting here on time NO MATTER WHAT! He'll use it and he should!
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Yeah, shotty... just saw it.
Vintage Rome.
Never been a huge 'Romer,' but I'll say this: he didn't rip Brady any harder than some of these rabidazz Dawgs in this forum.. and he wasn't saying anything that I could argue with, either.
I've been one of those silent hounds about Quinn's holdout, realizing that the offseason is the moneymanagers' playoff season. But judging the lively discourse in this thread, I'd say Rome had a pretty good handle on Brady's current situation.
Let's hope the young man settles in, learns his job, and starts regaining the fans he's lost over the past 2 weeks.
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I didn't like the holdout,, but by the looks of it, neither did Quinn.
I'm sorry, but I find this hard to believe. Quinn liked the hold out because he got more money than what he would have got with the first contract and getting in on time. He is just making it sound like he isn't the bad guy to the press so he won't lose endorsements. I'm all for players holding out for more money, but to believe that players don't like hold outs...BS!
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And what I am saying is that stats aside Frye has looked bad to me when I have seen him in person... I've seen him in person at least 9 times (home games) none were preseason...
I have never been impressed with him, even the first game he played against the Jags, Braylon really made him look good that game with two brilliant catches.
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Brady Quinn's contract is not your business...or mine....mac
Jesus... you sound like Soup and his "run 30 times or you lose" crap...
It's a message board... people aren't allowed to give their opinions on someone's contract...
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I didn't like the holdout,, but by the looks of it, neither did Quinn.
I'm sorry, but I find this hard to believe. Quinn liked the hold out because he got more money than what he would have got with the first contract and getting in on time. He is just making it sound like he isn't the bad guy to the press so he won't lose endorsements. I'm all for players holding out for more money, but to believe that players don't like hold outs...BS!
I think you're close... but there's no way I can think that he 'liked' the hold-out... he liked the money result from it... but to miss practice time??? no way he liked that...
I can't imagine ANY player LIKES a hold-out... they may like the result of it financially and understand that it might be necessary... but in no way do they enjoy missing time.
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I didn't like the holdout,, but by the looks of it, neither did Quinn.
I'm sorry, but I find this hard to believe. Quinn liked the hold out because he got more money than what he would have got with the first contract and getting in on time. He is just making it sound like he isn't the bad guy to the press so he won't lose endorsements. I'm all for players holding out for more money, but to believe that players don't like hold outs...BS!
I think you're close... but there's no way I can think that he 'liked' the hold-out... he liked the money result from it... but to miss practice time??? no way he liked that...
I can't imagine ANY player LIKES a hold-out... they may like the result of it financially and understand that it might be necessary... but in no way do they enjoy missing time.
I think the truth is in between what you and I said. I think they could care less as long as they get paid, and honestly I think that way about every professional player, no matter who it is.
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Guess we'll have to disagree... I find it hard to believe that most of these guys would care less about missing playtime... being a competitive athlete is something hard to turn off... but I do think that they understand having to hold out to get paid at times.
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Brady Quinn's contract is not your business...or mine....mac
Jesus... you sound like Soup and his "run 30 times or you lose" crap...
It's a message board... people aren't allowed to give their opinions on someone's contract...
lmao
I loved those freaking rants from back in the day. He used to tell everyone thats why Couch never played well.. because Green needed to run 40 times lol. According to Soup it doesnt matter if we only gain one yard every play we will win if we run 40 times.
On the subject, we should all be happy Quinn signed before the first preseason game. Seems like Condon was being a bit of a d... but thats the business these days. Kinda like the Postons telling everyone that the Jets told them that if they had the first pick in the draft they'd take Winslow. Listening to the Quinns invterview he sounded very mature especially for the questions from the media. I definately hope he takes us to the promised land and wins the big one.
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Jesus... you sound like Soup and his "run 30 times or you lose" crap...
It's a message board... people aren't allowed to give their opinions on someone's contract...
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I loved those freaking rants from back in the day. He used to tell everyone thats why Couch never played well.. because Green needed to run 40 times lol. According to Soup it doesnt matter if we only gain one yard every play we will win if we run 40 times.
On the subject, we should all be happy Quinn signed before the first preseason game. Seems like Condon was being a bit of a d... but thats the business these days. Kinda like the Postons telling everyone that the Jets told them that if they had the first pick in the draft they'd take Winslow. Listening to the Quinns invterview he sounded very mature especially for the questions from the media. I definately hope he takes us to the promised land and wins the big one.
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I'm sorry, but I find this hard to believe. Quinn liked the hold out because he got more money than what he would have got with the first contract and getting in on time.
Maybe, Maybe not,, Who knows! But honestly, sure Quinn likes the extra money,, who in thier right wouldn't. But to say that he liked the holdout,, nope, I'm not buying into that theory... But you are free to if you wish!
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The Couch vs. Holcomb debates were great
And if you think I was rough on the "AP Pimps"?????
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I remember quite a few who wanted to draft "Lil Petey Warrick" ( Bungle WR) in round 1.................
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dont forget all the William Green vs. Lee Suggs debates..
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dont forget all the William Green vs. Lee Suggs debates..
Isn't it funny how all of these debates revolve around 2 mediocre players?
Every time we get rid of these guys they go on to start for NOBODY.
Funny but there will always be these type of debates but if either guy was the answer we would all know it. Do you think Packer fans were debating between Favre and Don Majkowski? 
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I just don't understand the $26,000 dollar question.
The "average" football player makes about 2 million a year. If I recall, the cap is about 109 million and there are 53 players.
So does that mean the fans won't watch football because players earn millions of dollars.
Frankly if someone wants to pay a 22 yr old big bucks, good for them. I hope they do well.
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Funny but there will always be these type of debates but if either guy was the answer we would all know it.
Do you actually read some of the posts on this board?
We would ALL know it??????
I can buy into "many would know it" but "all"???
Nah,I ain't buying that!
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If I am not mistaken, pro bowl QB Jeff Garcia stared down WRs and was skittish in the pocket when he as a veteran signed with the Browns. Granted, he was a washed up hack who no longer belonged in the league...
As I recall, he did pretty good for Philly last year...10-td's 2-int's 62.7 comp%
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Brady Quinn's contract is not your business...or mine....mac
You must have learned that from me in the discussion we had a couple of years back when you were making your demands on what the Browns should be going after in Winslow's second contract.
Since when did you become this homeresque, goody-two-shoes?
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A trailing Quinn looks to catch up Posted by Mary Kay Cabot August 08, 2007 21:59PM Categories: Browns Rookie quarterback Brady Quinn has spent the past 15 years dreaming about returning the Browns to their glory days, and he's not about to let an 11-day holdout deter him from that. Asked Wednesday morning if he still plans to start this season despite missing 16 training camp practices, Quinn said, "Without a doubt." But he did back off his minicamp goal of starting on opening day Sept. 9 against the Pittsburgh Steelers. "I think it's up to the coaching staff," he said. "There are some things you can't control. All I can do is come in, try to catch back up and do the best I can." Quinn, 22, met with the media Wednesday morning after ending his holdout Tuesday afternoon. He signed a seven-year deal worth $20.2 million, including a $7.75 million signing bonus. The deal can escalate to $30 million based on playing time. His long-awaited first practice Wednesday afternoon was closed to the public and media. The Browns had planned to practice privately at Cleveland Browns Stadium, but moved it to Berea because of heavy rain. When they did, they left it closed. Quinn will make his public debut at 2:30 p.m. today. "It's just nice to be an official member of the Browns," Quinn said. "Draft day was a very long enduring process and getting here was a long enduring process -- something I never imagined going through or wanted to. It was tough not being in camp." He said he knows he'll have to win back some of the fans who were upset with his holdout. "You never want to come off as [spoiled]," Quinn said. "If anyone knew me, they wouldn't say those words. I'm an Ohio kid, so I understand what this town's about. I've obviously been graced by God to have this opportunity. Of course I wanted to be there Day One, especially competing for a starting job." Quinn received advice from his college coach, Charlie Weis, about how to rejoin the team. "The players after they haze him, razz him for a couple of days, you just move on," Weis told the Associated Press. "As long as you go in there and . . . keep your mouth shut and try to outwork everyone and play, you win over your teammates and you win over the coaching staff. Then with the fans, there's some things you have to do there. Because when you come in you're always painted as the bad guy. In reality, he's just a football player." Weis added, "I think it won't take long before they're in love with Brady Quinn. Because he's an easy guy to fall for." Quinn is prepared for his lumps from coach Romeo Crennel, who doesn't favor top draft picks. He's also hard on holdouts. Two years ago, receiver Braylon Edwards started out fifth on the depth chart after coming in late. Crennel has already said Quinn will be last behind Charlie Frye, Derek Anderson and Ken Dorsey. He'll also take only a few snaps Saturday night against the Chiefs. "You understand that coming in," Quinn said. "I don't deserve anything. I've got to earn everything I get." Crennel wouldn't address whether or not Quinn is out of the running to start on opening day, but agreed he'd have to climb a mountain to do so. "I'm not going to make any determination [on Pittsburgh] without him having been here and in pads." During his holdout, Quinn trained twice a day at the Athlete's Performance Institute in Phoenix with other NFL pros. He also studied Browns film. A double major at Notre Dame in finance and political science, Quinn is known for his intelligence and work ethic. He bought a house in Avon Lake partly to be closer to his quarterbacks coach, Rip Scherer. In organized team activities and minicamps, he threw five interceptions in the first few days of practice and then only one in the final 17 sessions. "I know I have a lot of catching up to do, but I'll do whatever it takes," Quinn said. He said he wasn't aware that his top two contenders struggled in the early part of camp. "You can't worry about your competition," he said. "A lot of times when guys are competing, they get too wrapped up in what the other guy's doing and not worried about what they can improve on." Steinbach sprain: Guard Eric Steinbach's right knee injury was diagnosed as a sprain. He's still expected to miss a couple of weeks, but Crennel will provide the update today. . . . Linebacker Willie McGinest underwent his back exam in Los Angeles Wednesday, but results won't be available until today. http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2007/08/a_trailing_quinn_looks_to_catc.html
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as long as Steinbach is back b4 game 1 of the regular season.. im happy
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Weis added, "I think it won't take long before they're in love with Brady Quinn. Because he's an easy guy to fall for."
I wish to wash my Irish wristwatch......
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Weis added, "I think it won't take long before they're in love with Brady Quinn. Because he's an easy guy to fall for."
so all the advice and talks Weis has had w/ Rac... was he really right about Quinn... or was he blinded by "love?"
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I'm glad he's in and really glad the BS is over. Now if he shuts up and works hard he'll be our starter by week 8, and the hole that has been the QB position will be solved.
Against logic,the most effective armor is willful ignorance.
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He signed a seven-year deal worth $20.2 million, including a $7.75 million signing bonus. The deal can escalate to $30 million based on playing time.
When did this become a seven year contract?
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When for the brief and fleeting moment that typo was made. 
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