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Ah, so now you wish to make an issue of NFL players kneeling but refuse to address Roseann did even worse by changing the subject. Got it. Thanks for playing.


She did it ONCE and was chastised for it the players continuously disrespect.


Disrespect???? The US flag represents a country that is continuously disrespecting minorities.


In what way does the country disrespect minorities and what can I do to make things better?


Not calling them racial slurs would be a good start.


Why do they(minorities) use racial slurs on themselves? It's used in a lot of the music as well.

I didn't know that Arabs and Indians self-referred to themselves as 'camel jockey'.

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If you don't want others calling you a certain word why would you use it on yourself? Does that make sense?

Yes. I know a lot of rednecks who call themselves that but if a city dude called them that, they would fight. I know a lot of women who refer to themselves as b*tches, but I don't want to be the guy that calls them that... I know a lot of families that pick and poke fun and call each other names in jest all the time, but will rally around if an outsider makes the same comment about a family member because suddenly it's not funny.. Browns fans make fun of how bad we are but get all bent out of shape when some non-Browns fan makes fun of us... this is a concept as old as time.. we (whoever we is) can make fun of ourselves and have slang terms for ourselves but if you are not one of us, then you cannot use them.. sorry, those are the rules.


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I didn't know that Arabs and Indians self-referred to themselves as 'camel jockey'.


How do you know they don't?

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I didn't know that Arabs and Indians self-referred to themselves as 'camel jockey'.


How do you know they don't?


Because I hang out with them? Why would someone call themselves that?

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I didn't know that Arabs and Indians self-referred to themselves as 'camel jockey'.


How do you know they don't?


Because I hang out with them? Why would someone call themselves that?


Why would someone call themselves the "N" word?

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Because it's been a word and classification for centuries. Why do white people call black people the n word?

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Because it's been a word and classification for centuries. Why do white people call black people the n word?


Don't know I don't. So black people want to be classified as the "N" word is that what your are saying?

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No. Are you saying you want to call black people the N word?

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No. Are you saying you want to call black people the N word?


Nope. just asking you why black people refer to themselves as the "N" word.

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She sang the Anthem as well as Oboma ran the country.



"He's here all week, folks. Try the-
uh.... folks?
People?"

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Originally Posted By: Vambo
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No. Are you saying you want to call black people the N word?


Nope. just asking you why black people refer to themselves as the "N" word.

I have no idea why black people do that. Honestly it makes me uncomfortable to hear it either from individual to individual or in the music... but most importantly, I know that me using it is just different than them using it amongst themselves.. not that I would use it anyway.......


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Originally Posted By: Vambo
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No. Are you saying you want to call black people the N word?


Nope. just asking you why black people refer to themselves as the "N" word.


Are you sure that's it? Many people have told you reasons and you haven't responded to then. You're fascination about this has gone on for months and on multiple topics. For example, you brought up this topic when everyone else was talking about how DD called a guy from Mumbai a 'Camel Jockey'. Are you sure you just don't really want to say the N word?

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You've explained it very well. Vambo is just trolling.

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No. Are you saying you want to call black people the N word?


Nope. just asking you why black people refer to themselves as the "N" word.


Are you sure that's it? Many people have told you reasons and you haven't responded to then. You're fascination about this has gone on for months and on multiple topics. For example, you brought up this topic when everyone else was talking about how DD called a guy from Mumbai a 'Camel Jockey'. Are you sure you just don't really want to say the N word?


This is the first time I have asked the question here, why do you want to make things up?

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My feelings on the subject are the players need to find a better way to get their cause across as kneeling during the Anthem has been interpreted by millions as a sign of disrespect to our Nation.

I support their cause but I hate seeing people kneel during the Anthem. To me it is right up there with burning the Flag, legal but disrespectful.


This issue should now be dead. The rules are written, the Owners and League have set the list of demands for employment. The players have the option of standing for the Anthem or remaining in the locker room. They have been given ideas to further their cause outside of Game Day.

If by chance the players decide to do an "up yours" and kneel anyway, which I expect they will do, they will be seen as saying "up yours" to the Owners, to the Profession, to the Fans and to America herself. Their insubordination will be seen as childish and privileged rebellious behavior. It will be taken as "We are above your rules and could care less what you think."

This will certainly not work in their favor or the favor of their cause. It may actually convince even more millions of people to turn off the games.

My final advice is to come out for the National Anthem and stand proudly.
This will be greeted with a rousing applause and show the world that the Professionals are acting Professionally while everyone will expect they will be pushing their cause outside of work.

Fans will return, money will flow, distractions will be eliminated and the Game will become more successful, benefiting everyone.

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Dance, colored boy.


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If by chance the players decide to do an "up yours" and kneel anyway, which I expect they will do, they will be seen as saying "up yours" to the Owners, to the Profession, to the Fans and to America herself. Their insubordination will be seen as childish and privileged rebellious behavior. It will be taken as "We are above your rules and could care less what you think."


So? If they stay in the locker room during the NA they will be booed by all the racists fans in the stands when they appear on the field anyways. May as well stick it to them face face. Man to man.


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If that is how the Players see it, instead of a call for Professionalism, then the cause is dead and the game is dead.

You see, this got out of the Players hands and has grown into a statement about our Society.

Professionalism, Patriotism, being responsible for your actions, and no one being above the rules and laws have become the focus.

I sure hope they don't blow this.

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Hey, I just had a funny thought.

Could you imagine Jabrill Peppers doing a 4 year military commitment?



rofl

He wouldn’t take an afternoon off to serve his country.






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then the cause is dead and the game is dead.


IMO Minority big league sport stars could ban together and start their own major league sports and tell whitey ceo's and owners to stick it.


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Hey, I just had a funny thought.

Could you imagine Jabrill Peppers doing a 4 year military commitment?



rofl

He wouldn’t take an afternoon off to serve his country.









Did you?


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Dance, colored boy.


Only in the end zone.

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If by chance the players decide to do an "up yours" and kneel anyway, which I expect they will do, they will be seen as saying "up yours" to the Owners, to the Profession, to the Fans and to America herself. Their insubordination will be seen as childish and privileged rebellious behavior. It will be taken as "We are above your rules and could care less what you think."


So? If they stay in the locker room during the NA they will be booed by all the racists fans in the stands when they appear on the field anyways. May as well stick it to them face face. Man to man.


They don't have to work for whitey and the racist fans I'm sure there are 1000's of jobs out there where they can protest anytime they want on company time, no one is forcing them to stay in the NFL.

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"Hey, what are ya- an audience or an oil painting?"


I'm not sure about an oil painting but I see a lot of posts that appear to be nothing but cheap caricatures.


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You see, this got out of the Players hands and has grown into a statement about our Society.

No, the players STARTED this as a statement about our society...

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Professionalism, Patriotism, being responsible for your actions, and no one being above the rules and laws have become the focus.

You got this so right... and so wrong... all at the same time. It has been about professionalism, being responsible for your actions, and not being above the rules and laws since day 1... only the players were asking for that to apply to police officers.. not on a sports field but in matters of life and death in their communities...


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I wonder if he did as well.

I love watching people who didn’t join try and defend us like we’re on their side.

If people in he military find it disrespectful, fine. But for civilians to turn the issue into something it’s not...man, it’s funny to me.

Every time 40 and vambo post I’m scratching my head in disbelief that they truly believe the nonsense coming out of their mouths.

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I do believe if you go back thru all the posts over the years on this subject, you will find I pretty much nailed its course and effects.

Test me again at your own risk.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING

Test me again at your own risk.


lmao! What is that supposed to mean?

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You will risk being wrong again.

If I remember correctly, my very first post on the subject was
"Good Cause, Bad Presentation."

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Gotcha. Sounded so serious that it just cracked me up.

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Gotcha. Sounded so serious that it just cracked me up.


No, that isn't true.
You simply run around looking to get people suspended. It is what you do.

You only thought you had a "Gotcha."

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and the game is dead.


I'll survive.
It's going to die eventually anyway, because parents are less and less inclined to subject their precious sons to CTE. If this is what kills the game off, so be it.

Besides, you're a fan of hockey anyway. At least until all those potential football stars from Brooklyn, South Chicago and East CLE start strapping on skates and picking up sticks.

At that point, you should become very, very afraid.


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The game died way before someone took a knee.

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I shall not be answering this or any other post from you in the future as I know where you are going with with with...

BOOOoooooooooooooooHOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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Gotcha. Sounded so serious that it just cracked me up.


No, that isn't true.
You simply run around looking to get people suspended. It is what you do.

You only thought you had a "Gotcha."


Wrong. Take a chill pill.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
I shall not be answering this or any other post from you in the future as I know where you are going with with with...

BOOOoooooooooooooooHOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

cry cry cry


classy as always.


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Clem demands Class in the Outhouse.

BAWhahahahahahaha rofl

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See what I mean about the caricatures?


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Clem demands Class in the Outhouse.

BAWhahahahahahaha rofl


Not an uncommon complaint on this forum.

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Yep.

Nailed it.


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