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Only thing I see is that Nassib has proven nothing in 2 years. Thomas hasn't proven much either, but he hasn't really had a chance either. Thomas looked decent late, but wasn't available much.

1. Chad Thomas might have a higher ceiling than those 2.
2. Chad Thomas can be moved to the inside with Chris Smith in nickel.dime packages perhaps
3. Nassib and Orchard were never going to be better than marginal pass rushers. they were drafted to get after the qb and neither developed into consistant edge rushers
4. Thomas has a bigger frame to play the run better.

I honestly know nothing about Chad Thomas and don't even remember seeing him all preseason

Carl Nassib 5.5 career sacks
Nate Orchard 5.0

it speaks for itself.

ANy word on Brogan?

Nassib has two years as a back up ; Orchard has three years as a back up.

No, it doesn't speak for itself, especially considering the DEs are Ogbah and Garrett. Context is everything.

Garrett missed several games last year.
the truth is Nassib might be good with investment numbers but he was a POROUS INVESTMENT by the Browns.
I.dont buy the excuse "he was a backup" etc etc. I know plenty of back ups that can produce more than 3.5 sacks
Orchard did what well??
I fail to see why some think cutting
2 "backups" off a 0 16 team is so bad for the franchise

I'm not saying either Nassib or Orchard are great, but what the hell has Chad Thomas done? He wasn't even special in college. Very inconsistent.

I truly don't remember him making one damn play this preseason. He may have made some, but I noticed Nassib and Orchard more than him. By far.

Look, I prefer Dorsey over Sashi by far.........but, I try and be fair. I'm not loving this move.

I'm bummed Simeon Thomas got grabbed.

to be honest I dont recall Thomas being
super disruptive at Miami or even this preseason.
but follow me here...I have 3 therories.

1. Dorsey felt Avery showed enough that made Nassib Orchard expendible.
2. Thomas is more versatile playing inside or out. Thomas like I said has better frame 6'5 290 to play the run
3. Im a firm believer in guys peaking skill wise in college.
they dominate in college. they hit the ceiling.
they get to the pros. no more room to gtow.
look at Antonio Brown Odell Beckham.
pretty good college stats but they didnt lead the NCAA in any category.
kinda like Corey Coleman. dominated at Baylor.
unemployed now.
he peaked in college.
i just think Nassib Orchard hit their ceiling
and Thomas has more ceiling to reach in Dorseys eyes

I'm sure they will say they kept Thomas because of his potential. I didn't see much of that this preseason. He did play last year with a sports hernia, and came to camp still recovering from the surgery the Browns suggested he get. Maybe that is why he really wasn't that good last year and maybe he is still playing himself into shape.

The more likely answer is Dorsey drafted him in the 3rd round and he doesn't want him cut because of that.

Bingo.

Saint Sashi never did that.

PS continued:

--OT Christian DiLauro — Of the Browns’ backup linemen in camp, DiLauro figured to be the one who would stick around on the practice squad.

--S Montrel Meander — The lone defensive back to stick around so far.

I believe Nassib and Meder will...Both are solid back ups.

so we have 3 PS spots left? Hoping for McKinney and Dayes

I agree, but I think that Dorsey had a plan to make use of our #1 waiver clams ... It came down to numbers. Time will tell if his gamble will pay off.

Did we keep the international guy that allowed us to have 91 roster spots? What was his name?

Has anyone seen the Giants roster?

It's bizarre.

They are primarily a 2 TE offense, and run a 4-3 defense.

They kept, after waiver claims, 3 QB, 5 RB, (including a FB) 3 TE, 5 WR, 8 OL, 3 DE, 2 DT, 5 OLB, 4 ILB, 7 CB, and 4 S.

Tigie Sankoh. He is on the Practice Squad, as the "11th" player.

Awesome. I think the NFL introducing this program is one of the better things they have done over the last several years.

The Gints run a 3-4 defense now.

I didn't know that. Shurmer ran a 4-3 when he was here.

Their roster configuration is still odd.

Dick Jauron ran the 4-3.. i always though shumer got screwed by lack of talent.

no shumer got screwed because he was a poor decision maker .

Just like NE ... I saw that they originally only kept 3 WR

I wouldn't use the word despise, but I know what you mean. It's tough on the players emotions and it's tough on us fans who are trying to keep up with who's who and who is where.

Nor do I. I suspect that McKinnon is a strong practice squad candidate. As for Meder, I guess we just feel like we have better guys.

I don't know about the "owning the roster" part. The only real eye opener for me was Meder, but it happens every year where a established player gets cut loose.

On the positive is that 4 of the 5 players play defense. I don't think it takes defensive players as long to pick up their responsibilities as it does offensive players. In the end it is simply react and get to the ball, sack the QB or cover your guy.

Yes, I know there is more to it, I am just saying it is easier than a offensive player trying to pick up the O.

It is predictable. Thomas was what, a 4th rounder? Orchard and Nassib have been around 3 years and didn't do much to distinguish themselves above and beyond roles with the team. It may work out that Thomas isn't as good or any better than those two, but he is going to get his 2-3 years.

You know it works that way. I don't like it any better than you, but it is what it is.

Yeah, we only kept one DB on the PS so far ... so McKinnon may make it back

We will know by 2 or 3 this afternoon.

also will be interesting if Orchard, Nassib, Meder, etc make a team elswhere. You'd think Nassib and Meder get a shot

And they have an office full of people scouting every possible upgrade to the team, so you have to think they see something in these guys to make a move. But sometimes you feel like they catch a single magic moment on tape and just lock in on a guy.

Jamie, Jamie, Jamie

I hope he ends up on a winning team. Nobody on our roster deserves it more than he does.

After thinking it over, none of the cuts are that surprising to me. Maybe going w 3 rb. Cutting both Dayes and Hilliard. Not sure if Dayes is PS eligible but we have Hilliard there.

I am ok w no FB, never found that position all that useful. We have that 4th TE we can use.

Orchard and Nassib, eh. At first surprised both went, but they’ve been here a bit and overall nothing to stand out. A play here and there won’t cut it now.

Meder - great guy and great story and all. But at some point one would hope the team accumulates enough talent that it takes a certain level of ability to make the team and not just being a good story.

Hope McKinnon makes it to the PS. And I suspect a QB.

McCarron trade surprising. Don’t remember a free agent signed and then traded before the season started. Could tick off the FA. Gets to pick where he signs and then dealt pretty quickly somewhere else.

Yeah, I had the same thought/question - is Dayes even practice squad eligible?

Why isn't Brogann on the practice squad? I really liked what I saw from him.

I think he still is yes