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leadtheway #1510020 09/17/18 01:56 PM
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Another example of why ... do i even have to say the words anymore ... wink ...

Lets hope ya’all are pleasantly surprised ... thumbsup




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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
I just looked at his college stats. He was close to a 70% kicker throughout his career.

Last year he went:

0-19 no kicks attempted
20-29: 7 of 7
30-39: 3 of 4
40-49: 4-7
50+: 1 of 3

This really confuses the heck out of me. There have to be many kickers available who are better than this guy.


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I don't get it, either. Are we trying to find the next great kicking prospect? Why can't we just grab a known quantity (i.e. a vet) and move forward?


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Is someone paying you to be so freaking spiteful, or does it just come naturally?

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Didn't you recently complain about insulting others & personal attacks?


At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
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Dude we signed isn’t a stop gap ....

Zane Gonzalez - K - Free Agent

Browns waived K Zane Gonzalez.

The Browns had no choice with a kicker who was just 2-of-5 on field goal attempts so far this season. Gonzalez missed back-breaking kicks in each of the Browns' first two games. Gonzalez is a rough 17-of-25 (68 percent) as an NFL kicker. It could be a while before he gets a second chance.

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Source: Mary Kay Cabot on Twitter Sep 17 - 2:09 PM




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Answering a question w/a question is pretty lame.

You've been going out of your way to post negative posts and articles about the Browns. Some of them are just duplicative, but you post them anyway because it paints a more negative picture. Yet, if someone dared question Sashi, you threw a hissy fit and went off on them.

He's gone. He's not coming back.

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No one brings up Sashi but you.


At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
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You mentioned this on another thread, but Zane's issue is that it's between his ears. You could see it yesterday. That's a bad place to be for a kicker.

I feel bad for the kid and don't want to rag on him, but I can see why the Browns felt compelled to move on.

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The #Vikings are expected to sign K Dan Bailey, source said. He’s back.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Bailey chose them over us


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I wish we could have signed Bailey.

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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Ian Rapoport
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Ian Rapoport Retweeted Tom Pelissero

The #Vikings are expected to sign K Dan Bailey, source said. He’s back.


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The #Vikings, loaded basically everywhere, have just agreed to terms with the second most accurate kicker in NFL history. Dan Bailey waited for the right deal, now lands in Minnesota.

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Minnesota is a very good team. I watched that GB/MIN game and literally the only weakness I saw was their K


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
Bailey chose them over us
It was reported that he had declined 4 teams offers, the Browns were one of the 4. He's 30, he has his pick of teams, he will get paid well, why wouldn't he sign with a possible contender over a team that still has to learn how to win?


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Bailey chose them over us


Even as a Browns fan, I'd have chosen the Vikings too. I don't blame him or our front office for not coming to an agreement. He was the best available kicker and the best contending team needing a kicker got him. Oh well, move on.


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FAU kicker Greg Joseph breaks three records against Navy
 
 
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Florida Atlantic kicker Greg Joseph began his Owls career as a walk-on, but will finish it as a record-holder.

During FAU’s season-opening 42-19 loss to Navy on Friday night, Joseph broke three school records and tied another. He made a 24-yard field goal in the first quarter, an extra point in the second and a 54-yard field goal in the third.


 
Joseph’s 54-yarder was not only the longest in school history, but it also made him FAU’s all-time leading scorer and gave him the most made field goals in school history.

The graduate student now has 234 career points, passing Mark Myers (231) for the top spot. He also has 44 made field goals, breaking another Myers record (43). The previous school record for longest field goal was a 53-yarder, by Myers in 2003 and Mitch Anderson in 2012.


“I’ll look back on it in a couple years, but right now, I just want to win as a team,” Joseph said. “Get a ring with this team.”

Joseph’s previous career-long field goal was a 50-yarder against FIU last season.

Joseph’s lone extra point of the night tied him with Myers for most PATs made (102). Joseph has made 92 consecutive extra points.

Joseph, an American Heritage-Delray graduate, could also break Myers’ all-time record for field goal percentage. Myers made 43 of his 59 attempts (72.9 percent). Joseph has made 44 of his 63 tries (69.8 percent).

“I’m just happy I was able to do this for my family,” Joseph said. “Puts a smile on mom’s face, it makes me smile. At the end of the day, there’s bigger things than football. It makes my family happy, it brings my family together.”

Joseph also boomed four of his five kickoffs for touchbacks against Navy. Last year, 41 of his 54 kickoffs were for touchbacks.


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Welcome to Cleveland Greg...who knows, maybe you can set some records for the Browns.

This is your opportunity!


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Originally Posted By: mac
Welcome to Cleveland Greg...who knows, maybe you can set some records for the Browns.

This is your opportunity!


Records? I'd settle for a few wins.


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Kickers??

It's just me but I have low tolerance for kickers.

In good weather or domes they should be close to automatic from 40 yards in.

Extra point - 99 percent. Of course they are not responsible for missed blocks , bad snaps or poor holds.

There are tons of colleges. Plenty of guys who have been on NFL rosters. Lots of guys to try out.

They only have to kick footballs and very little else. A little physical training, no play books to learn, no heavy lifting, hardly any contact. Just kick the damn football.

It's like relief pitchers who come into the game in the seventh inning of a one or two run game and then walk guys. I lose my mind. FFFing throw strikes.

Gonzales came apart. It was written all over his face. I know it happens but it makes me crazy.

This team has worked so hard to get to this point. So much has happened. So many people have put in so many hours. Jobs on the line.

I applaud Hue for his comfort head slap to Gonzales.
I would have to been held back from hitting him with a sledge hammer.

I am really happy with this coaching staff. Hard to swallow the last two games being the result of kicking the damn football.

My sincere hope is that Haslam sees the big picture. That he recognizes where this team has come from. And he is able to show the necessary patience to keep this staff intact.

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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Ian Rapoport
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Ian Rapoport Retweeted Tom Pelissero

The #Vikings are expected to sign K Dan Bailey, source said. He’s back.


The Vikings selected Carlson in the fifth round of the 2018 NFL Draft. Ouch!

And I remembered talk of him going as high as the fourth round.


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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Another example of why ... do i even have to say the words anymore ... wink ...

Lets hope ya’all are pleasantly surprised ... thumbsup


Now maybe you understand why I cried like a baby when we got rid of Dawson. banghead


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Shouldn't be a shock

Mary Kay Cabot (@MaryKayCabot) Tweeted:
#Browns second-year kicker Zane Gonzalez has been informed by the club they're releasing him after two missed FGs and 2 missed extra points in the 21-18 loss to the #Saints https://twitter.com/MaryKayCabot/status/1041750258483699718?s=17

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Zane's response

I sucked and am not suprised that they cut me


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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
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Another example of why ... do i even have to say the words anymore ... wink ...

Lets hope ya’all are pleasantly surprised ... thumbsup


Now maybe you understand why I cried like a baby when we got rid of Dawson. banghead


Please ... his wife was hot hot hot ... who u foolin ole man ... wink

Its a joke .. Phils a class act and i’m Sure his wife is also ... u just left the door too open for me to not go through ... so its your fault ... *L* ...




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Originally Posted By: mac
Welcome to Cleveland Greg...who knows, maybe you can set some records for the Browns.

This is your opportunity!


You should probably specify what kinds of records, because our guys usually set the wrong ones.

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Thought they might keep him for one more game but I'm not surprised they cut him either. Just can't miss 2 PATs plus the FGs.

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You mentioned this on another thread, but Zane's issue is that it's between his ears. You could see it yesterday. That's a bad place to be for a kicker.

I feel bad for the kid and don't want to rag on him, but I can see why the Browns felt compelled to move on.

Some of his misses weren't even good kicks, they didn't have good rotation on them, they were wobbling like wounded ducks.. it wasn't just an accuracy issue of "pulled it a little".. they were totally mis-hit.

Then the last one was just over compensation to the right, though he struck it much better than the others.


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Why was he kicking if he was hurt? Did he not tell anyone he was hurt?

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Why was he kicking if he was hurt? Did he not tell anyone he was hurt?

If he has been kicking like that in practice, could the ST coach not TELL he was hurt?


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Why was he kicking if he was hurt? Did he not tell anyone he was hurt?

If he has been kicking like that in practice, could the ST coach not TELL he was hurt?


Even during the game. He missed two PATs. We'd have been better off going for two or letting Colquitt kick than have an injured guy back there.

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The Cleveland Browns have signed K Greg Joseph. To make room on the roster, the team waived K Zane Gonzalez.

Joseph is a 6-0, 208 pound rookie out of Florida Atlantic. Originally signed by Miami as an undrafted free agent, Joseph was waived during final roster cuts. During the preseason, he connected on all three field goal attempts and both extra point tries. He is a native of Johannesburg, South Africa.

Gonzalez, a seventh-round pick in 2017, was 17-of-25 on career field goal attempts and 28-of-31 on PATs.


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You mentioned this on another thread, but Zane's issue is that it's between his ears. You could see it yesterday. That's a bad place to be for a kicker.

I feel bad for the kid and don't want to rag on him, but I can see why the Browns felt compelled to move on.

Some of his misses weren't even good kicks, they didn't have good rotation on them, they were wobbling like wounded ducks.. it wasn't just an accuracy issue of "pulled it a little".. they were totally mis-hit.

Then the last one was just over compensation to the right, though he struck it much better than the others.


Actually it looked like he was hitting those left kicks, fat.


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Special teams have shown me nothing....I'd fine a better Special Teams Coach.....ours sucks.....GO Browns!!!


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STs has been awful thus far ... penalties, poor coverage, missed kicks


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Why was he kicking if he was hurt? Did he not tell anyone he was hurt?


Only speculation on my part, but this feels like a face-saving move by the Browns. Saying he was hurt gives him an excuse to find another job in a few weeks.

Heck, I may be 100% wrong and he truly was hurt. No idea.


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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
STs has been awful thus far ... penalties, poor coverage, missed kicks


All staples of an Amos Jones coached ST unit.

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STs has been awful thus far ... penalties, poor coverage, missed kicks


All staples of an Amos Jones coached ST unit.
sadly, that seems to be the case


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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