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We need to fire Hugh Jackson because of this.
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The Cleveland Browns have signed K Greg Joseph. To make room on the roster, the team waived K Zane Gonzalez.
Joseph is a 6-0, 208 pound rookie out of Florida Atlantic. Originally signed by Miami as an undrafted free agent, Joseph was waived during final roster cuts. During the preseason, he connected on all three field goal attempts and both extra point tries. He is a native of Johannesburg, South Africa.
Gonzalez, a seventh-round pick in 2017, was 17-of-25 on career field goal attempts and 28-of-31 on PATs.
I hope somebody kicked him in the ass on the way out the door, so he might know what a kick looks and feels like.
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Why was he kicking if he was hurt? Did he not tell anyone he was hurt? Only speculation on my part, but this feels like a face-saving move by the Browns. Saying he was hurt gives him an excuse to find another job in a few weeks. Heck, I may be 100% wrong and he truly was hurt. No idea. This seems to be the trend. Getting rid of players with fake injuries.
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Delicately put. Split his uprights I hope they did.
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We need to fire Hugh Jackson because of this. For what?
Hunter + Dart = This is the way.
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I feel bad for Zane. That shouldn't happen, but it did. He will resurface.
As a Florida fan I was hoping for Caleb Sturgis to make our team....he didn't....he now kicks for the Chargers I wish Zane well.
I also wish Joseph kicks lights out.
NFL kicker is one of the rarest jobs in all of sports. Lot's of good kickers never get the chance. You have 32 available jobs in a position group where the established guy can kick for 20 years or more. Not many jobs open on a yearly basis.
Just keep kicking and hope you find you landing place.
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I have a feeling we will have another kicker within a month or so.
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Anybody know if the new kicker has ever kicked in bad weather? Snow, Wind, Rain?
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3 jobs opened up just yesterday .... 
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Anybody know if the new kicker has ever kicked in bad weather? Snow, Wind, Rain?
Lets see ... article said he grew up in Fla ... went to college in Florida ... played in a conference consisting of almost all southern schools ... Hmmmm ... the math tells me NOT ... i c your still struggling with math ...
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Anybody know if the new kicker has ever kicked in bad weather? Snow, Wind, Rain?
Lets see ... article said he grew up in Fla ... went to college in Florida ... played in a conference consisting of almost all southern schools ... Hmmmm ... the math tells me NOT ... i c your still struggling with math ... Obviously I knew that , hence the question. That doesn't mean he never played road games in bad weather... That is why I asked. So factor that into your math. Hard to believe the Browns would sign an average warm weather kicker who has never kicked in the snow.
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I don't know where Phil played in high school, but he went to Texas for college.
Look how well he did in bad weather.
WE DON'T NEED A QB BEFORE WE GET A LINE THAT CAN PROTECT HIM
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I don't know where Phil played in high school, but he went to Texas for college.
Look how well he did in bad weather. True.
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My math was worse than yours in this case ... *L* ... U said rain and wind ... they get plenty of that in fla ...  The college season ends at turkey day or before that ... there’s hardly ever any snow that sticks by then .... and the bowls aren’t played in cold weather cities where there could be snow ... He may have never seen snow much less played in it ... i don’t imagine too many kickers have coming out of college ...
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Texas has snow, wind, rain, huricanes, tornados. That isn't exactly a weather friendly state.
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I was just going to come on and say
This is the perfect opportunity for the Browns to stand by their player and NOT go out and quickly cut the kicker for missing a few kicks on a bad day.
What a way to say, we aren't going to overreact to the day to day politics of adversity, but we are going to stick with our team and, though maybe bring in some guys for tryouts, not just cut bait on Zane.
Given 16 hours to think of it, Zane Gonzalez is probably your best bet going forward on finding a guy who is going to right the ship and come out of this storm more reliable for it.
But I read, above, the Browns have waived Zane Gonzalez.
I was also going to consider changing my signature to
(It's been 3 days since the Browns have announced they are cutting a veteran player from their 53 man roster, ...) Josh Gordon.
But it appears with Zane Gonzalez.
It has Been ZERO DAYS since the Browns have announced they are cutting a veteran player from their 53 man roster,.
Will they ever learn?
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Texas has snow, wind, rain, huricanes, tornados. That isn't exactly a weather friendly state. Since when does Texas have snow? ... u still drunk ... *L* ... I lived there for two years ... one day the 6 year old daughter of the girl i was dating came in screaming ... ITS SNOWING ITS SNOWING ... i walked out and acted all excited thinking ... i can barely see the flakes ... *L* ... Wind, rain, hurricanes and tornadoes ... yup ... they dont usually play in tornadoes or hurricanes ... there not real bright in Texas but they’ve learned over the years to not play football in hurricanes or tornadoes ...
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I find it odd that so many are in favor of the cutting of Zane............for missing a few kicks............but defend a coach that is 1-31-1 over the last 2 plus seasons. Just seems odd to me.
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Google could be your friend instead of ignorance.
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I don't see the correlation, and I'm not going to get into a fire Hue debate... But we couldn't count on Zane to make kicks, as he showed on several occasions, so it's buh-bye.
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I see him struggling,just a haunch...But I hope I'm wrong. We will have to wait and see how he does, I just have a feeling this will be another one of those years where we go through a couple of kickers.
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Google could be your friend instead of ignorance.  ... Ya .. i’ll Take googles word over me having lived there for two years and the fact I couldn’t even see the snow and they were freaking out thinking it was the greatest thing ever ... ... But hey .... if googles the be all end all ... may god help u ... WOW ... have a good one Eve ...
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I don't see the correlation, and I'm kept going to get into a fire Hue debate... But we couldn't count on Zane to make kicks, as he showed on several occasions, so it's buh-bye. I started to type out the same thing and decided it wasn’t worth it ... i see ZERO CORRELATION in the two scenarios ... I dont get into it with the haters ... good luck and have fun ...
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We just cut a kicker who nailed 82% of his kicks in college for a guy who only made 69% of his college kicks, including being 50% over 40, and doesn't appear to have made a regular season kick because everything about him on the internet basically extends to losing every kicking competition he's been in.
You suit up in four days.
Sounds rational. Eh. Whatever. Welcome to the team.
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Google could be your friend instead of ignorance. ... Ya .. i’ll Take googles word over me having lived there for two years and the fact I couldn’t even see the snow and they were freaking out thinking it was the greatest thing ever ... ... But hey .... if googles the be all end all ... may god help u ... WOW ... have a good one Eve ... Sure looks like snow in Texas to me. LinkMaybe you should have left your basement once in a while if you lived there. Pretty sure they aren't seeing that in Florida.
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3 jobs opened up just yesterday .... True, but that is pretty rare. Go with the flow bro. You know as well as I do that good kickers stick around 20-25 years.
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They don’t have basements in Texas sweetheart ... Go to your bible and google that honey ... U get the last word ... cause if i read your response and its as off base as your last one i will have to point out how wrong it is ... Night eve .. enjoy ...
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Why was he kicking if he was hurt? Did he not tell anyone he was hurt? Only speculation on my part, but this feels like a face-saving move by the Browns. Saying he was hurt gives him an excuse to find another job in a few weeks. Heck, I may be 100% wrong and he truly was hurt. No idea. This seems to be the trend. Getting rid of players with fake injuries. Strikes me more as a play by him or his agent to try to wrangle an injury settlement or get on IR instead of being out of work completely.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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3 jobs opened up just yesterday .... True, but that is pretty rare. Go with the flow bro. You know as well as I do that good kickers stick around 20-25 years. Just curious .... can u verify that with google please .... ....
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Since when does Texas have snow?
Damned near every single year, actually. 
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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 Ok. Here's the last word. Texas A&M Stadium full of snow. Oh Snap.
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Since when does Texas have snow?
Damned near every single year, actually. Damm ... and i went there without my shovel ... no wonder what they called me a dumb ass yankee ... *L* ...
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Since when does Texas have snow?
Damned near every single year, actually. Damm ... and i went there without my shovel ... no wonder what they called me a dumb ass yankee ... *L* ... I wasn't because you didn;t have a shovel.....kidding
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Are you sure that the Browns knew he was hurt? Are you sure this isn't some BS made up by his agent? Are you sure he didn't hurt it during the game and didn't tell anyone?
What are you sure of?
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We need to fire Hugh Jackson because of this. Who the hell is Hugh Jackson and why do you want him fired "because of this?"
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Are you sure that the Browns knew he was hurt? Are you sure this isn't some BS made up by his agent? Are you sure he didn't hurt it during the game and didn't tell anyone?
What are you sure of? At this point I don't think anybody can be sure of anything with Josh. Probably why we moved on.
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We need to fire Hugh Jackson because of this. Who the hell is Hugh Jackson and why do you want him fired "because of this?" because we need another Wolverine movie.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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All i’m Sure of is Zane is gone ... josh is gone ....
Time to move on ... we gots us a game Thursday ...
LETS GOOOOOooooooooooo ....
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