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Stuff like this happens when you're clawing your way out of the pit of dispair. Huge pit... Happy Birthday from the Browns
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The worst part is that I’m not angry.
I never believed for a second we wouldn’t blow it.
Once the refs gave them that free TD I just sat calmly waiting for the loss while everyone else at the bar went nuts.
I don’t even have a team to be mad at. I never thought I’d miss anger.
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They cut Gordon for no reason.
Yet we have [censored] kicker who singlehandedly lost us the game in dramatic style.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME.
His ass better be gone NOW. Not tomorrow, NOW. Let him walk home.
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I'm a little disappointed that the 50 yard touchdown, over the top deep pass to Calloway that was caught for a touchdown, late in the 4th quarter, could not be celebrated on a day the Browns won a game.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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I felt this was Hues best coached game.
Our offense sputtered the whole game, but i will give hue credit, he didnt make any blunders.
We jsut invent ways to lose. I honestly dont know if we will ever win another game.
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Also, I want Baker in. TT cant/wont throw more than 10 yards.
That TD bomb was an aberration.
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Gordon gone. CHECK
Kicker gone. CHECK
Njoku on notice. CHECK Catch the ball or pack your bags.
TT on notice. CHECK The dink and dunk must end now.
Hue on notice. CHECK Win on Thursday or pack your bags.
Good effort by the D!
Nice to see Calloway play!
OC you were barely average.
DC you still need to get better.
Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
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1-32-1 and the HC is still here If we lose to the Jets then that should be it for Jackson. Gonzalez needs to be let go immediately! Hard to argue against this statement. Browns need to find a reliable kicker for the next 10 years. .
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You have to have certain mental makeup to be a kicker, you can't have a panic attack the whole game . I don't fell bad for Zane you have ONE JOB kick that's it , All those missed kicks deflates a team even Extra points. Dawson was automatic and excelled at game tying or winning kicks. He need to be cut NOW no second chances. This team is only good enough to keep games close so the kicker has to be solid not a mess like Zane , that's it rant over
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Gordon gone. CHECK
Kicker gone. CHECK
Njoku on notice. CHECK Catch the ball or pack your bags.
TT on notice. CHECK The dink and dunk must end now.
Hue on notice. CHECK Win on Thursday or pack your bags.
Good effort by the D!
Nice to see Calloway play!
OC you were barely average.
DC you still need to get better.
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If Dorsey is going to change the losing culture on this team he needs to get rid of Gonzalez now! That can not be tolerated. If we lose to the Jets, then Jackson needs to go also.
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 Glad I bought my own.
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Jackson didnt miss the kicks or sign Zane. GMAFB
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Coming here makes me feel much more balanced.
Reading people blaming Hue for the loss today - insane. Blaming TT for the loss today - equally insane.
Slow start but in the end we turned things around and started to show some rhythm and progress on offense. I was not a fan of some of the play calling ... mind boggling when we were 1st and goal and a few other areas of the game. Defense looked legit against a really good team with a Great QB at the helm. I did NOT like the blitz that gave up the long pass play leading to the winning field goal. Williams gets way too predictable and we got burnt.
Penalties way down. OL better. TT better.
I felt devastated after the game - but that's just because I want to win so bad and we had it. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory on yet another Sunday. Sigh - here's to whopping up on Darnold and the Jets.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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I wonder if Zane Gonzalez gets drug tested tomorrow morning...it was that awful
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I really think its not the offense, and the guy running hte plays of the field, TT. This is exactly what Bills fans stated we signed him. He will not throw the ball downfield unless he absolutely has too.
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Recent.high draft picks arent producing when needed.
did Peppers make any plays today?
Garrett was a non factor.
but some did show up ...Galloway Ojenjobe.
Njoku is really Ricky Dudley 2.0
Todd Haley looks average as a OC.
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With kicks made the O scores 26 points. That’s pretty solid. In a week where we just lost our #1 WR. Don’t get the hate. I mean QB could improve but that’s what Baker is for when ready.
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Coming here makes me feel much more balanced.
Reading people blaming Hue for the loss today - insane. Blaming TT for the loss today - equally insane.
Slow start but in the end we turned things around and started to show some rhythm and progress on offense. I was not a fan of some of the play calling ... mind boggling when we were 1st and goal and a few other areas of the game. Defense looked legit against a really good team with a Great QB at the helm. I did NOT like the blitz that gave up the long pass play leading to the winning field goal. Williams gets way too predictable and we got burnt.
Penalties way down. OL better. TT better.
I felt devastated after the game - but that's just because I want to win so bad and we had it. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory on yet another Sunday. Sigh - here's to whopping up on Darnold and the Jets. This was one of Hues best coached games in my opinion. I put this loss strictly on the Kicker, and whoever the heck decided Zane was the guy to win the competition coming out of camp. However, I dont think Hue has a job if he loses on Thursday to the Jets.
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Lots if kickers missing today. Not making excuses, just saying, it’s been an odd day for kicking accuracy.
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Jackson didnt miss the kicks or sign Zane. GMAFB I do imagine he sat in on the final decision on who to keep or release for whatever it's worth. Sad but true that coaches, managers, GMs and what have you are the sacrificial lambs of sports. I doubt Hue goes anywhere just yet but the seat could get hot quickly!
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Coming here makes me feel much more balanced.
Reading people blaming Hue for the loss today - insane. Blaming TT for the loss today - equally insane.
Slow start but in the end we turned things around and started to show some rhythm and progress on offense. I was not a fan of some of the play calling ... mind boggling when we were 1st and goal and a few other areas of the game. Defense looked legit against a really good team with a Great QB at the helm. I did NOT like the blitz that gave up the long pass play leading to the winning field goal. Williams gets way too predictable and we got burnt.
Penalties way down. OL better. TT better.
I felt devastated after the game - but that's just because I want to win so bad and we had it. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory on yet another Sunday. Sigh - here's to whopping up on Darnold and the Jets. I'm not blaming Hue for the loss today, I am blaming him for the 1-32-1 record. If they lose to the Jets, then Hue's record will be 1-33-1. If you are going to change the culture of this team you can't keep a HC with a record like that!!! You must hire a new HC or else nothing will change.
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But for Gonzalez, the Browns are 2-0. I loved the draft pick, was encouraged by his improvement last year, and was glad when he won the battle in TC.
That said, there has never been a better example that kicking is 50% leg and 50% head. His failure is in his head, he's got the yips. And who knows when, or if, he'll get out of it. Unfortunately, he has demonstrated that he is vulnerable to the yips, and we need a PK who can forget his misses.
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Tyrod Taylor 22/30 246 1 TD 1 INT 3-12 Sacks 94.6 QB Rating All Better
Total Yards Cleveland 327 N.O. 275 Better
Penalties 4-43 Better
Things are better better but the losing continues 
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In other news Viking kicker Daniel Carlson misses 3 field goals and the final one in OT to tie the Pack.
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Play calling is really hurting our talent. Zane put all the nails in the coffin himself though.
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Kicker is a head case. Next, please.
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We realistically could be 2-0 against two super bowl contenders...thats progress!
Yet we are 0-1-1 due to poor special teams play, again. Sobering....
Not sure about you dawgs, but I am tired of watching the TT dink-n-dunk show....this offense has way too much talent!
I will be surprised if Gonzales is still on the team come Thursday...
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One thing that is in Hue's favor is that this team did not quit on him. Both weeks they were down and battled back. So can we beat the jets, yes. But the Browns have to learn how to put a complete game together.
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Lots if kickers missing today. Not making excuses, just saying, it’s been an odd day for kicking accuracy. Don't care about other kickers who missed today. I care about the one kicking for us who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn today. If you are ever going to end this freaking losing, you can't keep a kicker who can't even make a freaking PAT.
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Did you watch the game?? Because Todd did not call down the field routes until the 2nd half. So yes, TT will play it safe but Todd was calling crap in the fist half
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Did you watch the game?? Because Todd did not call down the field routes until the 2nd half. So yes, TT will play it safe but Todd was calling crap in the fist half Been a long time since both units have put together a solid game simultaneously! Meant to use your first quote about Hue...sorry.
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In other news Viking kicker Daniel Carlson misses 3 field goals and the final one in OT to tie the Pack. Don't care. I care about a team that is 1-32-1. Maybe I need to be tested for drugs!
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1-32-1 and the HC is still here  I agree. Hue is the self proclaimed CEO.....he had a big role in keeping the kicker and hiring the ST coordinator. We need to win Thursday night or Hue might not make it to the next game. At some point you need to cut bait. Sorry folks, the guy is chum. We need to move on from that. Hue will never get his record as coach of the Browns to .500
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Zane just did his post game presser and sounded like he did everything right. It was the balls fault.
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i thought in the offseason if they could have gotten Cousins they would have been a lock
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I don't understand anyone who is saying the Jets game is a must win for Hue.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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