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We are in the most heavily taxed group in the country.

GOP won't pay crap. Dems want more and more to give people who don't want to work more.

I don't want to get too personal here, but we support my mother-in-law and my wife's sister. We give money my sister-in-laws kids. They have more TV channels than we do, but they can't pay the freaking rent.

Additionally, we are very involved in local charities. I tried to start something for our underprivledged youths and I thought my success as a teacher would mean something, but man, dealing w/politicians is so whacked. Thus, we spend time at homeless shelters and donate as much as we can.

Again, I am not complaining...........but, I am telling you, it is a struggle to pay the monthy bills.

It would be best for you to pay your bills first, then do the other stuff. Just saying.

But,come on - over $300,000 in income, and you struggle to pay your bills? Sell a house. Tell your sis in laws kids to deal with it - you aren't paying for t.v. for them.

You can make choices

I am not saying we make the right financial choices, arch. I'm saying that we get the "blank" taxed out of us so the truly rich and those who don't want to work can feed off of our hard work. I'm saying we are not "rich." I am also saying that we are thankful that we have the ability to do what we do.

Cool. Whatever works for you.

I just know that, for me, if I were struggling to pay my own bills, I'd cut back on helping out others. That's just me.

Or, I'd sell a house.

I understand.

Oh, and I know this is going to sound really, really bad.........but, we are down to two homes.

I agree with you 100%... the political process has spent ... well since its inception... moving in the direction of protecting itself. That's why they are rarely held accountable and why congress usually has a horrible approval rating, yet a an equally huge re-election ratio.. it doesn't make sense at all.. yet it continues to happen year after year after year..

The whole system and process is rigged in their favor, yet we are counting on them to be the ones to fix it? It's no different than the economy... we are hoping that the politicians, and the wealthy folks who own them, are going to give up some of their wealth and power to take care of the little guy? Really, do we think that is going to happen?

This is why it confuses me that you are so adamantly opposed to a socialist platform.. because in a more socialist platform, (in theory) those who are "truly rich" would take on a much bigger part of the burden of supporting those "who don't want to work" and you would do less..

Now I'm not going to lie.. making over $300K a year, you are still going to get taxed out the wazoo... and I'm not advocating for total socialism... just making a statement..

Two questions:

What does your wife do?

and

How is your health?

You should read the soul of man under socialism by Oscar Wilde. I think you would enjoy his takes on charity.

Here's Zizek talking about it.

Well, communism is not exactly a monolith. I also don't think we're technologically there to have the type of communism (I'm positive the Hegel influence of that I desire. Which in a large part, is why a lot of pro-communist thinkers are socialists.

What I desire is a system like Kropotkin and Emma Goldman, where it's based on a direct democracy rather than just having a ruler for life. Essentially the goal of communism isn't to have a currency system at all, so there are no classes. A place where leisure time, time for oneself, is the highest selling point. Now the selling point is luxury goods + leisure time.

What Excl says about communism is very correct, that usually it works best on the small scale. There were many success communes in Spain during their revolution as well as parts of the Ukraine during the October Revolution.

First step is to get U.S. citizens not registered to vote, registered. The goal should be around 80% - 90% of all U.S. citizens of voting age will be headed to the voting booths. Then a true majority will appear and the choice will be clear.

I did spell out a candidate that I like. Jim Webb. He's considered a conservative Democrat. But as I also said, just by the description alone he doesn't have a chance in hell. lol

That's the problem I have no idea of how to solve. Each party has moved so far to the left and right there's no room left for common sense moderation.

I think if you looked into Jim Webb some you would really like him.

I know. That part of my post was just a general statement and not directed towards you.

I actually most people prefer politicians to not be so extreme to either the left or the right. We need to find a way to make our voices heard.