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I figured it needs its own thread because it's an important issue and it won't inundate the Mini Camp thread ... just to piggyback off the news in the Mini Camp: Mary Kay Cabot ‏Verified account @MaryKayCabot 2m2 minutes ago Updated: #Browns Josh Gordon won't be with the team for the start of camp and #NFL tells http://cleveland.com there is 'no timetable for his return'
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Here we go again.... https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/statement-from-browns-gm-john-dorsey-on-josh-gordon
Statement from Browns GM John Dorsey on Josh Gordon
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Statement from Cleveland Browns General Manager John Dorsey on Josh Gordon:
We will continue to support Josh as he receives the care needed to maintain his progress. We are going to respect his privacy while he is away from the team. Josh will be placed on the non-football illness reserve list until he is ready to return.
*Statement in reference to Gordon’s tweets this morning, see below*
A Message from John Gordon:
To my Cleveland Browns and NFL Family,
I am reaching out to you all personally and letting you know that I am not only doing great physically but mentally as well. You will notice that I will not be in Cleveland for the start of training camp. Rest assured, this, too, is a part of my overall health and treatment plan. I appreciate the awesome support I have received from teammates, friends, fans, and the Browns organization. Just like you, I am excited to start the season and I have every intention of being ready and available to join my teammates soon to help bring winning football to our fans.
With the help of the NFL, NFLPA, and the Browns’ organization, I have been able to utilize the resources available to me that will ensure my well-being on and off the field. By continuing to follow the plan set up by our medical director and his team and taking this time before this season starts, we believe it will help me maintain the progress I’ve made for not only today but for many years to come.
Thank you all for your patience, love, and support! Go Browns!
Sincerely,
Josh Gordon
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Just posted this in tailgate. Thought it wasn't pure football.
Regardless.....HERE WE GO AGAIN
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Browns announce WR Josh Gordon not at camp. Gordon: “I have every intention of being ready and available to join my teammates soon to help bring winning football to our fans.”
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Josh Gordon announces he won't be with the team for the start of training camp to focus on health and treatment plan Updated 10:28 AM; Posted 10:13 AM July 23, 2018 By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Josh Gordon announced on Twitter he'll miss the start of training camp to focus on his overall health. The Browns will continue to support Gordon, who has been working hard on his substance abuse program. Gordon will be placed on the non-football injury list as camp opens on Thursday. Rumors had swirled for the past month or so on the internet that Gordon had failed another drug test, but it's not yet known if that's the case. It's also not yet known if Gordon will be suspended indefinitely again. Gordon had been working out in Berea for most of the summer break, but had recently left the team to focus on his health and treatment program. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/07/josh_gordon_2.html#incart_river_index
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I figured it was since it's direct to our team at the moment ... whatever the refs wanna do is fine
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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j/c:
I can already feel the City of Cleveland going nuts this morning.
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Right Josh.....leaving the team RIGHT BEFORE camp.....presumably when everyone gets tested.....and everything is fine.
Right. Nothing to see here Josh.....see you in September...
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As I said in the other thread ..... the interest in Eli Rogers makes a whole lot more sense now.
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This sounds more like this was always part of a long term treatment plan than it is another incident with him.
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j/c: On #Browns Josh Gordon, the key thing to know here is that the NFL says 'there is no timetable for his return''
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This sounds more like this was always part of a long term treatment plan than it is another incident with him. Not at the opening of training camp. If this were the middle of June, then maybe. If it were early July, then maybe. 3 days before training camp opens, and with no clear reporting date? Not a chance.
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Josh Gordon truthers RN 
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The fact that the team came out and commented on the situation makes me think there isn't anything being handed down by the NFL. Normally, the team refrains from any commentary until the league makes a statement about a drug issue, right?
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Leaves the team literally at the start of camp, but it's all part of the plan guys. Come ON!
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If this was planned why is everyone finding out about it literally the day it happened?
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Admittedly, this doesn't look good. NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy on Josh Gordon, whom #Browns have placed on non-football illness list: "No timetable. We'll address the matter at the appropriate time."
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To me, this sounds like he failed yet another drug test, and he is now in "try to save my career" mode again.
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I dunno.
Look, everyone knew another incident was a huge possibility. But no suspension has been announced, and if he’s on the field week one, then what?
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It's wrap on his career if he failed another 3-4 years out of the league, not even a physical freak like Josh can overcome that.
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But then there is this: For anyone suspicious of Josh Gordon's announcement that he won't be at the start of #Browns camp, he's "absolutely not suspended," source said. Continuing to work on his issues, as Gordon said in his tweets.
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Man dude, you really do act like a jerk just as much as you complain of others doing.
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I dunno.
Look, everyone knew another incident was a huge possibility. But no suspension has been announced, and if he’s on the field week one, then what? I hope that's the case. I also hope that he has, indeed, turned his life around, and has managed to get off the drugs for good. However, you have to admit that the optics are absolutely beyond horrible on this.
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Yet.
Everything about this, the timing, the last minute nature of "taking time away fro the team", the fact that it's Josh Gordon.....everything screams he's done for the year.
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If this is another failed drug test then I'm done. I have let myself believe in him one last time, and I won't do it again.
MKC is reporting that there were rumors swirling the internet over the past month of another failed drug test, but I haven't heard anything about that. And now this?
Where there's smoke, there's fire. The kid won't play at all this season. And maybe never again.
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Yet.
Everything about this, the timing, the last minute nature of "taking time away fro the team", the fact that it's Josh Gordon.....everything screams he's done for the year. Yeah, based on the past I don't know how anyone can think this couldn't be a problem.
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just need to cut him and move on...this is a circus every year...If you can't stop being stupid to make millions of dollars, there is no hope for you
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I don't know about that. r/browns usually has all news early, real and fake, and I don't think I've seen a single thing about a failed test there.
Granted, I feel like JG is gone for the year, but here's to hoping.
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j/c:
The biggest concern for me is that the NFL league office is weighing in on this matter.
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I agree. I’m just speculating like everyone else. Typically we find out about Gordon popping hot earlier into the process, like around the announcement time that julian eldeman popped hot for PEDs.
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The #Browns have no plans to move on from Josh Gordon, who has had a great offseason and shown he's on his way to recovery, source said. As GM John Dorsey's statement said, the team continues to support Gordon. He'll be on NFI until he's deemed ready to return.
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Crap.
Ya know for once I was hoping that there would be no BS drama.
Just everybody line up and be ready to go.
This team has enough on their plate just trying to drag itself out of 1-31.
Now right before camp starts this crap hits.
Damn I hope there is nothing bad behind this.
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Aint nothing good behind it
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Oh well. He's gone and there's nothing that can be done about it now. Time to move on with what we have and leave him in the past.
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We have some naive fans. Gordon wouldn’t miss camp to avoid Hard Knocks. 1) that would be the top storyline of Hard Knocks 2) he’d be a terrible teammate, leaving his guys out there to answer for him
No clue what happened but timing is awful, no other way to describe it
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This time is the last time, no need to wait 2 years and hope he get's reinstated, if he tested positive again, it's over. What a waste.
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Would this have anything to do with the filming of Hard Knocks?
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j/c: The Josh Gordon rumors have been around for at least a month. They were true, we know now.
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