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Another point to the guys saying its about the money...it not just the money. its the status. Being the highest paid means you are the best player, typically. These are GLADIATORS of our time. They are ULTRA competitive with each other. So if Gurley gets deal A, then the guy who thinks he is better than Gurley is naturally going to want more to show he is worth more. Its a game.
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I just think that sometimes people lose sight of who a players "real team" is. Their real team is exactly the same as ours.
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I agree with the numbers and with his talent. I just don't think it shows good thinking myself trying to figure his end game. I think head case because of money lost and games not played, assume because of ego and its demands. Maybe he is not and I am wrong. But I don't see a team guy contributing now.
It's a business. Bell is thinking that if he plays this year for 14 mil or whatever that number is and gets a career ending injury, he will lose more in the long run that just this years salary. Hes playing the long game. Let think this way. He signs his tender for 15 million or whatever it is, gets hurt and never earns another dollar again. ORRRRR, he can sit out and stay healthy, and earn 10-12 million a year guaranteed for the next 5 years.......its math bro. But he can't do that. He has to be active for at least 6 games in order to accrued a year of service. He'll pass up roughly $10 million in salary this year, that he will almost certainly never make up. He could get hurt in week 16, ruining his free agency plans. In fact, he might be more likely to be injured since he has had no football activities at all. He could refuse to play, but the Steelers will then suspend him, and he will lose his year of service, and will then not be a free agent. While I am glad he didn't, he should have played this year, put on a show, and made a fortune next off-season. I have to think that many teams look for team first guys. Bell certainly does not appear to be one. He is an immense talent, though appears to be replaceable in Pittsburgh. Last year, Bell had 1291 yards rushing, a 4.0 yard/rush average, and 9 TD. He had 3 runs of 20+ yards. Thus far, Conner had 213 yards rushing, (on pace for 1136 yards) 3 TD, and 2 runs of 20+ yards already. Bell had 85 catches for 655 yards, 7.7 yards/catch, and 2 TD, with 5 catches of 20+ yards. Thus far, Conner has 15 catches for an average of 9.3 yards/catch, 1 catch of 20+ yards, and no TD catches yet. Stats may not tell the whole story, but thus far, Conner appears to be a solid replacement for Bell. The team doesn't seem to miss him at all.
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6 games or 16 games, which has the better chance of injury?
Bell had 400+ touches last year, do you not think that effects a player?
And do you not think that the Steelers, knowing he was out the door, were not going to run him into the ground this year if they could?
Bell is doing everything he is allowed to do, based on the NEGOTIATION of the NFL and Players Union. He is not doing a single thing WRONG in this case. If you don't agree with what he is doing, who are you to tell another man what he should or should not do with his life and a career?
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Thus far, Conner had 213 yards rushing, (on pace for 1136 yards) 3 TD, and 2 runs of 20+ yards already. You realize Conner had 136 of those yards in week 1 right? Hes a bum, please do not try to say they are comparable in talent, or any football case you make from here on out will be suspect. Stats may not tell the whole story, but thus far, Conner appears to be a solid replacement for Bell. The team doesn't seem to miss him at all. haha, yep, just lost all credibility.
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The problem is this:
How many times does he have to put on a show before they pay up?
While I don’t like how bell played his o line, lets be clear here: he’s already proven over and over he’s the best back in the league. He’s already put up monster numbers in consecutive seasons.
If he goes out there and gets overused and injured then that payday you’re talking about never comes.
The reality is that bell should’ve been got paid, and the Steelers are playing games.
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He overvalued himself ... the stilers aren’t MORONS ... He’s been suspended TWICE and hes oft injured... Hes gonna be 27 next year ... that’s OLD for a RB ... He rolled the dice ... we’ll see what happens ... Hes not the best back in football anymore ... you’d take him over gurley ...  ... will Conners not a bum ... not even close ... Hes no bell ... but hes no bum either ... U could dump a half dozen backs into that O right now and get as good or better results than u could with Bell .. They all helped each oth3r be better ... and Bell is/was the EASIEST piece to replace .... He rolled the dice ... we’ll see how it works out ... I could really care less ... unless we sign him ... whoever signs him is making a HUGE MISTAKE in my book ... Especially if what u said earlier was true and he’s gained some weight ... that goes to DESIRE to play the game .... if what u said is true ... thats a HUGE RED FLAG to potential long term suitors ...
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I think it’s certainly debatable who is better between him and gurley.
I never claimed Conner is a bum, but he isn’t Bell, and it ain’t close.
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Conners not a bum ... not even close ... Bum was mean, hes a solid BACKUP. But no way he is even near the talent bell is. Heck, he would be 4th string on our roster......just saying. U could dump a half dozen backs into that O right now and get as good or better results than u could with Bell .. ehhhhhh, they haven't been running the ball great. Take away the game against us, and he has looked below average. Well below. whoever signs him is making a HUGE MISTAKE in my book ... I am not saying it is not...I am saying that 1. He is his own man, and someone trying to tell a grown ass man what to do, or how to do it is ludicrous and 2. he is doing everything he is able to do under the collective bargaining agreement. he is not doing anything wrong here.
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They ain’t been running the ball dude .... Against KC they were down 21 - 0 after three possessions .... he had like 7 carries that game .... Against TB they got down and then went up ... he only got 15 carries and had over 60 yarders ... 4 and change average ... thats not simply a back up ... there’s more than a few teams that would like to have him right about now ... And i’d take him over Chubb in a HEARTBEAT ... I liked Chubb but he looks like he’s playing with a piano on his back .... his speed isn’t translating like i thought it would ... hope i’m Wrong ... but so far ... not impressed ... Conner could start on more than a handful of teams and they’d be grateful .... PS. Did u miss the part about the MISSING OLMAN so far this year .... 
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j/c As a side note, Bell was the first player drafted in all 3 of my fantasy leagues. When it was clear Bell wasn't going to play in game 1, and based on how impressive Conner had been in TC, I picked him up in all 3. Now I have the starting Pitt RB and the guys who drafted Bell #1 are scrambling. 
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It's also possible Bell is suffering from some kind of bone or muscle fatigue and is just using this as a show to cover that up so he can have time off to heal. If not then he is just being stupid.
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It's also possible Bell is suffering from some kind of bone or muscle fatigue and is just using this as a show to cover that up so he can have time off to heal. If not then he is just being stupid. He's going to get way more guaranteed money in the off-season than he was offered by the Steelers. That's the goal. He needs to not get hurt in order to get that money. Playing the least amount of games means less chance of injury.
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Appearantly the Stilers have shifted gears ...
Le'Veon Bell - RB - Steelers
NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Steelers are "actively shopping" holdout RB Le'Veon Bell.
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter Sep 30 - 8:23 AM
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Appearantly the Stilers have shifted gears ...
Le'Veon Bell - RB - Steelers
NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Steelers are "actively shopping" holdout RB Le'Veon Bell.
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter Sep 30 - 8:23 AM
I would be "actively shopping" him too.
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Not exactly a blue light special announcement.
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This has dragged on way longer than I thought it would
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I'm just happy to have him out of the division. The guy is a kick ass running back. In his five seasons, he's accounted for 8,000 total yards.
I like James Conner, but he's not Le'Veon Bell.
It's happening. The Steelers are starting to become a team that we don't need to be scared on anymore.
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Le'Veon Bell - RB - Steelers
NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Steelers are "actively shopping" holdout RB Le'Veon Bell.
Initially the Steelers were just "listening" on offers for Bell, but now they're the ones making calls. Per Rapsheet, the Steelers are looking for at least a second-round pick and a "good player" in exchange for Bell. That's a high asking price for a rental, especially considering Bell can't negotiate an extension until after the season. James Conner will continue to serve as Pittsburgh's workhorse with Bell MIA.
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I just don't see how another team is going to give up that much for him right now .. but we'll see, they have a few weeks
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Why is Le'Veon Bell holding out?
Earl Thomas might know why. . .
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Why is Le'Veon Bell holding out?
Earl Thomas might know why. . . good point
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Ya ... cause iif Bell played this year and got hurt NO ONE WOULD GIVE HIM ANY GAURANTEED MONEY ...  ... If Thomas is a FA next year .... we’ll see how much it affects his market ... and what if he comes back and on his first carry blows his knee out .... then what .. he’s out 7.7 mill to 8.5 mill and his worst fear has been realized ... The mans rolling the dice ... we’ll see how it works out for him ... What we’ll never know is weather he would have gotten hurt if he played this entire year ... what we also know is he’s gonna be out 8 mill give or take ...
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No reason to make a high risk investment like that. Earl Thomas and Le'Veon Bell are in the right.
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Appearantly the Stilers have shifted gears ...
Le'Veon Bell - RB - Steelers
NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Steelers are "actively shopping" holdout RB Le'Veon Bell.
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter Sep 30 - 8:23 AM
Hey, Conner had another wonder game. . . . he has like 90 yards in the last 3 games. he may not be a bum, but hes hot garbage.
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Did u watch? ... i mean on more than one carry he was met at the handoff point by not one but sometimes multiple rats ... And 3 weeks ago ... they got down 21 - 0 and didnt run the ball ... The last two weeks ... for no reason at all ... they didnt run the ball ... This is now ben’s O ... he made it pass happy ... imagine that ... *L* ... Just wondering .. did DeCastro and/or Gilbert play last night ... I KNOW NIETHER OF THEM DID LAST WEEK vs Tampa ... DeCastro missed game 2 also ... Unless Bell plays D ... he’s not the reason for any of this ... And u know it dawg ... ... Bells out over 3.4 million now ... thats one thing we do know ... Did he really gain a bunch of weight or were u just breakin chops when u said that? ... if he did .. it makes me wonder if he’s serious about playing again ... Was that legite? ...
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Connor is a JAG in that offense. His patience behind the LoS just makes him look like a cheaper Le'Veon.
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The Steelers were hell bent on getting Conner a big day against us ... and since then they don't use him much to be honest (or can't).
They have some issues right now .. but we'll see if they can get them corrected quickly
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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He really loves these come back games against the Browns, huh.
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He really loves these come back games against the Browns, huh. that game will be hindering more on our secondary IMO. We gotta improve without Mitchell
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Is he definitely reporting to the team?
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This makes NO SENSE ...
If he’s worried about getting hurt ... why don’t he wait til game 10 or 11 witch is the latest he can report and still get credit to become a FA ...
Must be #PuffPuffPass logic ... *L* ...
Will said in a thread he’s gained some weight ... last night a bud of mine said he heard it also ...
WILL???? ... is that legite bro? ...
If he’s overweight and out of shape ... that’d be interesting to say the least ...
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Cuz he's still a Steelers fan and they're sucking. Good move all around if he doesn't get hurt.
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U use the same #PuffPuffPass logic as him ... Any NON #PuffPuffPassers have any thoughts on how this makes sense ... *L* ... U left the door wide open bro ... i couldn’t not walk through it ... it was calling me ... 
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You also think that Earl Thomas won't be getting a pay cut now that he's injured...
Doesn't make sense for him to hold out till week 10 or 11. The Steelers could be out of play off contention by then.
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U think he’s the reason there losing right now ... ... Ok then ... PS ... please explain to me why Thomas is going to lose money on his contract next year? ... LOVE TO HEAR THAT ONE ... PSS. He got paid his FULL SALARY THIS YEAR ... and we’ll see if he gets paid next year ...
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U think he’s the reason there losing right now ... ... Ok then ... PS ... please explain to me why Thomas is going to lose money on his contract next year? ... LOVE TO HEAR THAT ONE ... PSS. He got paid his FULL SALARY THIS YEAR ... and we’ll see if he gets paid next year ... Thomas should be 100% healthy by the super bowl from what i’ve read ... So how would the broken leg negatively affect his salary next year? .... U know what ... this isn’t worth it ... i have zero stake in this other than disagreeing with pretty much the entire board ... not worth the argument .... U WIN ... bells a GENIUS ... smart move ... Enjoy dawg ...
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