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We don't need ethanol, we need more refineries.

Sadly, there are so many factors involved in oil prices.
Iranian sanctions affecting Iran's oil exports, Venezuela's turmoil affecting their production and export, Major hurricanes in the US stopping production on off-shore rigs, and creating large demand in hit areas during recovery.

There are 2 ways to lower the cost.....

Lower demand or increase domestic supply.

I don't see us lowering demand with the amount of people we have in the US, and the high cost of living inside cities and metropolitan areas. More and more people work farther away from work than ever before in my opinion, and public transportation depending on where you live is a hassle.

We have electric cars and newer tech coming out, but still to this point, there is not a VIABLE option on the market yet to replace the combustion engine. And the cost of said vehicles are prohibitive to many families - other than a few like the prius, most of those types of vehicles are in the 30k + range if not much more. Even the prius STARTS at about 17K new for a base model. You can get a brand new Prius for 17K or a Jeep Compass for 19, which is the better vehicle for a family? Or one that lives with seasons?

Realistically speaking, the only way in the short term to lower prices is to increase domestic supply IMO.

You just said you could drive one way for one price over $3 and the other way for a price of $2.65... but I'm inventing stories for my narrative? My narrative doesn't pay for my gas, I do. I worry about you bro.

I can.

I am about 5 minutes from Steubenville Oh and about 5 min from Paris, PA. If you look at the map, there is a sliver of WV settled in between Oh and Pa, that's me

I live in the only City in the Us that borders two states

5 min to the right is 50 cents tax, 5 min to the left is 28 cents tax

The GOP doesn’t care about the price of gas, healthcare, or their gov’t spending. That’s on the back burner for the WH.

Hell we don’t even know where our troops are until they turn up dead in some s-hole country Trump sent them into.

wow I didn't think you could top the 25% lie, but here you go!

First - The GOP or WH doesn't control the price of gasoline, as stated over and over and over again on this very thread.

Second - Do you really want to compare war numbers and body count of this admin and the last?

Oh please! Obama never met a tax he didn't like.

How many times did Obama sign a tax increase?

Full List of Obama Tax Hikes

1. A 156 percent increase in the federal excise tax on tobacco: On February 4, 2009, just sixteen days into his Administration, Obama signed into law a 156 percent increase in the federal excise tax on tobacco, a hike of 61 cents per pack. The median income of smokers is just over $36,000 per year.

2. Obamacare Individual Mandate Excise Tax (takes effect in Jan 2014): Starting in 2014, anyone not buying “qualifying” health insurance – as defined by Obama-appointed HHS bureaucrats -- must pay an income surtax according to the higher of the following:

2014

1% AGI/$95

1% AGI/$190

1% AGI/$285

2015

2% AGI/$325

2% AGI/$650

2% AGI/$975

2016 +

2.5% AGI/$695

2.5% AGI/$1390

2.5% AGI/$2085

The Congressional Budget Office recently estimated that six million American families will be liable for the tax, and as Americans for Tax Reform has pointed out, 100 percent of Americans filing a tax return (140 million filers) will be forced to submit paperwork to the IRS showing they had “qualifying” health insurance for every month of the tax year. Bill: PPACA; Page: 317-337)

3. Obamacare Employer Mandate Tax (takes effect Jan. 2014): If an employer does not offer health coverage, and at least one employee qualifies for a health tax credit, the employer must pay an additional non-deductible tax of $2000 for all full-time employees. Applies to all employers with 50 or more employees. If any employee actually receives coverage through the exchange, the penalty on the employer for that employee rises to $3000. If the employer requires a waiting period to enroll in coverage of 30-60 days, there is a $400 tax per employee ($600 if the period is 60 days or longer). Bill: PPACA; Page: 345-346

Combined score of individual and employer mandate tax penalty: $65 billion/10 years

4. Obamacare Surtax on Investment Income (Tax hike of $123 billion/takes effect Jan. 2013): Creation of a new, 3.8 percent surtax on investment income earned in households making at least $250,000 ($200,000 single). This would result in the following top tax rates on investment income: Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 87-93

Capital Gains

Dividends

Other*

2011-2012

15%

15%

35%

2013+ (current law)

23.8%

43.4%

43.4%

2013+ (Obama budget)

23.8%

23.8%

43.4%


*Other unearned income includes (for surtax purposes) gross income from interest, annuities, royalties, net rents, and passive income in partnerships and Subchapter-S corporations. It does not include municipal bond interest or life insurance proceeds, since those do not add to gross income. It does not include active trade or business income, fair market value sales of ownership in pass-through entities, or distributions from retirement plans. The 3.8% surtax does not apply to non-resident aliens.

5. Obamacare Excise Tax on Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans (Tax hike of $32 bil/takes effect Jan. 2018): Starting in 2018, new 40 percent excise tax on “Cadillac” health insurance plans ($10,200 single/$27,500 family). Higher threshold ($11,500 single/$29,450 family) for early retirees and high-risk professions. CPI +1 percentage point indexed. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,941-1,956

6. Obamacare Hike in Medicare Payroll Tax (Tax hike of $86.8 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013): Current law and changes:





First $200,000
($250,000 Married)
Employer/Employee

All Remaining Wages
Employer/Employee

Current Law

1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed

1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed

Obamacare Tax Hike

1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed

1.45%/2.35%
3.8% self-employed


Bill: PPACA, Reconciliation Act; Page: 2000-2003; 87-93

7. Obamacare Medicine Cabinet Tax (Tax hike of $5 bil/took effect Jan. 2011): Americans are no longer able to use health savings account (HSA), flexible spending account (FSA), or health reimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines (except insulin). Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,957-1,959

8. Obamacare HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike (Tax hike of $1.4 bil/took effect Jan. 2011): Increases additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAs and other tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,959

9. Obamacare Flexible Spending Account Cap – aka “Special Needs Kids Tax” (Tax hike of $13 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013): Imposes cap on FSAs of $2500 (currently unlimited). Indexed to inflation after 2013. There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,388-2,389

10. Obamacare Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers (Tax hike of $20 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013): Medical device manufacturers 409,000 people in 12,000 plants across the country. This law imposes a new 2.3 percent excise tax on total sales, even if the respective company does not earn a profit. Exempts items retailing for <$100. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,980-1,986

11. Obamacare "Haircut" for Medical Itemized Deduction from 7.5% to 10% of AGI (Tax hike of $15.2 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013): Currently, those facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction for medical expenses to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). The new provision imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. Waived for 65+ taxpayers in 2013-2016 only. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,994-1,995

12. Obamacare Tax on Indoor Tanning Services (Tax hike of $2.7 billion/took effect July 2010): New 10 percent excise tax on Americans using indoor tanning salons. Making matters worse: According to a Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration report, the Obama IRS didn’t bother to issue compliance guidelines until three quarterly filing deadlines had passed: “By the time [IRS] notices were issued, tanning excise tax returns had been due for three quarters." Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,397-2,399

13. Obamacare elimination of tax deduction for employer-provided retirement Rx drug coverage in coordination with Medicare Part D (Tax hike of $4.5 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013) Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,994

14. Obamacare Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Hike (Tax hike of $0.4 bil/took effect Jan. 1 2010): The special tax deduction in current law for Blue Cross/Blue Shield companies would only be allowed if 85 percent or more of premium revenues are spent on clinical services. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,004

15. Obamacare Excise Tax on Charitable Hospitals (Min$/took effect immediately): $50,000 per hospital if they fail to meet new "community health assessment needs," "financial assistance," and "billing and collection" rules set by Obama-appointed HHS bureaucrats. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,961-1,971

16. Obamacare Tax on Innovator Drug Companies (Tax hike of $22.2 bil/took effect Jan. 2010): $2.3 billion annual tax on the industry imposed relative to share of sales made that year. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,971-1,980

17. Obamacare Tax on Health Insurers (Tax hike of $60.1 bil/takes effect Jan. 2014): Annual tax on the industry imposed relative to health insurance premiums collected that year. Phases in gradually until 2018. Fully-imposed on firms with $50 million in profits. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,986-1,993

18. Obamacare $500,000 Annual Executive Compensation Limit for Health Insurance Executives (Tax hike of $0.6 bil/takes effect Jan 2013). Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,995-2,000

19. Obamacare Employer Reporting of Insurance on W-2 ($min/takes effect Jan. 2012): Preamble to taxing health benefits on individual tax returns. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,957

20. Obamacare “Black liquor” tax hike (Tax hike of $23.6 billion/took effect immediately). This is a tax increase on a type of bio-fuel. Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 105

21. Obamacare Codification of the “economic substance doctrine” (Tax hike of $4.5 billion/took effect immediately). This provision allows the IRS to disallow completely-legal tax deductions and other legal tax-minimizing plans just because the IRS deems that the action lacks “substance” and is merely intended to reduce taxes owed. Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 108-113

https://www.atr.org/full-list-ACA-tax-hikes-a6996

Thanks 40, maybe that will shut Pit up for a while. Now lets hear from OCD,Swish PDF ( if he's not out fighting Racism ) Charger and of course that guy from Portland. If I missed any other Libs I'm sorry but unlike most of them I have to get up and go to work tomorrow.

21 times in 8 years and most have to do with ACA? Not bad, Obama.

I love when DawgDuty talks about having a job like it’s some kind of Sysiphean undertaking that takes up all of his brain power.

Every other post of his is some form of “I ring up people’s lotto tickets at the gas station, which validates my opinions”

Dumpster diving for cans to take to the recycling center is a full time job. Leave poor DogDoodie alone.
That’s all I have time for as a response as it’s 5:40am and I have to get up for my career of caring for my community’s terminally ill.

Wow, lot of "tolerant" people here claiming moral high grounds ALOT are bashing a guy and making fun of where he works. huh, go figure.

Some of you are despicable.

He needs to keep my name out of his mouth then.

I don't think bashing someone for trying to provide for themselves and their family is a place anyone should go. Agree to disagree if you must. We do not agree on a lot of things politically, but you were one I held to a higher standard than others. That just fell some.

We're not making fun of where he works, we're mocking his whole shtick where every time he gets embarrassed or shown to be clueless about any given topic, he tries to brush it off with something along the lines of "well, unlike you, I have a job and don't have time for stuff like learning how to use Google".

Whats your job PDF? Doing the dishes for Mom once in a while doesn't count. Snowflake

What ever his job is, he managed to learn how to use Google at the same time. lol

I said before Pit, I can use Google but you're right I'm not very computer literate. If I was really worried about it they have classes at the Library. I might take one this winter. I don't like PDF and I'm not worried what he thinks.

Hey, I just try to find the humor in a lot of this. Sometimes I take on a subject seriously. But there are only so many people in this forum you can carry on a serious discussion with.

I would teach you bro, but it would be too much like having a job!

Thanks OCD and I used to think you were a arrogant, self rightist elitist.And if you don't want a job that fine,

Anytime you have a question about computers just PM me, I'm always glad to help.

And you thinking I'm an elitist is a gas! I believe in educating yourself to better yourself bro. I used to have money and was in the rat race chasing more; I've lost more than most people will ever make. But between crappy health and a change in what I see as important, I'm not going to be making the sacrifices necessary to chase big money anymore.

I found out that I can live on much less than I used to and be just as happy or happier without all the headaches and constant need to kill myself working.

I've had a few JOBS in my life, but I usually worked my own businesses. Since I learned how to program I've lived in the gig economy. I might work on my own thing or somebody else's thing. But where guys working a job show up to trade hours of work for dollars, I work the hours up front to trade the product of the work for dollars. The big difference is I can sell my digital product over and over and over again. Then I can sell upgrades, addons, alterations, annual licenses, per user fees, and service/help desk agreements to the people that by that product because I have no competitors selling my product.

That doesn't make me elitist, just smart. Doesn't make me rich just means I make my money different than most. Has nothing to do with being a lib or con.

Sounds like a pretty good gig. I also quit chasing big money. I now work as a consultant/contractor. I'm lucky enough to work as much or as little as I want.

and





Disgraceful!

Don't pick sides Vers. Duty started with this unsolicited attack:



You give crap you get crap around here.

I agree there is a lot of crap.

I'm just saying that your side is far meaner. Y'all make my skin crawl.

Well you'll be happy to know I'm trying to turn a new leaf. I'm sick of all the BS too. It's draining.

That would be great. This forum is toxic. Hell, I just bad-mouthed several of you and my intent was to stop the bad-mouthing. Instead, I resorted to the same BS!

I don't know man...........this could be such a great forum. We could discuss things logically and rationally. We could lay down our intellectual prowess.

Instead, it's all about sides and childish insults.

Sit down Vers. Take a breath and prepare yourself...

I agree.

Cute clip 40. Irrelevant and not helpful, but cute nonetheless.

Speaking of childish insults...

I try my best to be good but sometimes...

I don't see how anyone can listen to Trump mock a disabled reporter, name call every opponent he's ever faced along with attacking anyone who disagrees with and then say this. It sounds like you expect more from posters on a message board than you do from the POTUS.

Yeah, the liberals on this board are so much meaner than the KKK and White sumpremicasts that support Trump. GMAFB.

I understand that both sides are mean and nasty, but to try to say one side is meaner than the other is pure BS.