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This is an honest scenario no one will answer. Lets say, I am offered a job lets say in California making 3x my salary, that will give me and my family a better life (in turn my taxes will go from 12% to 25% ). So I pack up, throw my 3 year old child in the trunk instead of his car seat to save space, and take off, driving at high speeds. I then get pulled over, and the officer hears the child in my trunk. What do you think happens? What do you think people will say? I tend to believe those on the left would want the police officer and CYS to take the child from my custody since I was endangering the child. Anyone think different?

Actually, I think the fact that this happened under Obama is a valid consideration everyone should dwell on, to be honest.

Yes, they're going to wield that fact as a cudgel. But it's something to think on.

Maybe they should keep that criticism for people who voted for Obama and those who do not call him the Deporter in Chief.

Would the child then go to a cage?

Child endangerment has never been a civil offense.

ahhh, so you don't want to answer the question either. Child endangerment calls for the removal of the child the parents care. You have no problem with that happening to American citizens children.

Why do you want to treat Illegal Immigrants differently?

Not me ... i agree with your statements ...

The Statue of Liberty weeps bitter tears for her fellow Citizens who have been raped, murdered or maimed by the criminal element,
mixed in with the illegal immigrants, who slip through our system because our Government failed to stop and find out who is actually entering our Country.

Actually a lot of us have a lot of problems with how foster care is ran, but when you guys just shout "murderer" loudly, it's hard for you to listen to those points. But yes, in the above situation your child would be put into either a foster home or a group home, depending on the age of the child. If we're to play with your direct analogy, the three year old child would go to a foster home and not a juvenile holding center. Also, applying for asylum is not the same as stuffing your 3 year old in a car trunk.

It really isn't more than legal and illegal.

In my analogy I said what if a legal person or persons, such as you and I break a law with our children with us.

We get arrested and the children are placed in custody of children's services. They aren't kept with the parents when the parents are locked up.

I don't like this any better than anyone else, but what do you do? Ignore things because the parents had their children with them while they broke the law?

The President is right, congress needs to legislate how to handle this situation. All he is doing is enforcing the laws of the land.

Throwing your child on the top of the train at high speeds, or hiding in the back of a pickup truck in cabinets with no air, is child endangerment.

Its not asylum, a country has to meet certain requirements for asylum, nice talking point though.

Basic Grounds for Asylum or Refugee Status

To establish eligibility for asylum or refugee status, you must prove you are either the victim of past persecution or you have a well-founded fear of future persecution. In the case of past persecution, you must prove that you were persecuted in your home country or last country of residence.

The persecution must have been based on at least one of five grounds, either your:
•race
•religion
•nationality
•political opinion, or
•membership in a particular social group.

The threat against you needs to be a nationwide—you won’t be thought to have a well-founded fear of persecution if you could avoid the problem simply by moving to another part of the country.So as long as people still vacation in Mexico on the daily basis...they don't qualify.

The guy who posts YouTube tribute videos to a dumb racist creep has deep thoughts on the tears of a weeping statue.

You're describing a criminal offense and using it as analogy for a civil offense.

They're literally people applying for asylum, it's not a talking point, it's the facts of the matter. Also, wouldn't hiding in cabinets across an entire country be proof of persecution? Also how many asylum seekers are actually from Mexico? Just because they go through Mexico, doesn't make them Mexicans...

"I vacationed there, it was nice."

Just admit your an anarchist who doesn't believe in laws.

We have laws that are written to keep Americans safer than they would be otherwise.

You also don't care about the 140 BILLION dollars in damages to the US that illegal aliens cause every single year too right?

We are not here to be the welfare program for the entire freaking world. Just because people want to come here doesn't mean they are entitled or have a right to be here.

Intelligent people understand cause and effect. Many on this forum don't seem to understand that though. If you flood a country with poor and uneducated masses of people who will lie, cheat, steal, and anything else to get into the country then what will your country change into as they illegally have children here who by default now become citizens. It simple. They bankrupt the system. They destroy the culture and since your new voting class becomes poorly educated they become easy to manipulate by socialism/communism.

Democracy requires a highly educated and moral population to work. They have to be self motivated to work and earn a living. Once you flood the education system the quality of education goes down. When they grow up they become poorer and more desperate and will vote who ever offers them the most government aid. At some point people then become trapped and depended on that government aid and eventually generations grow up feeling they are entitled to those free benefits instead of thinking they must earn them.

At that point democracy dies because all your left with is socialism and communism as the state takes control of your lives for your own sake.

At some point it's going to lead to wars in the Americas because it will be cheaper and more effective to simply conquer these governments that cause us so much trouble than it is to let them flood our borders with all the poorest of their country who wreak havoc on us.

Right now we suffer 9-11 every single year thanks to illegal aliens invading our country. That is a pure, cold, hard FACT.

it absolutely is a talking point, anyone can apply for asylum, doesn't mean they qualify.

This is a practice used on every single asylum seekers... How is that a talking point?

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10.000 children were discarded by their parents and were given to the coyotes to use them as human shieids to enter into our country wheres the outrage from the LEFT.

hmmm, so if they are coming from another country, through a country that is safe enough for people to live every day and vacation, they could have easily just stayed in that country, huh?

I visit Toluca every year. I have an "adopted" family that lives in a very nice village outside of there through a best friend. We stay at his family home. Going this September for his Grandma's 100th bday. Mexico is a beautiful country, with beautiful people that love their land and love their country with more pride than any liberal I ever met. I wish you would not demean it so.

This is amazing.

You're also a white American, you could go to Uganda and be safe.

I love that his idea of danger opens with "let's say I got a job offer for 3x my salary...."

You still cannot answer why in the scenario I presented to you - calls for a man trying to better his life by moving a child for that job is warranted for his child to be taken away, yet the illegal immigrant endangering their child's life is not a big deal and does not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocqTQBk_aco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-pkSu9ORo0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTl1rKRlzo4

I'd rather take the 140 billion we waste on illegal aliens every single year and spend it on these folks.

Because Mexico is ran by cartels and it's not safe to live their if you're critical of them or the government. People from indigenous communities also face very severe racist attacks from the countries in Central America. I assumed you knew that and that's why you vacation in a suburb of Mexico City instead of the city itself.

why cause I exposed the truth, your amazing for knowing the truth and still blaming Trump ......smfh

Why should the fanatic left congress spend it on REAL AMERICANS when they despise our country its that simple

What’s a “real American”?

My friends grandma is 100 years old this sept. Shes been perfectly safe. His family has been perfectly safe their entire life. Are there bad parts, yes. There are parts in Cleveland that are not that far off either. Do those citizens get asylum? again, to be a refugee your ENTIRE country has to be effected. It is not.

U didn’t like my answer ... ....

Don’t bring up Chicago ... they can’t connect those dots ... i know from a recent experience ... ..

I thought you were leaving. Why are you still posting?

Because the Statue of Liberty weeps for those ignorant of our laws and Diam hopes to teach you.

It's almost like refugees status only apply to specific people and not everyone...

It's also like when you work with tourists, you stay safe and keep a low profile.

i sincerely hope willit isn't using his experience as a tourist in a tourist area as a basis for the overall state of the country.

I certainly hope you will read what the definition of what it takes to be granted asylum is. Mexico is not a country one can get it accepted for being from.

what?

where do you get your information from? you do realize that anybody can apply for asylum, correct?

Despite its close proximity, only about 300-800 people from Mexico are granted asylum in the U.S. each year. According to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), 667 Mexican nationals who submitted an affirmative U.S. asylum application were granted asylee status in 2015. That number is higher than the norm. For example, only 202 affirmative Mexican asylum cases were approved in 2013.

For grants of asylum in removal proceedings, only 203 out of nearly 9,000 applications in 2015 were eventually approved by immigration judges. That is a grant rate of only 2.3% Mexican asylum claims, compared with a 48% approval rate for all countries overall in the immigration courts.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-i-apply-asylum-from-mexico.html

which means that this:



is a blatant lie.

willit, you stay posting wrong information as fact, and then use that for whatever weird point you're trying to make.

U.S. asylum law applies to those who have a well-founded fear of persecution “on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.” Those fleeing generalized crime and violence in their home country do not easily fit into these categories. Nevertheless, at times U.S. immigration judges have interpreted this law so as to grant asylum to Central American migrants who can demonstrate “a well-founded fear of persecution” within the standards described above, or who qualify for protection under the UN Convention Against Torture.


https://www.wola.org/analysis/fact-sheet-united-states-immigration-central-american-asylum-seekers/

so again, i certainly hope you arent using your time as a tourist in a tourist area as basis for your opinion on the state of the country.

because as usual, you're clearly wrong.

how is staying with a Mexican family who LIVES in Mexico a tourist destination.....

Anyone can APPLY for asylum, yes. But to qualify you have to prove that your entire country is suffering persecution. The threat against you needs to be a nationwide—you won’t be thought to have a well-founded fear of persecution if you could avoid the problem simply by moving to another part of the country.

If you looked at the stats, you would see most asylum seekers are from Central America, not North America. El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala are the countries that most of these people originate from.

Maybe criticism is warranted when it's warranted and this stuff shouldn't be tribal.