I have a feeling that the running game is going to be more of a focal point now.
He called the 4th preseason game...how was that, don't think cause he's the RB coach that is why our focus will be there, he was a big school college QB, Alabama. and he is a from the Arians tree known for his passing game.
In that 4th game we ran the ball 31 times not counting a scramble by Baker. And we threw 30 passes. So he definitely showed a balanced offense. We also scored 35 points I know no starters playing. But still 20, 17 and 5 points in the games called by Haley, 35 by the game called from Kitchens.
So who knows???
Good luck Baker and good to see the name Lincoln Riley mentioned...he will say NO while his season is still going on, we will see after the college season is done!
Please lets get Riley!
Balance is what I want to see, because if we have balance, that helps put the breaks on all of the blitzing (when you pop a big run.) like teams have been doing to us, which puts more pressure on Baker and our OL.
Maybe he will tweek the 'concepts' within our offense scheme to a more aggressive posture as apposed to being a punching bag ... That is my hope.
Every down I would have Landry at wr 2, callaway wr1(he has the needed speed), Njouku at te 1. That would be my base.
Then I either add seth at te2 and have duke in at HB and run it like a 5 we set with QB able to pull Seth out to block as needed.
Or I put Seth and chubbs in with seth playing a FB type of roll.
Or I put chubb and Duke both in with one of them at FB and the other at HB. They can take turns blocking to throw the defense off or do both go wide to catch.
I personally like the idea of a FB kept behind to save Mayfields but from all these rushers who like to come in unblocked.
MY SECRET WEAPON: Joel Bitonio as HB. He had that one fumble recovery and when he ran the ball he ran it with huge power. I thought he looked awe inspiring!
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MY SECRET WEAPON: Joel Bitonio as HB. He had that one fumble recovery and when he ran the ball he ran it with huge power. I thought he looked awe inspiring!
@TonyGrossi Following Following @TonyGrossi More Browns interim HC Gregg Williams, when asked if it was his call on naming Freddie Kitchens offensive coordinator: “That was done. No. That was done. That was not me. That was everybody else.”
@TonyGrossi Following Following @TonyGrossi More Browns interim HC Gregg Williams, when asked if it was his call on naming Freddie Kitchens offensive coordinator: “That was done. No. That was done. That was not me. That was everybody else.”
...when explaining the timeline of how everything went down from his point of view. Good job Tony, we would expect nothing less.
I get that people hate Grossi. I do, too. But, he posted a quote from Williams. What the hell is wrong w/that?
I think the quote is fairly significant. Much more so than just dismissing it and blaming the messenger.
Do you think it's a good idea to not even speak to your new head coach about who is going to become the offensive coordinator?
I do .... however, I would guess that they didn't want someone coming in from the outside and changing everything from under Baker, and there weren't a ton of other options on the team.
I am unsure why Saunders wasn't looked at, if he wasn't. Perhaps they really want to see what they have in Kitchens. I think he's a really bright offensive mind, and that he is overdue for a coordinator spot. We'll see how he does now that he has one.
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I get that people hate Grossi. I do, too. But, he posted a quote from Williams. What the hell is wrong w/that?
I think the quote is fairly significant. Much more so than just dismissing it and blaming the messenger.
Do you think it's a good idea to not even speak to your new head coach about who is going to become the offensive coordinator?
My only issue with it (other than Grossi being a boob), is that I get the feeling there's a little more to the story that probably didn't make it to print. I highly doubt, even in this ridiculous environment, that Williams didn't at least have some input to his OC. No evidence, just a feeling. I don't everything Williams says at face value, btw. He did say he had all these HC offers prior to coming here.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Maybe he will give Baker the power to audible something he clearly did not have under Haley. I can't remember once hearing "KILL" KILL not that it matters.
Anyways one of the many gifts that Baker possesses is the Knowledge of the game of football. I want him to have the ability to switch to a pass play when teams are showing 9 in the box! Like we see so many times and then we run it inside the Tackles not having a chance to gain more than a couple if any!
In Oklahoma Baker had that power and used it frequently. We don't need an ego guy like Haley. Who made excuses to the media that he was LIMITED in his play calling due to a rookie QB...I say BS to the nth degree!
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I am at a point where it seems that there is always dysfunction in the building under the guidance of Jimmy Haslam. Think about how many times we have heard about dysfunction since he has taken over. There has been rifts involving Holmgren, Banner, Lombardi, Chud, Farmer, Shanny, Pet, Hue, Sahsi, Wylie, and Haley.
There has been a few constants. Jimmy Haslam has been in charge. The team continues to lose. Guys get fired.
I really thought we were headed in the right direction, but after watching Monday's press conference, I'm back to feeling that we have miles and miles to go.
Hopefully, I am wrong. Hopefully, all those posters who said it was Hue's fault are right and this team starts playing up to their high expectations.
I am unsure why Saunders wasn't looked at, if he wasn't.
Early reports on Monday were that Saunders was going to be the interim HC. Then it was announced that Williams would be. This is purely speculation, but it's possible that Saunders declined all offers. At his age, he might have no interest in that level of stress and scrutiny.
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I am unsure why Saunders wasn't looked at, if he wasn't.
Early reports on Monday were that Saunders was going to be the interim HC. Then it was announced that Williams would be. This is purely speculation, but it's possible that Saunders declined all offers. At his age, he might have no interest in that level of stress and scrutiny.
It's very possible. Also since he coaches the WRs and realizes we don't have but one WR that he doesn't want the hot steamy mess to come being attached to his legacy.
Williams probably didn't have a choice either. TAG YOUR IT. Sucks to be a Browns coach that is for sure lol
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I get that people hate Grossi. I do, too. But, he posted a quote from Williams. What the hell is wrong w/that?
I think the quote is fairly significant. Much more so than just dismissing it and blaming the messenger.
Do you think it's a good idea to not even speak to your new head coach about who is going to become the offensive coordinator?
Tony Grossi cherry picks all things negative, or things that aren't negative, but could sound negative when isolated from the rest of the conversation.
I guess I'm just used to him trying to provoke with every tweet. To me this reads, "I have no idea why they chose Kitchens, wouldn't have been my choice!"
Do I think it's a good idea to not even speak to your new head coach about who is going to become the offensive coordinator? Absolutely not. That's what the PC was for. Nobody was relying on Tony to ask the question, it was already asked and answered. Pulling out one sentence from a 20 minute PC and tweeting it with tongue in cheek... business as usual for Grossi - that's all. Again, the context was the timeline from Gregg's POV, it reads like an indictment of Kitchens.
i just really like this guy. i dunno why either. he just seems so genuine.
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Freddie Kitchens not planning offensive overhaul as Browns new OC Duke Johnson Jr., Nick Chubb excited to see Kitchens get chance to call plays
DARYL RUITER NOVEMBER 01, 2018 - 4:07 PM Freddie Kitchens Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator Daryl Ruiter-92.3 The Fan
CATEGORIES: NFL Browns Berea, OH (92.3 The Fan) – Don’t expect to witness a massive offensive overhaul Sunday when the Browns host the Chiefs under new offensive coordinator Freddie Kitchens.
Kitchens isn’t changing the system installed by Todd Haley, which he learned under Bruce Arians in Arizona mostly because there’s just no time.
“We’re not changing systems,” Kitchens said. “Nothing’s going to change from that standpoint. What I hope we do and are able to accomplish is we are able to execute better. Do the things the way we’re supposed to do them, how we’re supposed to do them, and when we’re supposed to do them.”
Under Arians, Kitchens was the Cardinals' tight ends coach from 2007-2012, quarterbacks coach from 2013-16 and running backs coach in 2017.
New interim head coach Gregg Williams downplayed the significance of Kitchens calling plays for the first time.
“Calling plays is not that hard,” Williams said. “Executing plays is hard.”
Kitchens didn't disagree. He thinks too much stock gets placed on the difference a coaching staff makes on game days, especially when it comes to play calling.
“Calling plays, they could make a play caller look great if they execute,” Kitchens said. “I fully expect them to make me look great. It is not the other way around. I do not know where we get this preconceived notion that it is the other way around.
“The players play the game. Coaches coach. Coaches coach during the course of the week to get them better and to prepare them for what is going to show up on Sunday. Then, it is time for them to go play the game.”
Kitchens got to call plays for the fourth preseason game at Detroit that saw the Browns score on drives of 80, 59 and 69 yards on Baker Mayfield’s first three possessions. It was a first for him and quality entertainment for running back Duke Johnson Jr.
“Duke probably got a kick out of it because I put him in charge of substitutions because he did not play that game,” Kitchens said. “Duke likes to think that he is a coach sometimes. Those guys are good in that room. The running backs are a good group of guys. We have good guys here on this team that want to work hard and want to compete every day.
“We as coaches, have to continue to want to put them in the right situations and continue to build their growth, execution and understanding of what we are trying to get done.”
After weeks of criticism over the use of the running backs – mostly Johnson – it is widely assumed Kitchens will lean on his backs, who are excited for Kitchens’ new role, this week.
“He’s a very good dude, and a very good guy,” Johnson said. “We appreciate him in the running back room. We’re going to fight for him. We’re going to do everything we can to help his offense come alive.”
“He’s going to do a great job,” rookie running back Nick Chubb said. “He’s going to call the right plays, it’s on us to execute it.”
How much impact will Kitchens be able to make offensively in less than one week on the job as offensive coordinator?
“You got a ticket to the game?” receiver Jarvis Landry said. “You’ll see. We’ll see. Then you’ll see.”
The 3 most important things we learned from Kitchens’ first presser Thursday:
1. Arians owes him money from golfing and he plans to collect this weekend when Arians calls Sunday’s game for CBS.
2. When asked what he learned from Arians in his time working under him in Arizona he replied, “um, how to make a cocktail.”
3. Unlike his new boss, Kitchens put rumors of being in demand to bed. “One other thing, I thought this was going to come up, but it didn’t come up and I want to address it, alright: I have not been offered any head coaching jobs, alright.”
NOTESFreddie Kitchens shows sense of humor, excitement for opportunity as offensive coordinatorby Scott Petrak November 1, 2018
BEREA — If Freddie Kitchens calls plays as well as he spits out one-liners, the Browns just might be able to keep up with the high-scoring Chiefs on Sunday.
“I thought this was going to come up, but it didn’t come up and I want to address it,” he said Thursday to end his first news conference as offensive coordinator. “I have not been offered any head coaching jobs.”
The jab was directed at interim coach Gregg Williams, who boasted Wednesday of 11 requests to interview for head coaching jobs since 2003, including four that only required him to say yes. He didn’t take any of them.
Williams hesitated before accepting interim job.
ADVERTISEMENT Kitchens was promoted from associate head coach/running backs coach to coordinator Monday after coach Hue Jackson and coordinator Todd Haley were fired after a period of “internal discord.” Kitchens’ only play-calling experience in his 20-year coaching career was in the preseason finale, a 35-17 win at Detroit, but he’ll be at the controls Sunday when the Browns (2-5-1) host the Chiefs (7-1).
He was Mr. Football in Alabama then started for three years at the University of Alabama (1995-97). He played and coached under former Browns coordinator and Cardinals coach Bruce Arians and was asked what he learned.
“How to make a cocktail?” Kitchens said of Arians, who will be a television analyst for the game Sunday. “I think he owes me some money from the last time we played golf, so that is good.”
Kitchens has coached tight ends, quarterbacks and running backs since entering the NFL in 2006 with the goal of becoming a coordinator. He got his chance when owner Jimmy Haslam and general manager John Dorsey picked him to replace Haley.
“I am very excited about the opportunity,” he said. “I have always wanted the opportunity, but not under these circumstances. I am here to do a job and I am going to do the job.”
Kitchens had worked with Haley before and was brought here by him. Kitchens was adamant the offensive system won’t change but wants the execution to improve.
He said he was just happy in the preseason finale to get the play in and avoid a delay penalty or taking a timeout. His expectations are exponentially higher going into a matchup with a Chiefs offense that leads the league with 36.2 points a game. The Browns are 24th at 21.1.
“I have always viewed plays as do your work during the week — it is a lot like a player — then it becomes easier on gameday,” he said. “You have to somehow take all of the emotion out of it and then just call the plays and know what you have worked on. Know what looks good, know what the players’ comfort level is.
“They could make a play caller look great if they execute. I fully expect them to make me look great. It is not the other way around. I do not know where we get this preconceived notion that it is the other way around.”
Williams spoke before Kitchens, so he didn’t have a chance to respond to the shot. He did say Kitchens “has done great,” before weighing in on play calling.
“Calling plays is not that hard,” he said. “Executing plays is hard.
“The players have really practiced well on that side of the ball. They are paying attention to him, and it has been pretty fun.”
Health scare helped strengthen Freddie Kitchens' attitude, approach 6:54 PM ET Pat McManamon ESPN Staff Writer
BEREA, Ohio -- Freddie Kitchens played quarterback for Alabama and was part of a staff in Arizona that almost won a Super Bowl.
He coached for Bill Parcells and Bruce Arians in the NFL.
But ask Kitchens what he enjoys and he’ll bring up things like sunsets and time with family.
At his initial press conference as the Browns offensive coordinator, Kitchens also brought a healthy dose of self-deprecating humor.
Take his walk-off line, which he made a point to say he wanted to make clear.
"I have not been offered any head coaching jobs," said Kitchens -- a barb to Gregg Williams saying he has interviewed for 11 coaching jobs since he was coach in Buffalo, four of which he could have just shown up and taken.
Asked what he learned from Arians, Kitchens briefly thought and said: "How to make a cocktail."
Told Arians would be broadcasting the game for CBS, Kitchens didn’t hesitate: "Good, I think he owes me some money (from the) last time we played golf."
Arians did not dispute the former, but told about the latter, he merely said: "I doubt that."
Freddie Kitchens is "one of those guys that whoever meets him just falls in love with the guy," says Carson Palmer. Charles LeClaire/USA TODAY Sports However, Arians spoke glowingly of Kitchens, who got his first job with Parcells in Dallas, then went to Arizona to work with offensive coordinator Todd Haley, then stayed with the Cardinals to work for Arians.
Arians, now retired, said he has zero hesitation about Kitchens stepping into the play-calling role, and doing it well.
"He’s smart and he’s tough," Arians said. "He will have no problem."
The respect for Kitchens around the league seems shared.
"Freddie’s one of my favorite people on the planet," former Cardinals quarterback Carson Palmer told NFL Films. "He’s one of those guys that whoever meets him just falls in love with the guy. He’s genuine, he’s honest. You talk to him for five minutes and you walk away going, ‘Man that’s a good dude.’"
Kitchens’ attitude was not shaped by a life-and-death experience he had five years ago; it was merely strengthened.
In June of 2013 Kitchens was walking on the field for OTAs in Arizona when he felt something in his chest. Palmer and Drew Stanton (now with the Browns) called the trainers over when Kitchens complained of being dizzy. The trainer discovered Kitchens’ heart rate and blood pressure were low.
He was immediately taken to the emergency room, where tests showed he had a tear in the inner wall of his aorta -- in medical terms an ascending aortic dissection. Kitchens was alive because the aorta had not ruptured, but doctors told him he had a 20 percent chance to live and needed immediate surgery.
He was flown to a Phoenix hospital, but on the helicopter, Kitchens thought of his daughters (Bennett and Camden) and how they had once wondered to him what it was like to fly on a helicopter. While in the air, he started taking photos, figuring no matter what happened to him his daughters could see the pictures. As Palmer told NFL Films, Kitchens was "thinking of everybody before himself."
The surgery lasted 10 hours, and included placing a mechanical valve in his heart. He was on the field for training camp a few months later.
Thursday Kitchens reflected on it all.
"I think I was always a person that enjoyed life, and enjoyed the finer things of life," he said. "I enjoyed the things that sometimes get overlooked, you know? So I always appreciated those things.
"I would say that the thing that I realized the most is the impact that you have, as far as me, on other people. And I feel like I’ve had a positive impact on other people because of the notes, the well-wishes, people you may not have heard from in 10 years.
"It’s amazing what people will tell you how they feel about you when they think you’re going to die."
I just hope he uses the talent he has at hand. The only knock I had on Haley, was IMO, he was stubborn. They kept DeValve for a reason, and when in the game, albeit very little, he produced. I hope Kitchens uses him more. He gets open and catches the ball. The other is Duke. I really feel Haley was set in his ways as to how to use his RBs. He seemed to like to ride one guy.I don't know what will change, but better use of Duke and Seth will make me happy.
I was going to post my thoughts too ... seems like a good guy honestly. Like his demeanor. Not sure if he'll be a good OC, but we can't get worse can we?
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I was going to post my thoughts too ... seems like a good guy honestly. Like his demeanor. Not sure if he'll be a good OC, but we can't get worse can we?
Todd Haley was not doing a great job. His offense lacked innovation and he wasn't utilizing the whole roster. My fear is that we just get more of the same Kitchens.
Man, I hope they shock the world and win a few games. Cause I like kitchens, a lot. I would love to be able to have an excuse to keep him here if he does a great job.
Ill tell you what, if we score a TD in the first Q, I bet you a heck of a lot of people are going to be jumping up and down!
I thought the tradition of birthday spankings ended ... silly me.
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This is a great opportunity for Kitchens. A chance to call plays as well as getting experience as a coordinator. If the offense and Mayfield show enough improvement in the last 8 games Kitchen could get a full time OC job with some team. Possibly the Browns.
I just want a winner. We need players who can be part of the solution not part of the problem.
When I heard we hired TH as our OC I was excited. He had a good reputation and I figured he would do well here. After seeing what went on in his tenure here I was, as many of us are, very disappointed. Could it be he is overrated? He sure didn't seem to game plan to our players strengths.
Well, there was at least one person who wasn't too thrilled w/the hire and said that having Ben, Bell, Brown, and perhaps the best OL in football kinda skews things. That same person also said that he preferred Hue's offense over Haley's.
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